Re: Does the asities make your liver hurt more?

February 3, 2010

Debbie,

I never did have alot of liver pain so I couldn't answer that one. I

just have the occasional spasm.

> I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's

> definitely causing the pain in my left side right along with the

> shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure I have an ulcer which I know they

> can give medication for but does the asitities (sic) press on the

> liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

>

February 4, 2010

Hi Debbie,

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Yes, it can. When my husband's ascites got really bad and before he began taking

his diuretics, he would hold his hand over his liver and kind of push it a bit -

most of the time without realizing he was doing it - because he was in pain.

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And yes, if you are having pains on your left side, chances are it is an

enlarged spleen. My hsband has this as well. However, when his ascites is under

control with his meds, he doesn't hurt but occasionally (both his spleen and

liver...).

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Kerri

--Independent legal, business, and medical transciptionist

kerriaz@...

Subject: Does the asities make your liver hurt more?

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

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I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's definitely causing

the pain in my left side right along with the shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure

I have an ulcer which I know they can give medication for but does the asitities

(sic) press on the liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

February 4, 2010

Thanks Kerri. From what I've read and from what everyone has said I do believe

this is what's going on. I have trouble breathing as well and it always feels as

if I've just eaten a huge meal when in fact about the only thing I can handle is

a piece of toast. The trouble is trying to get the gastro that I see to do

anything. I can't seem to make him understand how sick I feel. I think really

that he wrote me off the very first time I saw him and told him that I'd never

be doing tx. I hope your husband is feeling better. What meds are they giving

him?...Debbie

>

> Subject: Does the asities make your liver hurt more?

> To: livercirrhosissupport

> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

>

> Â

>

> I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's definitely causing

the pain in my left side right along with the shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure

I have an ulcer which I know they can give medication for but does the asitities

(sic) press on the liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

>

February 4, 2010

Debbie,

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You're welcome. Yes, that sounds exactly right. It trulyÂ is like being very

pregnant with the ascites. The liquid pushes your organs around causing less

room making it hard to breath and hard to eat more than just a little bit at a

time. My husband went through all of this before he got on his meds. He takes 2

diuretics - Lasix (80 mg) and Aldactone (200 mg). How bloated are you? Are your

feet and legs swollen? I say go make an appointment and just have him check you

out. Is there any way you can get a new doctor? One that will help a bit more?

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Kerri

--Independent legal, business, and medical transciptionistkerriaz@...

Subject: Re: Does the asities make your liver hurt

more?

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 10:30 AM

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Thanks Kerri. From what I've read and from what everyone has said I do believe

this is what's going on. I have trouble breathing as well and it always feels as

if I've just eaten a huge meal when in fact about the only thing I can handle is

a piece of toast. The trouble is trying to get the gastro that I see to do

anything. I can't seem to make him understand how sick I feel. I think really

that he wrote me off the very first time I saw him and told him that I'd never

be doing tx. I hope your husband is feeling better. What meds are they giving

him?...Debbie

>

> From: drgonflyblue <pita54me@.. .>

> Subject: Does the asities make your liver hurt more?

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's definitely causing

the pain in my left side right along with the shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure

I have an ulcer which I know they can give medication for but does the asitities

(sic) press on the liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

>

February 4, 2010

Debbie,

Your nutrition is sooooo important with this disease. Be sure your

getting adequate nutrients....I'd be talking to your doctor about this

too. Maybe try some of that Ensure? Don't mean to sound like your

mother but I think part of the reason I blew up was also from

malnutrition because I wasn't eating much. My appetite isn't that

great some days but I know I have to eat something good for me plus I

get really shaky if I don't. Keep fresh fruit around and be sure and

take vitamins. Just a pot of soup is great when you can't eat much.

I hope you get to feeling better soon and let us know what the doctor

says.

Roni

> Thanks Kerri. From what I've read and from what everyone has said I

> do believe this is what's going on. I have trouble breathing as well

> and it always feels as if I've just eaten a huge meal when in fact

> about the only thing I can handle is a piece of toast. The trouble

> is trying to get the gastro that I see to do anything. I can't seem

> to make him understand how sick I feel. I think really that he wrote

> me off the very first time I saw him and told him that I'd never be

> doing tx. I hope your husband is feeling better. What meds are they

> giving him?...Debbie

>

> >

> > Subject: Does the asities make your

> liver hurt more?

> > To: livercirrhosissupport

> > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

> >

> > Â

> >

> > I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's

> definitely causing the pain in my left side right along with the

> shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure I have an ulcer which I know they

> can give medication for but does the asitities (sic) press on the

> liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

> >

February 4, 2010

I know Roni. I once read " let your food be your medicine and your medicine be

your food " and I think that's true to a large extent. For the past month my

appetite has just vanished and yet I don't lose any weight. The soup sounds good

and in fact I found a liver healthy soup recipe the other day on WEBMD that I'm

going to make. I got a break today for a change. In Florida there is some kind

of program called Healthier Florida. Apparently it's funded by Medicaid

insurance that I have and is for people who have serious , chronic illness. I

received the packet today in the mail. They work with you in educating and

advocating for you. There is a number where I can call and talk to a Registered

Nurse 24/7 ! I called right after getting it and the nurse triaged me over the

phone and told me to call my gastro and tell him that based on their decision

that he should see me in his office within the next 3 hrs. and if not for me to

call her back and they would make record of it and she would advise me from

there. I called the gastro and his office tried to deny that I had called on

Mon. & Wed. practically begging for help and that they said the doctor said he

would ok the CT scan without having to drink the chalk but that he DIDN'T say

that was all he could do for me. It was definitly not the truth and that's

exactly what they told me. Ended up that he supposedly won't be back in the

office till next Tues. but that if I felt that bad to go to the ER. It's not as

bad as it's been so I'm going to hold out till tomorrow. I have to see my PCP

each month to get my prescription of Xanax and that's all he's good for because

he's almost a total idiot and doesn't have hospital priveledges ANYWHERE which

to me speaks volumes about him in itself. Thanks for letting me ramble...Take

care, Debbie

> > >

> > > From: drgonflyblue <pita54me@>

> > > Subject: Does the asities make your

> > liver hurt more?

> > > To: livercirrhosissupport

> > > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's

> > definitely causing the pain in my left side right along with the

> > shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure I have an ulcer which I know they

> > can give medication for but does the asitities (sic) press on the

> > liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

> > >

February 4, 2010

Debbie,

I just can't believe these doctors! I really like my PCP and my

gastro.....last time I went I didn't have to pay my pcp because I was

laid off and don't have insurance anymore. He gave me numbers to call

to help with my labs....etc. I've applied for disability so I'm

waiting to hear on that. I really hope you find some better doctors

that care about you. Sometimes asking nurses for referals helps

because they know the good ones.

Roni

> I know Roni. I once read " let your food be your medicine and your

> medicine be your food " and I think that's true to a large extent.

> For the past month my appetite has just vanished and yet I don't

> lose any weight. The soup sounds good and in fact I found a liver

> healthy soup recipe the other day on WEBMD that I'm going to make. I

> got a break today for a change. In Florida there is some kind of

> program called Healthier Florida. Apparently it's funded by Medicaid

> insurance that I have and is for people who have serious , chronic

> illness. I received the packet today in the mail. They work with you

> in educating and advocating for you. There is a number where I can

> call and talk to a Registered Nurse 24/7 ! I called right after

> getting it and the nurse triaged me over the phone and told me to

> call my gastro and tell him that based on their decision that he

> should see me in his office within the next 3 hrs. and if not for me

> to call her back and they would make record of it and she would

> advise me from there. I called the gastro and his office tried to

> deny that I had called on Mon. & Wed. practically begging for help

> and that they said the doctor said he would ok the CT scan without

> having to drink the chalk but that he DIDN'T say that was all he

> could do for me. It was definitly not the truth and that's exactly

> what they told me. Ended up that he supposedly won't be back in the

> office till next Tues. but that if I felt that bad to go to the ER.

> It's not as bad as it's been so I'm going to hold out till tomorrow.

> I have to see my PCP each month to get my prescription of Xanax and

> that's all he's good for because he's almost a total idiot and

> doesn't have hospital priveledges ANYWHERE which to me speaks

> volumes about him in itself. Thanks for letting me ramble...Take

> care, Debbie

>

> > > >

> > > > From: drgonflyblue <pita54me@>

> > > > Subject: Does the asities make your

> > > liver hurt more?

> > > > To: livercirrhosissupport

> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's

> > > definitely causing the pain in my left side right along with the

> > > shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure I have an ulcer which I know

> they

> > > can give medication for but does the asitities (sic) press on the

> > > liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

> > > >

February 4, 2010

Debbie

I asked my GP about 1-1/2 years ago when she thought I'd finally deliver this

baby (my belly was soooo extended). However, I don't eat very much either and

don't have ascites.

You know, there is really no purpose to seeing a Gastro if you flatly refuse

treatment. Your regular Dr. can read your blood work just as well as an

expensive Gastro. There is very very little that the Gastro can do for you

after refusing treatment.

Gloria

________________________________

Thanks Kerri. From what I've read and from what everyone has said I do believe

this is what's going on. I have trouble breathing as well and it always feels as

if I've just eaten a huge meal when in fact about the only thing I can handle is

a piece of toast. The trouble is trying to get the gastro that I see to do

anything. I can't seem to make him understand how sick I feel. I think really

that he wrote me off the very first time I saw him and told him that I'd never

be doing tx. I hope your husband is feeling better. What meds are they giving

him?...Debbie

>

> From: drgonflyblue <pita54me@.. .>

> Subject: Does the asities make your liver hurt more?

> To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 11:29 AM

>

> Ã‚

>

> I read earlier about an enlarged spleen and I think that's definitely causing

the pain in my left side right along with the shoulder pain and I'm pretty sure

I have an ulcer which I know they can give medication for but does the asitities

(sic) press on the liver and make it hurt more?...Debbie

>

February 4, 2010

Roni

I've heard of all these people that juice their veggies etc. and it looked like

work to me. Then a gal friend was juicing when I was there for a couple of

nights. I was able to see how extremely easy it really is!!

Now with the cancer diagnosis, I'm planning to buy one tomorrow and get right

into it.... With both veggies and fruit!! I had quit taking vitamins and

supplements back when I did my first treatment, as I could stand the thought of

any more pills. Still can't!! So, I'm sure hoping this juicing will make it a

whole lot easier to get all those nutrients etc. right from the veggie.