Re: language, meeting with the teachers, and misc issues

[Guest guest]

Thea,

I totally agree with you. I have NEVER met a speech path who advocated asking

questions. I've always been told to avoid them unless we are sitting down in a

'formal' setting *working on* questions.

For example, every so often Kara and I will sit down with and a bunch of

pictures and ask specific questions, helping him to form the right answers.

It's an intense work period specifically devoted to that -- and then it's set

aside.

I wish I had something printed with which to back this up that you could show

them. I thought it was just common knowledge! Geez!

How do you plan on dealing with it?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Jacquie,

That's great that Kara does this with . My 's home worker is

using the pictures that I took from the digital to get him to

conversate and answer some more complex quesions. She is really into

it and totally agrees with me. It is common knowledge that not

asking questions is good for spontaneous language, but, its an ABA

school that has very unimaginative people, so they continue to use

this format outside of intense sessions. There is a paragraph in, as

a matter of fact, an old ABA manuel that I have, that specifically

states that " one must reduce asking questions to promote language " .

I also plan to have this written into his IEP, so that they stop

asking these questions.

Thea

> Thea,

>

> I totally agree with you. I have NEVER met a speech path who

advocated asking questions. I've always been told to avoid them

unless we are sitting down in a 'formal' setting *working on*

questions.

>

> For example, every so often Kara and I will sit down with and

a bunch of pictures and ask specific questions, helping him to form

the right answers. It's an intense work period specifically devoted

to that -- and then it's set aside.

>

> I wish I had something printed with which to back this up that you

could show them. I thought it was just common knowledge! Geez!

>

> How do you plan on dealing with it?

>

> Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Thea,

I'm right there with you on this one! is good at answering basic

questions, just don't expect him to go any further than the most obvious

answer, he can't. He's extremely verbal. If you just met him, you'd never

suspect he has any problems. If you watch and listen, you start to see it

come out. This is why we are having so much trouble getting the school to

do speech. The ST is observing him right now before she makes her decision.

I just hope she watches him for long enough....

Sue

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[Guest guest]

Thea -

It's very disconserting when teachers and therapists " don't get it " .

I totally understand. To them, it's a bonus when the child does

things in a NT sort of way, when really they don't understand what is

behind it, ie; being prompted to speak when given a question.

I think you should do whatever it takes, tactfully, to try and make

them understand. IMHO, Most school Speech Therapists don't

understand Autism just like most teacher's don't. That's not to say

that they aren't good therapists, they just don't get Autism.

Anyway, I'm rambling...but just wanted you to know that I understand

and can relate.

Penny :-)

[Guest guest]

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Penny,

Well it's an Autism speciality school, so they should know about

autistm, but, its ABA and they know about in a " narrow " way not to

say all ABA schools do, this is a particularly narrow one. I think

that your right about the question thing; they get surprised when

they can answer or respond without an M @ M waved in front of them. I

plan to copy the section of my book (an ABA manuel as a matter of

fact), where it says " minimize direct questions " such as " what do you

want " , what is this called " , etc. I also plan to bring his evals

from preschool where it states that he mastered all the goals at 3

and 4 years of age that they claim he didnt at the age of 6, and put

into his IEP. Since the new teacher is a really nice person, I will

try to be tactful.

Thea

- In parenting_autism@y..., nospam@p... wrote:

> Thea -

>

> It's very disconserting when teachers and therapists " don't get

it " .

> I totally understand. To them, it's a bonus when the child does

> things in a NT sort of way, when really they don't understand what

is

> behind it, ie; being prompted to speak when given a question.

>

> I think you should do whatever it takes, tactfully, to try and make

> them understand. IMHO, Most school Speech Therapists don't

> understand Autism just like most teacher's don't. That's not to say

> that they aren't good therapists, they just don't get Autism.

>

> Anyway, I'm rambling...but just wanted you to know that I

understand

> and can relate.

>

> Penny :-)