Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Okay, guys... a few things... 1) Shoes- this is probably the reason for why you have both shin and back pain. Shoes are everything, and it is NOT as simple as Nike vs. Asics vs. Mizuno. It depends on how you move. Most people overpronate; this means as they run their foot rolls from the outside to the inside. This, you need a more stable shoe than someone like me... who tends to run on the outside of their feet ONLY. Your weight also determines what shoe is best for you. I would recommend going to Runnersworld.com and using their shoe finder to find the right shoe for YOU. I wouldn't ever buy a shoe from anywhere EXCEPT sporting goods stores (Galyan's which is now Dick's around here, or REI or similar) and it isn't because I am a snob but rather because they have sales people who know what they are talking about (usually). And... they let you do " test runs " around in the store to see if you like the feel. Avoid the discount stores unless you know EXACTLY what brand and model you need. 2) People do not run the same outside as they do on a treadmill. I for one have a longer stride outside... and the OTHER thing that I do differently is I tend to run FASTER than on a treadmill, causing that early windedness. What can you do about this? Try running slower when you start out; try running at a ridiculously slow-seeming pace. Or... measure out a mile.. and try to run it in no LESS than 10 min. or whatever feels comfortable. As far as your back hurting; also... try smiling when you run. This sounds idiotic, but... relaxing your jaw helps relax your shoulders helps relax your back... and on down the line. I read an article ... I think it was Men's Health actually... all about the fact that most people encounter back pain because they are running tense. Smiling/throwing a giggle out... relaxes your muscles. That, and BAD SHOES can cause you to run tense (see below). Also, there is a thing called treppe syndrome; you've probably encountered it other places, but... what it boils down to is that if you can blast through those first minutes when you have used up your body's stored energy... just push through it a little longer.. your body will start to get into a " groove " and you will suddenly feel better. The biggest thing I think are shoes; if you feel pain, you will NOT be moving right, and that will wear you out faster. Hope that helps! -Lianne > ditto > > Brett (listening) > (my triathlete chiropractor neighbor recommended Asics running shoes in > the $80 range) > > Runners > > > > Question.. > > I am taking up running. Slow to start.. I can only > get about 1/2 a mile without > A. being winded > B. lower back pain > C. jabbing shin pain like im being stabbed. (Not shin > splints the day after, this is DURING the running). > > I just bought new Nike running shoes (they say they > are running shoes, how is one to tell?) > > So questions.. > A...How long can I expect to be winded so quickly? > When will I see an increase in stamina? > > B. the lower back (upper glute? right side only..) > pain. > Will stretching help? Lower back extentions? Crunches? > Spandex belly velcro tummy holder in thingy.. (I dont > know what its called).. " Core " exercises? All of the > above? Opinions? > C. This feels like bone stress pain.. not muscular. I > know there are some tendons and stuff on the front of > the tibia, but it doesn't hurt the next day. And it > doesn't hurt on treadmills, or ellipticals in the > gym.. only when im pounding pavement. > > Thanks! > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 You're welcome. I should have proofread before I hit " send " because the grammar sucks...LOL. -Lianne > Awesome, thanks! > > Brett > > Re: Runners > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 me no care bout grammer. me gets the jist. And thank you as well. MORE MORE MORE. (Who is starting with a trainer tonight, and will get my measurements, etc etc tonight). --- skibum49913 wrote: > > You're welcome. I should have proofread before I > hit " send " because > the grammar sucks...LOL. > > -Lianne > > > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > Brett > > > > Re: Runners > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Great advice. I'll second the reommendation to go to a real running shoe store to buy your shoes for the first time. They can do some tests to determine what shoes are right for you. There are some great books on running too that you might want to check out in your library for more tips. Andy > > > Okay, guys... a few things... > > 1) Shoes- this is probably the reason for why you have both shin and > back pain. Shoes are everything, and it is NOT as simple as Nike vs. > Asics vs. Mizuno. It depends on how you move. Most people > overpronate; this means as they run their foot rolls from the outside > to the inside. This, you need a more stable shoe than someone like > me... who tends to run on the outside of their feet ONLY. Your > weight also determines what shoe is best for you. I would recommend > going to Runnersworld.com and using their shoe finder to find the > right shoe for YOU. I wouldn't ever buy a shoe from anywhere EXCEPT > sporting goods stores (Galyan's which is now Dick's around here, or > REI or similar) and it isn't because I am a snob but rather because > they have sales people who know what they are talking about > (usually). And... they let you do " test runs " around in the store to > see if you like the feel. Avoid the discount stores unless you know > EXACTLY what brand and model you need. > > 2) People do not run the same outside as they do on a treadmill. I > for one have a longer stride outside... and the OTHER thing that I do > differently is I tend to run FASTER than on a treadmill, causing that > early windedness. What can you do about this? Try running slower > when you start out; try running at a ridiculously slow-seeming pace. > Or... measure out a mile.. and try to run it in no LESS than 10 min. > or whatever feels comfortable. > > As far as your back hurting; also... try smiling when you run. This > sounds idiotic, but... relaxing your jaw helps relax your shoulders > helps relax your back... and on down the line. I read an article ... > I think it was Men's Health actually... all about the fact that most > people encounter back pain because they are running tense. > Smiling/throwing a giggle out... relaxes your muscles. That, and BAD > SHOES can cause you to run tense (see below). > > Also, there is a thing called treppe syndrome; you've probably > encountered it other places, but... what it boils down to is that if > you can blast through those first minutes when you have used up your > body's stored energy... just push through it a little longer.. your > body will start to get into a " groove " and you will suddenly feel > better. > > The biggest thing I think are shoes; if you feel pain, you will NOT > be moving right, and that will wear you out faster. > > Hope that helps! > > -Lianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 , Sorry about the delayed response, but I've wanted to think about this just a little. I don't think I have an answer for you, but rather another twist in the mix. ...And maybe further questions. I'm NOT a runner, but I HAVE had premature pain and weakness issues with any kind of pounding stress on my knees or ankles. I have been a pretty big boy most of my life and have damaged my knees and ankles as a result of both weight and careless actions and /or accidents. I have a little bit of a reverse action happening to me as far as working out versus real life. Running pretty much wipes me out with pain whether it be on a treadmill or on the pavement. When using the treadmill, I can only walk at a fast pace with uphill resistance for about an hour and will then have tremendous joint pain for several days thereafter. If I walk in " real life " circumstances, like: around the block, around the airport, shopping centers, etc. I can do this for longer period without the longer term pain associated with the walking. ...Though, it is possible that the resistance / intensity is not nearly the same. I also take the steps at airports and when possible in office buildings, yet even when using a combined stepper / elliptical last week, I had knee and ankle pain for days. When I did that, I was having so much pain that I had to stop after only 32 minutes. ...And I don't really know why? I am a little confused as to why this happens, at least to the level of intense pain that I have. I am able to perform on the cycle for an hour or more, mixing HIIT and moderate intensity pace and resistance. I am also able to full squat a pretty significant amount of weight and then use even more for my calf workout. I can do this without noticing any joint pain, whatsoever. ...Again, I don't really know why? Can I have an allergy to exercise??? O'Connell wrote: > What is funny, I can run for about 35 min on a tread > mill, and do the elliptical thing for the same amount > of time, get my heartbeat up to 155-165 for about 20 > of those minutes, sweat my butt off, and finish not > TOO winded, but I can't run on pavement for more than > 5 minute spurts without feeling like im gonna > collapse. Also, walking up 3 flights of stairs winds > me beyond belief. What is so different about indoor > treadmills and elliptical things from pavement, and > real life situations? > > -- Remember... Progress, not perfection! -- Holowko, CPA, CCP PO Box 444 Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-0444 -- E-mailto:gholowko@... -- Telephone: Facsimile: -- Featuring Magic Software -- Developer tools for wise business solutions! -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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