OT:calcium, etc. supplements without magnesium

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If you have a FIR sauna, you can apply it and then sit in the sauna.

deb

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I have found that to NOT give your body the things it needs, like

> > magnesium

> > > is not recommended. This also according to my Lyme doc - just saw her

> > > yesterday. You need to give your body as much support as you can to try

> > to

> > > overcome the infections. You can NOT deprive the 'bug' of the nutrients

> > it

> > > needs to survive without possibly causing serious harm to your own body.

> > > So, deprivation does not seem the way to go.

> > >

> > > Rather, I was told to try to focus on getting my body as strong as

> > possible

> > > to fight the infection and detox as there are over 150 neurotoxins that

> > > are released, whether they are going through a 'killing phase' (herx) or

> > not.

> > > They are constantly releasing those toxins.

> > >

> > > Very important to get those out of the body in such a manner as not to

> > > stress the body. As she said, don't let the sewers get clogged. As the

> > toxin

> > > elimination systems in our bodies are just that, like the sewers of a

> > big

> > > city. But, too heavy of detoxing, or using less than ideal methods of

> > > detoxing can be bad too. We all are walking a fine line on this

> > infection.

> > > To fight it strongly enough to win without causing any permanent damage

> > to

> > > any parts of our body is a tall order, but can be done if we are careful

> > and

> > > continuously 'hammer' that 'bug' every time it comes out.

> > >

> > > But, please do NOT take this as medical advice, as I am no doctor and

> > not

> > > qualified to give that. Just, relaying what I have been told by what I

> > > consider a reliable source - my Lyme doc - who is also a 'wellness' doc.

> > >

> > > JimT

> > >

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> > > ----------------------------

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 11/4/2011 11:40:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > steppingstone3@ writes:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:

> > > Does anyone know of any calcium or multi-vitamin/mineral or plain

> > > multi-vitamin or plain multi-mineral supplements (that are food-based

> > and not

> > > synthetic-based) that do not have any magnesium in them - since those

> > with Lyme

> > > Disease are not supposed to take oral magnesium supplements because of

> > them

> > > causing bio-films over the Lyme Disease bacterium? I am especially

> > wanting

> > > a multi-mineral supplement but is there such a one without any magnesium?

> > > Thank you.

> > > P.S. Is it okay to eat foods that have magnesium in them for those with

> > > Lyme Disease?

> > > Sincerely, in Christ Jesus the Lord,

> > > member

> > >

> >

>

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I don't know about the biofilm issue, (and would like to know more about it) but I did read (please don't ask me where, I've slept since then) that trans-dermal magnesium also brings up the natural DHEA levels. I also benefit from the sulfur I get when using Epsom salts.

I do know regarding the DHEA part of the magnesium question, that these soaks really keep my husband " young " feeling, if you know what I mean. I would say it's possibly the only 'real' aphrodisiac in existence with no side effects.

So trans-dermal magnesium gets my vote, even though its a pain to get in there and soak as often as I need to.The weather is here, wish you were lovely,LoveRobin Little

I'm curious, can I ask where you got the info that taking it orally will help the biofilm manifest or strengthen, but taking it  transdermally will not? Not that I question that, I would just like to learn more about it. ...I mean, in my uneducated and sometimes illogical mind, magnesium, once broken down orally to it's 'digestible' form it, then gets absorbed into the blood. Wouldn't the results be the same if taken transdermally? Except maybe taking it transdermally may allow much higher levels in the blood, and

might be required for those with digestive problems? Or perhaps when you are fighting the colonization of the Lyme in the gut?

This sounds very interesting and probably beneficial to our treatments, I want to learn more! JimT  

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Hi ,

Swanson has a whole food multiviatmin... It has 100 mg of magnesium in it... We

can't completly

eliminate magnesium, I just try to keep oral magnesium salts to a low amount..

This is the vitamin

I use, you need to take 3 daily to get to the values in the supps list...

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU152/ItemDetail

Here is a discount code if you buy...

http://dealspl.us/swansonvitamins-coupons

Take care,

Jim

>

> Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:

> Does anyone know of any calcium or multi-vitamin/mineral or plain

multi-vitamin or plain multi-mineral supplements (that are food-based and not

synthetic-based) that do not have any magnesium in them - since those with Lyme

Disease are not supposed to take oral magnesium supplements because of them

causing bio-films over the Lyme Disease bacterium? I am especially wanting a

multi-mineral supplement but is there such a one without any magnesium?

> Thank you.

> P.S. Is it okay to eat foods that have magnesium in them for those with Lyme

Disease?

> Sincerely, in Christ Jesus the Lord,

> member

>

[Guest guest]

The reference from Dr. K is to supplements only, not food...

Jim

>

> Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:

> Does anyone know of any calcium or multi-vitamin/mineral or plain

multi-vitamin or plain multi-mineral supplements (that are food-based and not

synthetic-based) that do not have any magnesium in them - since those with Lyme

Disease are not supposed to take oral magnesium supplements because of them

causing bio-films over the Lyme Disease bacterium? I am especially wanting a

multi-mineral supplement but is there such a one without any magnesium?

> Thank you.

> P.S. Is it okay to eat foods that have magnesium in them for those with Lyme

Disease?

> Sincerely, in Christ Jesus the Lord,

> member

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin,

Check out this link about increasing DHEA levels with mag oil...

Note: Magnesium chloride is both a powder and also mag oil.. In this article

it pertains to mag oil...

http://healthyprotocols.com/2_dhea.htm

Magnesium oil is one of the most important supps for someone with Lyme... Best

to use only

Zechstein mag oil, no current day pollutants!

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=magnesium+oil & doSearch=true & ntt= & n\

=0 & ntk=Level1 & x=0 & y=0

Take care,

Jim

>

> I don't know about the biofilm issue, (and would like to know more about

> it) but I did read (please don't ask me where, I've slept since then) that

> trans-dermal magnesium also brings up the natural DHEA levels. I also

> benefit from the sulfur I get when using Epsom salts.

> I do know regarding the DHEA part of the magnesium question, that these

> soaks really keep my husband " young " feeling, if you know what I mean. I

> would say it's possibly the only 'real' aphrodisiac in existence with no

> side effects.

> So trans-dermal magnesium gets my vote, even though its a pain to get in

> there and soak as often as I need to.

> The weather is here, wish you were lovely,

> Love

> Robin Little

>

>

> I'm curious, can I ask where you got the info that taking it orally will

> help the biofilm manifest or strengthen, but taking it transdermally will

> not? Not that I question that, I would just like to learn more about it.

> ...I mean, in my uneducated and sometimes illogical mind, magnesium, once

> broken down orally to it's 'digestible' form it, then gets absorbed into

> the blood. Wouldn't the results be the same if taken transdermally? Except

> maybe taking it transdermally may allow much higher levels in the blood,

> and

> might be required for those with digestive problems? Or perhaps when you

> are fighting the colonization of the Lyme in the gut?

> This sounds very interesting and probably beneficial to our treatments, I

> want to learn more! JimT

>