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In a message dated 10/13/01 9:22:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

nasusxo@... writes:

<< Twice this week he has went into his walk in closet (it holds all of his

and Abby's clothes) and pulled them all on top of him so the closet is knee

deep in clothes with him burrowing under it!>>

<<The other thing is.....his mouth....or I should say fingers in his mouth.

Both index and middle fingers sometimes at the same time and others just

one at a time. He is not gagging himself he just has them either resting or

rubbing his teeth or mouth again WHY! >>

Okay, the clothes thing I know about! All the clothes on top of him probably

gave him feeling a lot of sensory feedback. I bet he just laid back and

snuggled into those clothes. :-) You could give him a space like the closet

with some baby blankets of different weights and let him heap them all on him

whenever he feels like it. (you could add some lights or sparkly things and

mirrors or music and make it a whole sensory experience!)

Now, the fingers in his mouth is probably just more sensory exploring. You

could take it as a sign that he would like to explore more with his

mouth....Give him varying textures of foods. Mashed potato, pop rocks, salt

crystals, pudding, they all provide varying degrees of input. I gave

a sensory board that I made up of all different types of feelings from sand

paper to cotton balls, aluminum foil, etc.....

(that was for feeling with his hands, not his mouth)

If I can find one of my old articles, I'll post it, okay?

It's ideas for sensory input.

:-)

kandie

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>>>Twice this week he has went into his walk in closet (it holds all of his

and Abby's clothes) and pulled them all on top of him so the closet is knee

deep in clothes with him burrowing under it! He does this with blankets but

never in his closet. I might add I didn't blow up or even get mad I just

took a deep breath and walked away and left him there! He was happy and

content to be under all the clothes....but WHY! Any ideas?? I have about 3

hours of folding an hanging stuff back up but he was content and not

getting into everything for about 45 mins!<<<

He's craving deep pressure. Boone piles sofa cushions on himself or pulls

the bean bag over him in his bed. Turn him on to one of these methods. beats

the crap out of doing all that laundry!

Sorry to hear about all the other stuiff-- hope your mom's CT scan comes out

OK.

Sissi

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> I feel like one of the lurkers this week! I have been reading just

not

> posting, I have been down in the dumps for a bit nad haven't had

much

> energy to write.

Been there, I think we all have at one point or another. Glad you

found the energy to write last night. Regarding medication: I take

prozac. I NEED my prozac. I always suffer from PPD which depending

on circumstances hangs around and may deepen into a full fledged

raging depression. I am also tandem nursing. You can nnrse and take

prozac. It is generally recognized as safe and effective even for

nursing moms.

> Not one melt down. Who are you and what have you done with my

child???

>

> THat was a good day!

What a good day indeed! Yeah Ben.

>

She didn't want to say anything cause she thinks

> I have enough on my plate with Ben's DX to worry about hers!

Sheesh! MOM!

> So needless to say I never told her about my DX I think she has

enough with

> worry about if she has Breast Cancer or not!

I hope all goes will for you mother. My parents do the same thing

with not calling about stuff when they think I have enough here.

Drives me nuts.

>

> Ben has been doing something that is driving me batty I think it

may have

> something to do with sensory issues but I know crap about sensory

stuff so

> I am appealing to you wise women for help!

>

> Twice this week he has went into his walk in closet

This is definitely sensory stuff. loves big heavy blankets

even now at nine. He makes a cacoon out of them. He also squishes

under the cushions on the back of the couch. Maybe something like a

weighted vest and brushing or deep pressure therapies may help right

now.

>

> The other thing is.....his mouth....or I should say fingers in his

mouth.

More sensory stuff. I want to say it was Amy who was doing some

sensory mouth stuff with Kep, but I may be remembering wrong.

Anyway, more of the same, looking for stimulation. Does Ben have an

OT? These are good clues for the OT to know what to work on.

>

Go see the doc again and ask about taking prozac . I have

taken zoloft also when chris was still nursing but he was two or

older. Hang in there.

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> Tuesday, I seen my doctor and he DX me with depression I am still not to

> sure what to think about it cause I can't take any meds cause I am still

> nursing....oh well

:

This is not medical advice. But who told you you couldn't take anti

depressants while nursing? Doctors often tell you not to take something

when they don't know where to find out. You might want to check out

Hale's website, but I can tell you off the top of my head that many nursing

moms take anti depressants (I have had many counselling calls regarding

them). I think the preferred order is Paxil is safest, then Zoloft and then

Prozac, but it is all due to half lifes. The shorter the half life the

safer it is to take while nursing. Dr. Hale's website has all this info.

Of course, most drugs have not been tested on nursing moms specifically and

anyone has the risk of having a reaction that no one else has ever had

before. The newer the drug, the greater the risk but most old drugs have

been taken enough that we know all their side effects. Those three anti

depressants have been around for a while now; I certainly would avoid any

newer antidepressants.

Salli

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----- Original Message -----

>

> Last weekend my DH did/said something sweet....I asked what he had planned

> on Sunday and he said nothing but " I would like it if you(as in me) go

out

> for a few hours to enjoy yourself and do a little shopping " ....he was

being

> sweet! SO I went! That was a good day!

This sounds very nice for you!

> Tuesday, I seen my doctor and he DX me with depression I am still not to

> sure what to think about it cause I can't take any meds cause I am still

> nursing....oh well! Gonna have to wait a bit, for help! I don't think it

is

> to bad I can still function I am just not the happiest I have ever been.

, there are some meds you can even take while you are pregnant, I think

Zoloft is one. You may want to do some researching on it. After all,

depressed and bipolar women can't just stop their meds for 9 months!

> On a lighter note I went to go and pick up Ben from day care and this

was

> our conversation......

> THat was a good day!

It certainly sounds like a great improvement!!

> My Mom calls she just now decides to tell me that the mammogram she had

> turned something up and now they are waiting for the results to come back

> from the Catscan. Jeepers! She didn't want to say anything cause she

thinks

> I have enough on my plate with Ben's DX to worry about her

My sister just did this. Her hubby gave me enough info to figure out she's

pregnant again, but she didn't want to tell any of us yet so we wouldn't

worry! (she miscarried her first pregnancy in Feb).

I hope all goes well for your mom!

> Twice this week he has went into his walk in closet (it holds all of his

> and Abby's clothes) and pulled them all on top of him so the closet is

knee

> deep in clothes with him burrowing under it! He does this with blankets

but

> never in his closet. I might add I didn't blow up or even get mad I just

> took a deep breath and walked away and left him there! He was happy and

> content to be under all the clothes....but WHY! Any ideas

Sensory. He needs to be enveloped. Maybe you could place the blankets and

a stack of pillows in the closet for him to use and he might not pull down

the clothes. You handled it very well!

> The other thing is.....his mouth....or I should say fingers in his mouth.

> Both index and middle fingers sometimes at the same time and others just

> one at a time. He is not gagging himself he just has them either resting

or

> rubbing his teeth or mouth again WHY! He also spent the whole time at the

> pool spitting water in out if his mouth real hard! NOt drinking it just

> putting in and spitting it out with enough force for it to fly 2 ft away

> form him! WHy?

Still sounds like sensory. You might try giving him bowls or trays of

things to put his hands into that feel different, and incase it's for his

mouth, try different textures of foods. Also there is a toy that has

different textures on it that he could mouth if you can find one like that.

Sorry this stuff is driving you nuts, but it sounds pretty typical for kids

like ours!

Sue

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>Okay, the clothes thing I know about! All the clothes on top of him probably

>gave him feeling a lot of sensory feedback. I bet he just laid back and

>snuggled into those clothes. :-) You could give him a space like the closet

>with some baby blankets of different weights and let him heap them all on him

>whenever he feels like it. (you could add some lights or sparkly things and

>mirrors or music and make it a whole sensory experience!)

Hmmm where do you get heavy blankets! He already has this thick wool one

that is ruff and he loves to sleep with that one!

>Now, the fingers in his mouth is probably just more sensory exploring. You

>could take it as a sign that he would like to explore more with his

>mouth....Give him varying textures of foods. Mashed potato, pop rocks, salt

>crystals, pudding, they all provide varying degrees of input. I gave

>a sensory board that I made up of all different types of feelings from sand

>paper to cotton balls, aluminum foil, etc.....

>(that was for feeling with his hands, not his mouth)

Hmmm any articles at this point would be great! I am at my whits end! This

week he has his assessment with the OT therapist and I will bring it up

with her!

>If I can find one of my old articles, I'll post it, okay?

Yes yes I always book mark any of the stuff you guys send my way!

>It's ideas for sensory input.

>

>:-)

>

>kandie

Wife to

Mom to Ben (aka Godzilla)

On call milk machine to Abby(aka stinkerbell)

" Some days you are the Bug, some days you are the Windshield "

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THanks I am keeping track of al the suggestions so I can talk to my doctor

about them!

At 10:16 AM 10/14/2001, you wrote:

>Zoloft is generally considered safe for nursing & oregnancy too I believe.

>At least it was a year ago when my friend was on it.

>

>

>-Sara.

>wife to Matt

>SAHM to nurslings

>Mikey, 9/14/99, Autism, and

>Gabe, born at home 5/17/01, GERD

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>

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In a message dated 10/14/01 12:22:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

nasusxo@... writes:

> Suggestions or ideas at this point would be great? Is he going through a

> phase? Is something bothering him? HELP!

>

>

Hi: There is definitely medication you can take while nursing...I want to

say that both Zoloft and Paxil are compatible. But I would check Hale's

before taking anything. This article might help: <A

HREF= " http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBMarApr00p55.html " >LLLI: Maternal

Medications

and Breastfeeding</A>

Ben sounds like he is craving sensory input. My son did the same thing in my

closet with all my husband's ties. Have you tried putting out a sleeping bag

from him that he can crawl into? Could he possible be teething or getting

molars way in the back? They might be bugging him. Have you tried some kind

of stimulus for his mouth? Like a massager or maybe one of those new

circulating tooth brushes?

Pam

Let There Be Peace On Earth,

and

Let It Begin With Me

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In a message dated 10/14/01 4:02:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

nasusxo@... writes:

> Hmmm any articles at this point would be great! I am at my whits end! This

> week he has his assessment with the OT therapist and I will bring it up

> with her!

>

>

>

Have you read the Out of Sync Child? Lots of information in that one. :)

Pam

Let There Be Peace On Earth,

and

Let It Begin With Me

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