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Dear ,

yes, isn´t it great news that kundalini is just a rope? Only 100% of

the time?

Just to remind you! No, that was a lie, I was reminding ME of

course:)!

Love you,

>

> Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

that it

> is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news? It

is

> in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this is

> true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> Love

>

> > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

everything

> is

> > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

what our

> > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a snake.

> >

> > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> >

>

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Dear ,

yes, isn´t it great news that kundalini is just a rope? Only 100% of

the time?

Just to remind you! No, that was a lie, I was reminding ME of

course:)!

Love you,

>

> Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

that it

> is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news? It

is

> in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this is

> true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> Love

>

> > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

everything

> is

> > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

what our

> > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a snake.

> >

> > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> >

>

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> Dear ,

> yes, isn´t it great news that kundalini is just a rope? Only 100%

of

> the time?

> Just to remind you! No, that was a lie, I was reminding ME of

> course:)!

>

> Love you,

>

> >

> > Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

> that it

> > is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news?

It

> is

> > in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this

is

> > true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> > Love

> >

> > > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

> everything

> > is

> > > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

> what our

> > > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a

snake.

> > >

> > > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear , Whether or not I believe in my symptoms, or a particular

disease, those symptoms may or may not still manifest in my body.

But what I did experience is that it's possible to drop the story

that my condition is bad or scary, so that there is no suffering. I

didn't seem to mind what the energy in my body was doing, because I

was in a state of total peace..... The fear I had was the rope that

I confused with a snake. I was just reminding me here, also.

Love

>

> Dear ,

> yes, isn´t it great news that kundalini is just a rope? Only 100%

of

> the time?

> Just to remind you! No, that was a lie, I was reminding ME of

> course:)!

>

> Love you,

>

> >

> > Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

> that it

> > is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news?

It

> is

> > in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this

is

> > true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> > Love

> >

> > > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

> everything

> > is

> > > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

> what our

> > > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a

snake.

> > >

> > > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> > >

> >

>

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YEs it is great.. its a rope 100% of the time..

Bob on and Wheeler are two authors who get this as well..

I havent read it yet but Bob ons book is called..

Whats wrong with right now, Unless you Think About it.

Wheelers book is called. Awakening to the NAtural State.

" Our true nature is that simple and undeniable presence of awareness .... "

His website is thenaturalstate

Basically he says you dont have to do anything or improve to be

enlightened.. we already are.

He also says believing our thoughts is the cause of our suffering.

its always nice to be reminded when i am so stuck in believeing my

thoughts..

love, roslyn

>

> Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact that it

> is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news? It is

> in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this is

> true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> Love

>

> > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience everything

> is

> > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear what our

> > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a snake.

> >

> > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> >

>

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Dear Roslyn, It doesnt seem very helpful to say we don't have to do

anything to get enlightened because we already are, even though it

may be true. What I love about is that she teaches EXACTLY how

to realize our enlightenment. She is the only teacher I am aware of

who has ever done that. There are endless teachers of meditation,

and who give spiritual discourses, who have started various

religions, cults, and organizations. There have been so many great

saints and masters, but they generally leave this all important step

out for some reason. Without the specific understanding of how to

undo the mechanism of mind-identification, self-realization is not

likely to occur. Does Wheeler teach how to undo the ego in some

way also? (I found the Wheeler website. it's got " org " at the end)

Love

> >

> > Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

that it

> > is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news?

It is

> > in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this

is

> > true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> > Love

> >

> > > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

everything

> > is

> > > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

what our

> > > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a

snake.

> > >

> > > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> > >

> >

>

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dear ,

Im glad you found it.

I dont think he has a method exactly.. except to say look at who you

really are.

to quote from the book Awakening to the Natural State

" PRactices , as i eventually learned , usually are interminable . This

is because they are based on false premises. "

..

basically what he says is What we are seeking is always avalilable NOW

He quotes bob adamson who said the answer can never be found in the mind.

I guess that is why katie says go to the heart and ask from that

space.. which i dont do much.

HES a bit different in that unlike so many spiritual teachers he does

not say you need to do something to get somewhere.

We are all already there and there is nothing to get to.

HEs sort of like Tony PARsons only nicer. if you have ever read Tony.

I think i read to avoid doing the work and i want to start doing the

work but i did like john Wheelers take on things as it is sort of a

new way of looking at things for me.

Im so into self improvement its nice to think we dont need it after

all.. still i will read his book in an effort to improve .. tehe..

you mentioned the ego.. he says it doesnt exist..

love, roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> Dear Roslyn, It doesnt seem very helpful to say we don't have to do

> anything to get enlightened because we already are, even though it

> may be true. What I love about is that she teaches EXACTLY how

> to realize our enlightenment. She is the only teacher I am aware of

> who has ever done that. There are endless teachers of meditation,

> and who give spiritual discourses, who have started various

> religions, cults, and organizations. There have been so many great

> saints and masters, but they generally leave this all important step

> out for some reason. Without the specific understanding of how to

> undo the mechanism of mind-identification, self-realization is not

> likely to occur. Does Wheeler teach how to undo the ego in some

> way also? (I found the Wheeler website. it's got " org " at the end)

> Love

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the fact

> that it

> > > is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great news?

> It is

> > > in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that this

> is

> > > true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding myself.

> > > Love

> > >

> > > > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

> everything

> > > is

> > > > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only fear

> what our

> > > > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a

> snake.

> > > >

> > > > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Rosyln, I do love the last thing that you said, That we don't

need self-improvement after all! I have said that myself many times.

That is why I am so turned off by the the self-improvement people,

Tony Robbins for example. I am highly amused by a lady named Barbara

Sher. She is not a spiritual guru at all, she teaches how to find

and do what you really love in life. But she promises to do it with

no noticeable self improvement at all!! She is very funny. She says

it's ok if you want to lose weight or get in shape, etc, but not at

all necessary to getting what you want. I shouldnt compare her, she

is really more of a career counselor, but I loved that line of hers.

I also like what says about practices being interminable. I

have been practicing transcendtal meditation for 30 years, and that

is my experience too. It's wonderful to meditate, but most of the

people I know who do that practice, think they have some ultimate

knowledge and don't need anything else. I had an awakening 20 years

ago, like 's but temporary, and I realized that meditation had

little to do with enlightenment, except as a catalyst. It creates

fertile soil, but the individual must ultimately choose reality over

illusions.

The statement that what we are seeking is always available NOW is

very Tollish! Who I love very much. does sound inspirational,

buy I have Eckart for that. I saw him speak on video, and he has

such a sweet presence. He is like an elf. The innocence of a child

and the wisdom of a master.

The spiritual world seems big on inspiration, but small on the how-

to's. That's why blows me away so much. She is Christ to me. I

was thinking last night how she metaphorically came in on a donkey,

but being so mentally ill for so long. The ultimate in humility. She

was the lowest of the low, and now has become our teacher, if we are

willing to accept her.

ONe more thing, you are right, the ego does not exist, except that

we believe that it does, and so we suffer the results.

Love

> > > >

> > > > Dear Roslyn, One more thought about your post. I love the

fact

> > that it

> > > > is always a rope! Only 100% of the time. Isnt that great

news?

> > It is

> > > > in my rare moments of clarity, that I can really know that

this

> > is

> > > > true. The rest of the time, I just have to keep reminding

myself.

> > > > Love

> > > >

> > > > > She also gave the snake story and that in her experience

> > everything

> > > > is

> > > > > a rope.. The snake is a rope 100 % of the time. WE only

fear

> > what our

> > > > > mind thinks exists. When you belive what you think its a

> > snake.

> > > > >

> > > > > Be open to everything all is for our enlightenment.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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