Re: DC Coil technical question

[Guest guest]

Hi Joe,

Try 432 Hz. At 1.3 amperes, the amplifier fan should kick in at 4 or 4 1/2

minutes.

The rate of heating of the amplifier and coil, is relatively proportionate to

the frequency used. The rule of thumb is: the higher the frequency, the quicker

the amp and coil will heat up. And it's not a mathematical equation. Doubling

the frequency does not heat the amp and coil in half the time, etc. What I have

found, is that an increase from 432 Hz. to 690 Hz., heats the coil and amp in

about half the time. 832 Hz. can heat it much faster.

Ideally, one wants to set the AMPL (amplitude knob) reading for the frequency

generator as high as possible, to generate the most current to the coil, for

the most powerful EMF. Setting the AMPERE readout at 1.3 (with the old, separate

multimeter design), or at 13 (current design meter readout, on the rife unit

itself) is the best overall setting for most amplifiers and coils, using most

frequencies for Lyme and co's under 1000 Hz.

If your amplifier and coil are getting too hot too soon, you can adjust that

setting a bit lower. I find that VERY SMALL adjustments, say - 1/4 of an ampere,

is sometimes enough to heat the amplifier and coil more slowly. You can

experiment, to get the best results from your equipment.

My 2 coils respond differently, using the same frequency, with different switch

settings, based on the specs of each coil and the switch calculator. I get the

same heating at setting one of them at 14 AMPL, and the other at 13 1/4 AMPL.

The amplifier fan will come on at about 4 - 4 1/2 minutes for each at those

settings. In other words, one coil runs much hotter than the other at the exact

same frequency. This is due to all coils being hand made and individual. I don't

recall if the amplifier gets hotter faster with one coil over the other at the

same AMPL setting.

I would not go below a setting of 12 AMPL, as the readout drops evem more during

the session, and the EMF will not be as powerful. But if in doubt, ask .

You may just want to shorten your coiling treatment times at higher frequencies,

to give the amplifier and coil time to cool down.

- Jane

>

> I think I have noticed my amp fan kicking in to high too soon, plus it seems

as if I have to turn my amplitude up to far to get to 1.3A

>

> Does anyone know the frx that used to set at 1.3 and be able to time it

so that the fan would come on near 4.5 mins? I could use this test to tell

whether there may be a problem with my amp.

> Thanks,

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

To confirm what Jane just said, I run a single doug coiil at both freq's 432 & 864. I've noticed that the 432 does not cause the amp to 'cycle' (cooling) and will run constant for up to 5 minutes (have not gone over that yet). But, when I run at 864, I starts cycling at about 4 minutes.

I run it at about 14.8 amps, just a hair under 15 amps. I always seem to feel it more at the 832 when coiling.

JimT

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Joe,Try 432 Hz. At 1.3 amperes, the amplifier fan should kick in at 4 or 4 1/2 minutes.The rate of heating of the amplifier and coil, is relatively proportionate to the frequency used. The rule of thumb is: the higher the frequency, the quicker the amp and coil will heat up. And it's not a mathematical equation. Doubling the frequency does not heat the amp and coil in half the time, etc. What I have found, is that an increase from 432 Hz. to 690 Hz., heats the coil and amp in about half the time. 832 Hz. can heat it much faster.Ideally, one wants to set the AMPL (amplitude knob) reading for the frequency generator as high as possible, to generate the most current to the coil, for the most powerful EMF. Setting the AMPERE readout at 1.3 (with the old, separate multimeter design), or at 13 (current design meter readout, on the rife unit itself) is the best overall setting for most amplifiers and coils, using most frequencies for Lyme and co's under 1000 Hz.If your amplifier and coil are getting too hot too soon, you can adjust that setting a bit lower. I find that VERY SMALL adjustments, say - 1/4 of an ampere, is sometimes enough to heat the amplifier and coil more slowly. You can experiment, to get the best results from your equipment.My 2 coils respond differently, using the same frequency, with different switch settings, based on the specs of each coil and the switch calculator. I get the same heating at setting one of them at 14 AMPL, and the other at 13 1/4 AMPL. The amplifier fan will come on at about 4 - 4 1/2 minutes for each at those settings. In other words, one coil runs much hotter than the other at the exact same frequency. This is due to all coils being hand made and individual. I don't recall if the amplifier gets hotter faster with one coil over the other at the same AMPL setting.I would not go below a setting of 12 AMPL, as the readout drops evem more during the session, and the EMF will not be as powerful. But if in doubt, ask .You may just want to shorten your coiling treatment times at higher frequencies, to give the amplifier and coil time to cool down.- Jane>> I think I have noticed my amp fan kicking in to high too soon, plus it seems as if I have to turn my amplitude up to far to get to 1.3A> > Does anyone know the frx that used to set at 1.3 and be able to time it so that the fan would come on near 4.5 mins? I could use this test to tell whether there may be a problem with my amp. > Thanks,> Joe>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane,

Thank you for taking the time out to respond and for sharing how

your machine is performing.

I remembered performing the test while at 's and didn't remember

the frx. Of course it makes sense that it was 432. The test

performed almost as what was expected, as the fan increased speed at

4:20, just shy of the 4.5 mins. so all seemed near normal.

At one point I had always laid the coil on the upholstered chair

while I set up my coiling session, where I would sit. I didn't know

for a couple weeks, but after I picked up the coil and put it on my

body, it increased amplitude, when I finally noticed it, it was at

1.8 amps.....way over what was recommended. It did kick out the fuse

on the amp at one point. Turns out, metal springs in between the

upholstered chair was creating the havoc with the coil.

Now, I am careful of any metal being around the coil when setting

the amplitude. However, I think there still is a problem, which I

would think is with the amp. I just ran the test at 432 at 1.3 amps

and it timed at 1 min 15 seconds and the fan went into high speed. I

sent an email yesterday and I know he is busy, so am doubly

appreciative of you responding. I will forward this email to him

too, perhaps he will let me know his thoughts.

As far as running the coil at higher amps for a couple of weeks,

this was a couple months ago and it seemingly has been performing as

it should, that is up until now.

The issue I am surmising is if I approach QSI on the warranty of the

amp, how am I going to explain that the amp has got a problem in

this regard......they probably know very little about what I would

tell them, and I can't afford to be without it even coiling at lower

settings.

I would even be tempted to go for a stronger amp, like you said Doug

McClean used, and be on the lookout for one on ebay or something.

Jim's amp seems to be performing above expectations; strange.

Blessings, Joe

Hi Joe,

Try 432 Hz. At 1.3 amperes, the amplifier fan should kick

in at 4 or 4 1/2 minutes.

The rate of heating of the amplifier and coil, is

relatively proportionate to the frequency used. The rule

of thumb is: the higher the frequency, the quicker the amp

and coil will heat up. And it's not a mathematical

equation. Doubling the frequency does not heat the amp and

coil in half the time, etc. What I have found, is that an

increase from 432 Hz. to 690 Hz., heats the coil and amp

in about half the time. 832 Hz. can heat it much faster.

Ideally, one wants to set the AMPL (amplitude knob)

reading for the frequency generator as high as possible,

to generate the most current to the coil, for the most

powerful EMF. Setting the AMPERE readout at 1.3 (with the

old, separate multimeter design), or at 13 (current design

meter readout, on the rife unit itself) is the best

overall setting for most amplifiers and coils, using most

frequencies for Lyme and co's under 1000 Hz.

If your amplifier and coil are getting too hot too soon,

you can adjust that setting a bit lower. I find that VERY

SMALL adjustments, say - 1/4 of an ampere, is sometimes

enough to heat the amplifier and coil more slowly. You can

experiment, to get the best results from your equipment.

My 2 coils respond differently, using the same frequency,

with different switch settings, based on the specs of each

coil and the switch calculator. I get the same heating at

setting one of them at 14 AMPL, and the other at 13 1/4

AMPL. The amplifier fan will come on at about 4 - 4 1/2

minutes for each at those settings. In other words, one

coil runs much hotter than the other at the exact same

frequency. This is due to all coils being hand made and

individual. I don't recall if the amplifier gets hotter

faster with one coil over the other at the same AMPL

setting.

I would not go below a setting of 12 AMPL, as the readout

drops evem more during the session, and the EMF will not

be as powerful. But if in doubt, ask .

You may just want to shorten your coiling treatment times

at higher frequencies, to give the amplifier and coil time

to cool down.

- Jane

>

> I think I have noticed my amp fan kicking in to high

too soon, plus it seems as if I have to turn my amplitude

up to far to get to 1.3A

>

> Does anyone know the frx that used to set at 1.3

and be able to time it so that the fan would come on near

4.5 mins? I could use this test to tell whether there may

be a problem with my amp.

> Thanks,

> Joe

>

-- "Im not trying to counsel any of you to do anything

really special,except to dare to think, and to dare to go with the truth ,and to dare to love completely." -R. Buckminster Fuller

[Guest guest]

I don't know what would say, but my amp fan seems to come on at about 5

minutes on 432 hz at that 1.3A setting

Sherry

>

> I think I have noticed my amp fan kicking in to high too soon, plus it seems

as if I have to turn my amplitude up to far to get to 1.3A

>

> Does anyone know the frx that used to set at 1.3 and be able to time it

so that the fan would come on near 4.5 mins? I could use this test to tell

whether there may be a problem with my amp.

> Thanks,

> Joe

>