NK cell count-Can anyone interpret?

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Interpretation will depend upon the lab used. The lab should mark any out-of-range results, and will also tell what the normal ranges are. This is because labs use different tests, thus the normal ranges differ per test/lab. NK cells are what is needed to kill intracellular pathogens, and note that those with autism have too many intracellular pathogens. If you google, you will find that it is common for those with autism and lyme to have abnormal NK cells, or more specifically, CD 57 t-cells. This is why some docs feel that lyme is the main thing disabling their immune systems, allowing all the other pathogens and toxins to stock-pile. Turmeric, Samento, chelation, and other things are reportedly able to boost NK cells. Of course, ridding infections in general, should help towards freeing up the NK cells. It is thought that they burn out due to too much stress from pleomorphic bacteria, like lyme, and also mercury lowers NK cells.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

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i just received my son's NK cell counts yesterday. This is the first time we have had them run so I don't know how to interpret.Absolute Lymphocytes 3717CD3-CD16+CD56+ (ABS) 257CD3-CD16+CD56+ (%) 7%He has been on LDN for almost 7 months and I wish I had thought to run these before we started. I think LDN is supposed to help with NK levels.Any help would be appreciated!Thanks,"A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Listmates,

i just received my son's NK cell counts yesterday. This is the first

time we have had them run so I don't know how to interpret.

Absolute Lymphocytes 3717

CD3-CD16+CD56+ (ABS) 257

CD3-CD16+CD56+ (%) 7%

He has been on LDN for almost 7 months and I wish I had thought to run

these before we started. I think LDN is supposed to help with NK

levels.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks,

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Hi Heidi,

Thanks so much for your detailed reply! We are currently treating

Lyme and Erlichia. I had the NK count run because many on my Lyme

board say that theirs are abnormally low. We ran through Quest,

range is 6--540 for absolute NK cells. His is 257. So I think

that is OK. Nothing on the three markers were flagged out of range.

I believe that Lyme is a huge piece in his recovery. We have

lowered our metals, but still have more work to do there. Plan to

re-start chelation in 2 weeks after getting the OK from our Lyme doc.

He has also been on LDN for 7 months which helps with immune

modulation and NK cells also.

Also have anti viral and antifungal on board right now as well (have

already kicked HHV6) . We have seen a LOT of improvement since

starting Lyme treatment 2 months ago.

Thanks again!

julia

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> Interpretation will depend upon the lab used. The lab should mark

any

> out-of-range results, and will also tell what the normal ranges

are. This is

> because labs use different tests, thus the normal ranges differ

per test/lab. NK

> cells are what is needed to kill intracellular pathogens, and

note that

> those with autism have too many intracellular pathogens. If you

google, you will

> find that it is common for those with autism and lyme to have

abnormal NK

> cells, or more specifically, CD 57 t-cells. This is why some

docs feel that

> lyme is the main thing disabling their immune systems, allowing

all the other

> pathogens and toxins to stock-pile. Turmeric, Samento,

chelation, and other

> things are reportedly able to boost NK cells. Of course, ridding

infections

> in general, should help towards freeing up the NK cells. It is

thought that

> they burn out due to too much stress from pleomorphic bacteria,

like lyme, and

> also mercury lowers NK cells.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

>

>

> " Listmates,

> i just received my son's NK cell counts yesterday. This is the

first

> time we have had them run so I don't know how to interpret.

>

> Absolute Lymphocytes 3717

> CD3-CD16+CD56+ (ABS) 257

> CD3-CD16+CD56+ (%) 7%

>

> He has been on LDN for almost 7 months and I wish I had thought

to run

> these before we started. I think LDN is supposed to help with NK

> levels.

>

> Any help would be appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

> "

>

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This is the very statement that leads me to believe lyme is the main cause of autism. Of all the treatments on the forums that I see people post about, lyme treatment is the number one thing I see people say causes improvements. I finally believed those posts and started my family on lyme treatments. I agree that lyme and lyme coinfection treatment is the number one treatment improving my family. Detoxing helps as well. Thus, it's definitely a combination. I can not vouch for Quest labs because most of the literature on the Internet is from LabCorp, but when normal CD 57's are obtained, it is suspected that a lyme coinfection is to blame for most of the symptoms. I have read that if your child has OCD or has to have things a certain way, speech issues, anxiety, etc., look at Bartonella. If your child is excessively thirsty, nightmares, fatigue, look at Babesia. But, there are more coinfections as well, these appear to be very common. But if you are seeing improvements, than for now keep doing whatever you are doing. If it works, stay with it.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

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What is Bartonella? What can be done do take care of it????

Subject: Re:NK cell count-Can anyone interpret?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 9:34 AM

This is the very statement that leads me to believe lyme is the main cause of autism. Of all the treatments on the forums that I see people post about, lyme treatment is the number one thing I see people say causes improvements. I finally believed those posts and started my family on lyme treatments. I agree that lyme and lyme coinfection treatment is the number one treatment improving my family. Detoxing helps as well. Thus, it's definitely a combination. I can not vouch for Quest labs because most of the literature on the Internet is from LabCorp, but when normal CD 57's are obtained, it is suspected that a lyme coinfection is to blame for most of the symptoms. I have read that if your child has OCD or has to have things a certain way, speech issues, anxiety, etc., look at Bartonella. If your child is excessively thirsty, nightmares, fatigue, look at Babesia. But, there are more

coinfections as well, these appear to be very common. But if you are seeing improvements, than for now keep doing whatever you are doing. If it works, stay with it.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

"We have seen a LOT of improvement since starting Lyme treatment 2 months ago.Thanks again!julia"

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Klinghardt also seems to believe that all cavities are caused by

bartonella. I hadn't heard that before watching his dvd from his

2008 conference.

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> To: mb12 valtrex

> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 9:34 AM

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> This is the very statement that leads me to believe lyme is the

main cause of autism.  Of all the treatments on the forums that I see

people post about, lyme treatment is the number one thing I see

people say causes improvements.  I finally believed those posts and

started my family on lyme treatments.  I agree that lyme and lyme

coinfection treatment is the number one treatment improving my

family.  Detoxing helps as well.  Thus, it's definitely a

combination.  I can not vouch for Quest labs because most of the

literature on the Internet is from LabCorp, but when normal CD 57's

are obtained, it is suspected that a lyme coinfection is to blame for

most of the symptoms.  I have read that if your child has OCD or has

to have things a certain way, speech issues, anxiety, etc., look at

Bartonella.  If your child is excessively thirsty, nightmares,

fatigue, look at Babesia.  But, there are more coinfections as well,

these appear to be very

> common.  But if you are seeing improvements, than for now keep

doing whatever you are doing.  If it works, stay with it.  

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> Love and prayers,

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> Heidi N

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> " We have seen a LOT of improvement since

> starting Lyme treatment 2 months ago.

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> Thanks again!

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> julia "

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