Re: I found examples of how my turnaround is true!

[Guest guest]

welcome to the work.

And as for what you might want to do next.

Tell her about your findings.

Leave away the parts you think may hurt her.

Like:

" Sweetheart, I am calling to tell you that I am sorry. I was being

self-righteous and didn't really accept your point of view. I did not

listen. I was too busy making you listen to me, instead.

I love you, and I want to be friends with you, again.

What do you say? "

Love,

Am 19.03.2006 um 01:18 schrieb :

> Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how she

> didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of love

> and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to cause

> suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom. Anyway,

> my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her either.

>

> I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I mostly

> just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I did

> finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> about me!

> I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is arrogent

> and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just not

> where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant was

> when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from me) I

> thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted to

> talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> over me that I never expected.

> The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I can't

> report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never did,

> would it?

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[Guest guest]

Thanks , That is a wonderful suggestion. The only problem

is that I really wasnt able to see that I was self-righteous in the

situation for which she was angry with me, although you could be

right about it. I felt that I was sharing something wonderful with

her. I was able to find my self-righteousness for things that she

is not actually aware of, as far as I know. Perhaps I dont really

want to be her friend...

LOve

>

> welcome to the work.

>

> And as for what you might want to do next.

>

> Tell her about your findings.

>

> Leave away the parts you think may hurt her.

>

> Like:

> " Sweetheart, I am calling to tell you that I am sorry. I was

being

> self-righteous and didn't really accept your point of view. I did

not

> listen. I was too busy making you listen to me, instead.

>

> I love you, and I want to be friends with you, again.

>

> What do you say? "

>

> Love,

>

>

> Am 19.03.2006 um 01:18 schrieb :

>

> > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

she

> > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

love

> > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

cause

> > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

Anyway,

> > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

either.

> >

> > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

mostly

> > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

did

> > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > about me!

> > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

arrogent

> > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

not

> > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

was

> > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

me) I

> > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

to

> > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> > over me that I never expected.

> > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

can't

> > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

did,

> > would it?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

dear , KAtie wouldnt defend herself either..

She says she can see how any trait anyone accuses her of she can find

somewhere in the past.

Its her story of katie she doesnt like not katie.And its her story of

you she doesnt like.

Also katie says " everyone loves me i just dont expect them to

realize it yet. " Because we are all love.

Just like you dont like the story of carol --

However katie says when we hate someone we hurt ourselves because we

are love..And its going against our nature which is to love.

I'd keep doing the work on carol maybe more will come up.. I say that

when im the one that should be doing the work..

oh well.tomorrow i really will.I promise.

love, roslyn

- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how she

> didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

love

> and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to cause

> suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom. Anyway,

> my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her either.

>

> I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I mostly

> just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I did

> finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> about me!

> I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

arrogent

> and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just not

> where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

was

> when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from me) I

> thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted to

> talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> over me that I never expected.

> The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I can't

> report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never did,

> would it?

>

[Guest guest]

Wow

You sound like me, I loved your answer

Honesty is such a turn on.

We are all human and sharing our humanity is a act of self love!

Like:

Sometimes I am a needy person, will it bother you?

What do you suggest me to do?

And so on...

Love, T

> welcome to the work.

>

> And as for what you might want to do next.

>

> Tell her about your findings.

>

> Leave away the parts you think may hurt her.

>

> Like:

> " Sweetheart, I am calling to tell you that I am sorry. I was

being

> self-righteous and didn't really accept your point of view. I did

not

> listen. I was too busy making you listen to me, instead.

>

> I love you, and I want to be friends with you, again.

>

> What do you say? "

>

> Love,

>

>

> Am 19.03.2006 um 01:18 schrieb :

>

> > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

she

> > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

love

> > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

cause

> > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

Anyway,

> > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

either.

> >

> > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

mostly

> > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

did

> > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > about me!

> > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

arrogent

> > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

not

> > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

was

> > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

me) I

> > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

to

> > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> > over me that I never expected.

> > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

can't

> > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

did,

> > would it?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey J

Honesty is my department

You can say:

I can see now why you could be right by accusing me

Of wanting to be right and make you wrong.

Sometimes I don't see it.

Can we meet and make love?

(Well, that is my version, J, you can end it deferently)

T

-- I found examples of how my turnaround is true!

Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how she

didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of love

and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to cause

suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom. Anyway,

my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her either.

I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I mostly

just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I did

finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

about me!

I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is arrogent

and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just not

where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant was

when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from me) I

thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted to

talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

over me that I never expected.

The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I can't

report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never did,

would it?

[Guest guest]

Hi Roslyn, it's a little confusing, because I know that what Carol

doesnt like is her story of me. As says, no two people have

ever met. Yet, also says to accept criticism, because there is

always someplace that what other people say is true, and we can

learn from them. And I can find that what she says could be true,

just not exactly where she thinks she sees it! I found where I was

arrogant, and therefor making her wrong in my mind.

Maybe Carol is right. I do think that I know better about what

is teaching, and I love sharing that understanding, but mostly

because it helps ME to learn it. If Carol wants to learn it or not

is her business. But I find I inspire myself, which I love. I really

kind of innocently fell into this trap, because I had somehow

believed that CArol liked and believed in , since I found katie

through Carol's reccomendation! So I didnt think I was preaching

something so opposite to Carol's beliefs. Apparently I was!

What I love so much about is that she tell it like it is. She

speaks the truth as she see it, and doesnt tip toe around, unless

she knows it will hurt someone. I like to think that i do the same.

Should I apologize for being honest about what I believe in?

I should give Carol some credit. She did indirectly apologize to me

for being a bitch, by asking a mutual friend to tell me. I guess

that is as good as I can expect.

Love

> >

> > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

she

> > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> love

> > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

cause

> > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

Anyway,

> > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

either.

> >

> > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

mostly

> > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

did

> > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > about me!

> > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> arrogent

> > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

am

> > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

not

> > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

As

> > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

my

> > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

> was

> > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

me) I

> > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

to

> > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

came

> > over me that I never expected.

> > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

can't

> > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

did,

> > would it?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear , Sounds like you can let it go.. i wouldnt apologize

maybe agree to disagree . And if your friendship ends you've been

spared. katie says any time a relationship ends you have been spared.

You probably knew that one too.

The trait she is accusing you of having doesnt have to be in the way

she sees it. Being human we all have the same traits some time or

another. .

had asked our group to accuse her of the worst things we could

think of and someone said being a murderer would be the worst and

katie said i can find where i wished someone was dead and i wished

them to be dead now.

I wish i could convince my kids to see things my way but of course

they dont. And probably the one thing i have learned is to stay out of

their business more.

We are all on our own spiritual path.

ok I will admit i get tempted to give advise -you probably noticed my

advise emails? oh well. disregard.

love,roslyn

> > >

> > > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

> she

> > > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> > love

> > > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

> cause

> > > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

> Anyway,

> > > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

> either.

> > >

> > > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

> mostly

> > > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

> did

> > > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > > about me!

> > > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> > arrogent

> > > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

> am

> > > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

> not

> > > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

> As

> > > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

> my

> > > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

> > was

> > > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

> me) I

> > > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

> to

> > > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

> came

> > > over me that I never expected.

> > > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

> can't

> > > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

> did,

> > > would it?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tami, I am starting to like your suggestion here. I could

say, " Yes, thank you. I do like to be right sometimes. Thank you for

showing me. Now we both know it! " Carol isnt my type really for

making love, For one thing, she is a woman,(and talk about a big

belli, oi vay.. ...)

Love

>

> Hey J

>

> Honesty is my department

>

> You can say:

>

> I can see now why you could be right by accusing me

> Of wanting to be right and make you wrong.

>

> Sometimes I don't see it.

>

> Can we meet and make love?

> (Well, that is my version, J, you can end it deferently)

>

> T

>

>

>

> -- I found examples of how my turnaround is

true!

>

> Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

she

> didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

love

> and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to cause

> suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

Anyway,

> my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her either.

>

> I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I mostly

> just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

did

> finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> about me!

> I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

arrogent

> and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just not

> where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

was

> when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from me)

I

> thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

to

> talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> over me that I never expected.

> The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I can't

> report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

did,

> would it?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jeffery are you a man or a women?

I thought you where a man, so why having problem making love to a women?

Are you gay?

I need to label things

Thank you, T

-- I found examples of how my turnaround is

true!

>

> Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

she

> didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

love

> and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to cause

> suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

Anyway,

> my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her either.

>

> I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I mostly

> just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

did

> finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> about me!

> I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

arrogent

> and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I am

> arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just not

> where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious! As

> soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of my

> identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

was

> when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from me)

I

> thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

to

> talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom came

> over me that I never expected.

> The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I can't

> report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

did,

> would it?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Tami, you are sooo perceptive!

J

> >

> > Hey J

> >

> > Honesty is my department

> >

> > You can say:

> >

> > I can see now why you could be right by accusing me

> > Of wanting to be right and make you wrong.

> >

> > Sometimes I don't see it.

> >

> > Can we meet and make love?

> > (Well, that is my version, J, you can end it deferently)

> >

> > T

> >

> >

> >

> > -- I found examples of how my turnaround

is

> true!

> >

> > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

> she

> > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> love

> > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

cause

> > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

> Anyway,

> > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

either.

> >

> > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

mostly

> > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

> did

> > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > about me!

> > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> arrogent

> > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

am

> > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

not

> > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

As

> > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

my

> > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

> was

> > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

me)

> I

> > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

> to

> > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

came

> > over me that I never expected.

> > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

can't

> > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

> did,

> > would it?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

So you are gay?

Please be clear, I need to label you

T

-- I found examples of how my turnaround

is

> true!

> >

> > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

> she

> > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what has

> > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> love

> > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

cause

> > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

> Anyway,

> > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

either.

> >

> > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

mostly

> > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

> did

> > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > about me!

> > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> arrogent

> > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

am

> > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

not

> > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

As

> > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

my

> > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was arrogant

> was

> > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

me)

> I

> > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never wanted

> to

> > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

came

> > over me that I never expected.

> > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

can't

> > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

> did,

> > would it?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Tami Sweetheart, I am everything you say I am. What else could I be?

Love

> > >

> > > Hey J

> > >

> > > Honesty is my department

> > >

> > > You can say:

> > >

> > > I can see now why you could be right by accusing me

> > > Of wanting to be right and make you wrong.

> > >

> > > Sometimes I don't see it.

> > >

> > > Can we meet and make love?

> > > (Well, that is my version, J, you can end it deferently)

> > >

> > > T

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- I found examples of how my turnaround

> is

> > true!

> > >

> > > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

> > she

> > > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what

has

> > > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> > love

> > > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

> cause

> > > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

> > Anyway,

> > > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

> either.

> > >

> > > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

> mostly

> > > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

> > did

> > > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > > about me!

> > > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> > arrogent

> > > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

> am

> > > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

> not

> > > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

> As

> > > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

> my

> > > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was

arrogant

> > was

> > > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

> me)

> > I

> > > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never

wanted

> > to

> > > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

> came

> > > over me that I never expected.

> > > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

> can't

> > > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

> > did,

> > > would it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

J

Don't give me the talk

I have my needs, I need to label you

And I trust you more when it comes to you.

Are you gay or not?

Trust me, I have no preferences

I just want to know

And if you are not comfortable in sharing this information with me

Just say:

I am not going to share this information with you, and I love you (how could

you not?)

T

-- I found examples of how my turnaround

> is

> > true!

> > >

> > > Last week I did some work on how a friend of mine accused me of

> > > wanting to be " right " and make her " wrong " when I explained how

> > she

> > > didnt understand how katie uses the work in cases of abuse. She

> > > thinks is cruel and wants to blame the victim for what

has

> > > happened! I tried to explain to her how is the epitome of

> > love

> > > and compassion, but is teaching people how the mind works to

> cause

> > > suffering, and that we can investigate it and find freedom.

> > Anyway,

> > > my friend was sooo pissed at me. I never even wrote her back. I

> > > didnt want to defend myself, yet I could not agree with her

> either.

> > >

> > > I couldnt honestly see how I wanted to be right, we just were

> > > sharing our ideas, very much like people do on this list. I

> mostly

> > > just enjoy hearing my own ideas for my benefit, not for hers. I

> > did

> > > finally realize that I wanted to be right about her being wrong

> > > about me!

> > > I recently did inquiry again on a similar thought: Carol is

> > arrogent

> > > and self-righteous. This time, when I got to the turnaround, I

> am

> > > arrogent and self-righteous, I was able to find examples, just

> not

> > > where I had been looking for them. In fact, they were obvious!

> As

> > > soon as I realized it, I felt the thoughts leave me, a loss of

> my

> > > identity. It was very surprising. The place where I was

arrogant

> > was

> > > when I visited Carol a few years ago( she lives very far from

> me)

> > I

> > > thought that her house, and the way she lived was disgusting!

> > > Everything was cluttered and messy, and looked awful. Another

> > > example of my arrogance was when I left I thought I never

wanted

> > to

> > > talk to her again, because she has been so irritable, angry and

> > > moody most of the time, it was awful being around her. When I

> > > realized how judgemental I was being, this peace and freedom

> came

> > > over me that I never expected.

> > > The only thing I am confused about now is what to do next. I

> can't

> > > report my findings, because that would just insult her. I never

> > > actually said a single word about my judgements, I only thought

> > > them. It wouldnt make sense to apologize for something I never

> > did,

> > > would it?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >