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You guys are thinking way too hard about my question!! (although I

do appreciate the point you are making)

All I wanted to know is whether knows about her past strictly

from what others have told her, or whether any of this information

comes from within. In all I have read she says that she only know

about her former life from others, and I wondered whether this may

have changed at a later time.

Love

> > After her awakening, has said that she only knew about

her

> past

> > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come back

on

> its

> > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my past in

a

> > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another person

> > entirely.

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Dear ,

Thinking too hard? No wonder my head aches. :)

The simple answer to your question is apparently no.

Blessings, Steve D.

> > > After her awakening, has said that she only knew about

> her

> > past

> > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come back

> on

> > its

> > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my past

in

> a

> > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another person

> > > entirely.

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Ha ha! Thank you for indulging me with a simpler answer, Steve. If I

were looking for an explanation for 's memory loss, another

possible cause is discussed in A Cry In the Desert. is asked

whether she was a walk-in (a new soul changing places with the old),

and she does apparently admit to this, although not with alot of

conviction. I always have to take into account that answers

questions from her own state of conscioussness, and her answers may

mean something different from the intention of the person who is

asking. But after it was explained to what a walk-in was, she

did seem to accept that she was one. Who knows? I am not aware of

any other holy people who have claimed total loss of recogition or

memory of their former selves, only a loss of identity with that

self, so maybe is a walkin. It would explain alot of other

things about her, too.

Love

> > > > After her awakening, has said that she only knew

about

> > her

> > > past

> > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come

back

> > on

> > > its

> > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my

past

> in

> > a

> > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another

person

> > > > entirely.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi ,

Thanks for reminding me about the " walk-in " reference in Cry In The

Desert. In Losing The Moon, makes statements like:

" I came in brand new at 46 years old. " and " I came in

backwards. " " People are trying to go from Earth to Heaven and I came

from Heaven to Earth. " She says she came back for herself out of

self love and she add, " who wouldn't? " . Of course that means she

came back to earth for all of us.

Blessings, Steve D.

> > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only knew

> about

> > > her

> > > > past

> > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come

> back

> > > on

> > > > its

> > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my

> past

> > in

> > > a

> > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another

> person

> > > > > entirely.

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> > > > >

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Oh my God, that is beautiful! She is such a mystery. I still could

not say for sure whether she is admitting to being a walkin, but she

might be?

> > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only knew

> > about

> > > > her

> > > > > past

> > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever

come

> > back

> > > > on

> > > > > its

> > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my

> > past

> > > in

> > > > a

> > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another

> > person

> > > > > > entirely.

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Did you notice in A Cry In The Desert where she is asked about being

an incarnation of Jesus? It is not real clear but seems to

indicate that she and the Christ are one, but then again, that is

true for all of us as well.

Love, Steve D.

> > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only

knew

> > > about

> > > > > her

> > > > > > past

> > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever

> come

> > > back

> > > > > on

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about

my

> > > past

> > > > in

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another

> > > person

> > > > > > > entirely.

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Yes, Steve, I did notice that, and I thought it was powerful. In my

own personal and highly subjective opinion, even before I read this,

I felt that is Jesus Christ. I felt it strongly. I have been

around other saints and masters, and have never had that thought

before. Maybe it is simply because she is the fullfillment of The

Christ's teachings. I don't know. But I do not see any difference

between her and Christ.

Love

> > > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only

> knew

> > > > about

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever

> > come

> > > > back

> > > > > > on

> > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

about

> my

> > > > past

> > > > > in

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

another

> > > > person

> > > > > > > > entirely.

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Thank you for sharing your feelings about this. I can't wait until

you get to sit with her and look into her eyes and she says " I am you

sweetheart. " Or " you're the One, sweetheart. " Be sure to get a big

hug and an autograph for your book.

Love, Steve D.

> > > > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only

> > knew

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory

ever

> > > come

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

> about

> > my

> > > > > past

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

> another

> > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > entirely.

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> ,

>

> Thank you for sharing your feelings about this. I can't wait

> until you get to sit with her and look into her eyes and she

> says " I am you sweetheart. " Or " you're the One, sweetheart. " Be

> sure to get a big hug and an autograph for your book.

>

Of course you realize that your Work is not done until you

can sit with and she says " Piss off, sweetheart " and you find

that remark funny.

Hmmm .... don't expect that will do that, so I guess that's

why they say our enemies are really our best teachers.

Have a beautiful day :)

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

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This is an intersting story, and supported by the fact the Krishnamurti died

at just about the same time that " awakened " and he died in a location

very close to at that time. I love that story - is a walk in

of Krishnamurti. It could be true. And what difference does it make in the

long run?

Ric

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: Loving-what-is

>Subject: Re: Did ever get her memory back?

>Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:51:02 -0000

>

>

>

>

>

>Ha ha! Thank you for indulging me with a simpler answer, Steve. If I

>

>were looking for an explanation for 's memory loss, another

>

>possible cause is discussed in A Cry In the Desert. is asked

>

>whether she was a walk-in (a new soul changing places with the old),

>

>and she does apparently admit to this, although not with alot of

>

>conviction. I always have to take into account that answers

>

>questions from her own state of conscioussness, and her answers may

>

>mean something different from the intention of the person who is

>

>asking. But after it was explained to what a walk-in was, she

>

>did seem to accept that she was one. Who knows? I am not aware of

>

>any other holy people who have claimed total loss of recogition or

>

>memory of their former selves, only a loss of identity with that

>

>self, so maybe is a walkin. It would explain alot of other

>

>things about her, too.

>

>Love

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > >   After her awakening, has said that she only knew

>

>about

>

> > > her

>

> > > > past

>

> > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come

>

>back

>

> > > on

>

> > > > its

>

> > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my

>

>past

>

> > in

>

> > > a

>

> > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another

>

>person

>

> > > > > entirely.

>

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These posts remind me of sitting at 's feet at the School in October

and I had the image of the disciples sitting at the feet of Christ, and I

had the thought, " this is the second coming. I sit at the feet of the

master, and the master and I are one. " I also had the thought that it is

not personal. In other words it is not about , the person, but about

the awakening of the Christ Consciousness, if you will, in her and in all of

us. This is the same consciousness, it seems to me that has awakened in

Eckhart Tolle, and in Gangagi, and is " flowering in human consciousness " at

this time as Tolle puts itl, because it has to or perish. I see " The Work "

as a process by which we are now all able to " awaken " into the truth (christ

consciousness), or not.

When I believe these stories I feel excited and in awe. Can I really know

they are true? No. Do I need to? No. In reality just breathing is just as

much a miracle. Did you notice?

Ric

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: Loving-what-is

>Subject: Re: Did ever get her memory back?

>Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:18:04 -0000

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>Thank you for sharing your feelings about this.  I can't wait until

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>you get to sit with her and look into her eyes and she says " I am you

>

>sweetheart. "   Or " you're the One, sweetheart. "   Be sure to get a big

>

>hug and an autograph for your book.

>

>

>

>Love, Steve D.

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> > > > > > > > > >   After her awakening, has said that she only

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> > > knew

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> > > > > > > > her

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> > > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory

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>ever

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> > > > come

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> > > > > > back

>

> > > > > > > > on

>

> > > > > > > > > its

>

> > > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

>

> > about

>

> > > my

>

> > > > > > past

>

> > > > > > > in

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> > > > > > > > a

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> > > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

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Tami.. I know this is not related exactly..KAtie probably just

forgot.. but when i was at a Self REalization Center i asked one of

the nuns if i could take her picture and she said no but i will take a

picture of you.. and so she did and i was alone.

I think it is consistent with not being egotistical or being humble

but i dont know if that had anything to do with what happened to you.

its a story i suppose,

love, rh

-- In Loving-what-is ,

wrote:

>

> isn't it great that it's not necessary to trust anyone else's word

to be happy....

>

> Tamar Fattal wrote: I have heard say something

like:

>

> " Tami, come to me after my last lecture (at the school)

> and you could have a picture with me " .

>

> I trusted her word, came to her after her last lecture

> but she was gone.

>

> So, I wouldn't trust a word this women say's

> she is like me: living the moment, and has no past.

>

> T

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> -- Re: Did ever get her memory back?

>

> I have heard katie say something like ~ there is no such thing as

memory,

> only the thought arising in this moment.

>

> wrote: After her awakening, has said that

> she only knew about her past

> from what other people told her. Did her memory ever come back on its

> own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew about my past in a

> vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to another person

> entirely.

>

>

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I would say Theres no difference between Jesus Christ and all the

great masters.. Flo used to draw a diagram on the blackboard of a

mountain and paths up the mountain at the bottom all religions are far

apart and seem separate but as a person gets closer to the top of the

mountain (destination -God ) The paths all narrow and become as one

and all relgions seem to be alike and without separation.

Im sure all the masters of all religions totally agree and arent in

any way separate and yet the people of every religion who are not very

far along or at the bottom of the mountain see only separation and

differences.

I know we are suppose to be one but i have not had that realization.

I have read of gurus who took over someones body and were walk ins.

I'm a little disappointed because i want to beleive katie over came

her negative state on her own. And yet that seems to be the only

explanation for her poor memory. ANd who cares how the work came about

only that it did. And so many have been helped and have overcome

negative states. So there are examples

MAria,i think you should be a counselor not go to one.. and yet maybe

you could do both or counsel your counselor. guess im in your business

love, rh

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

>

> Yes, Steve, I did notice that, and I thought it was powerful. In my

> own personal and highly subjective opinion, even before I read this,

> I felt that is Jesus Christ. I felt it strongly. I have been

> around other saints and masters, and have never had that thought

> before. Maybe it is simply because she is the fullfillment of The

> Christ's teachings. I don't know. But I do not see any difference

> between her and Christ.

> Love

>

>

> > > > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she only

> > knew

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory ever

> > > come

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

> about

> > my

> > > > > past

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

> another

> > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > entirely.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she

only

> > > knew

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory

ever

> > > > come

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

> > about

> > > my

> > > > > > past

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

> > another

> > > > > > person

> > > > > > > > > > entirely.

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Hi,

I agree that 's appeal is that she was just a regular neurotic

person like us before her experience. I think there are enough Avatars

ect. floating around the spiritual scence spouting unverifiable and

contradictory stuff that we don't need another one.

The memory loss and can be explained by the mental breakdown/shift that

she underwent so quickly.

Mark

> I have read of gurus who took over someones body and were walk ins.

> I'm a little disappointed because i want to beleive katie over came

> her negative state on her own. And yet that seems to be the only

> explanation for her poor memory. ANd who cares how the work came about

> only that it did. And so many have been helped and have overcome

> negative states. So there are examples

>> love, rh

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YEs .. I think youd make a great counselor because you have been there

and you have something that has worked.

how many can say that? not many i bet.

love,roslyn -

-- In Loving-what-is , " " wrote:

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> > > > > > > > > > > After her awakening, has said that she

> only

> > > > knew

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > her

> > > > > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory

> ever

> > > > > come

> > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > on

> > > > > > > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

> > > about

> > > > my

> > > > > > > past

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

> > > another

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Hi ,

A person with bipolarity and on sick leave for two years cannot be a

counselor. Is that true? Can you absolutly know that it is true? How do

you react when you believe this thought? Who would you be without it? Turn

it around. Does the turn around feel as true or truer? If not, I invite

you to go back and ask again, Can you really know that it is true that a

person with bipolarity and on sick leave for two years cannot be a

counselor. Where is your proof? Turn it around. Is that as true or truer?

Until it is, your work is not done.

Do you have a friend you can call that also does the work? If so you could

call them and agree to take turns facilitating each other, so you can get a

feel for it.

In my experience the answer to your question is yes, but until you

self-realize, it it won't feel true for you.

I love that you are pondering facilitating the work and I'll do anything I

can to support you in that and encourage you in that .

love,

Ric

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: Loving-what-is

>Subject: Re: Did ever get her memory back?

>Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:58:44 -0000

>

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>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > > > > > > >   After her awakening, has said that she

>

>only

>

> > > > knew

>

> > > > > > > about

>

> > > > > > > > > her

>

> > > > > > > > > > past

>

> > > > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her memory

>

>ever

>

> > > > > come

>

> > > > > > > back

>

> > > > > > > > > on

>

> > > > > > > > > > its

>

> > > > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still knew

>

> > > about

>

> > > > my

>

> > > > > > > past

>

> > > > > > > > in

>

> > > > > > > > > a

>

> > > > > > > > > > > vague sort of way, but as if it had happened to

>

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> > > > > > > > > > > >   After her awakening, has said that

she

> >

> >only

> >

> > > > > knew

> >

> > > > > > > > about

> >

> > > > > > > > > > her

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > past

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > from what other people told her. Did her

memory

> >

> >ever

> >

> > > > > > come

> >

> > > > > > > > back

> >

> > > > > > > > > > on

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > its

> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > own? When I had my mini-awakening, I still

knew

> >

> > > > about

> >

> > > > > my

> >

> > > > > > > > past

> >

> > > > > > > > > in

> >

> > > > > > > > > > a

> >

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