Re: OT: herxheimer reactions

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Member,Herxes are evidence of a good thing: that pathogens have been killed, but their dead are now toxins which can cause all sorts of symptoms and challenge the detox organs. This is why one needs to strike a balance between killing and detox, as intense herxes aren't something we go for. Mild ones are best: gentle indicators that we're on the right track without incapacitating us. Slow and steady wins this race. If a herx is intense, ramp up detox and back off killing for a bit. Be well, member called Léna Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group: I had listened earlier this evening to a free webinar on Candida over-growth and cleansing. One of the speakers on this webinar mentioned about herxheimer reactions with trying to clear candida overgrowth. The person said something like that a herxheimer reaction was actually a reaction that poisons oneself. So, my impression prior to her saying this was that a herxheimer reaction was actually a good thing...that whatever protocol is working. However, according to what she was saying, it sounded like she was saying this was not a good thing. So, I would like to hear what others might say about this concept she was commmunicating...is a herxheimer reaction at all (with Lyme Disease or anything else) actually okay (or even a good thing) if in moderation or is it not good at all? Sincerely, in Christ Jesus, member

[Guest guest]

Herx reactions, if overwhelming, are not a good thing. They cause inflammation

which can damage tissues. Herxes should be managed and the treatment(s) that

caused them should be cut back if the die-off is difficult.

I had die-off from candida treatment and in my case, it led to suicidal

thoughts. This was due to a prescription med (diflucan) and when I stopped

taking it, the depression/suicidal thoughts went away. So die-off can lead to

chemical changes in the brain which affect mood, etc.

deb

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> Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:

> I had listened earlier this evening to a free webinar on Candida

over-growth and cleansing. One of the speakers on this webinar mentioned about

herxheimer reactions with trying to clear candida overgrowth. The person said

something like that a herxheimer reaction was actually a reaction that poisons

oneself. So, my impression prior to her saying this was that a herxheimer

reaction was actually a good thing...that whatever protocol is working. However,

according to what she was saying, it sounded like she was saying this was not a

good thing. So, I would like to hear what others might say about this concept

she was commmunicating...is a herxheimer reaction at all (with Lyme Disease or

anything else) actually okay (or even a good thing) if in moderation or is it

not good at all?

> Sincerely, in Christ Jesus,

> member

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Member,

The die of the herxeimer is often a bad time we have to go throught . Bu tit can be very dangerous if not kept in control . So we learn to know how ou rbody react and to adpat our killing protocol to ou rbody detoxifications possibility . Being cuatious is a necessity tha ti swhy we began very slowly an dincreases as we see that we can . also we need to pile up all the way of detoxification that we can find to help ou rbody to get rid of toxic dy off .

for the yeast the coletesteramine is often used to absorb the toxines in th egut in order to stop the reabsorbtion by th eintestine of the toxines eliminated in the intestine by the liver throught the bile .

Cholestepure also do the ssame without aspartame.

You can find all sor tof detox here charcoal coffe aenema clay welchol aenemas colonics depending how it works for you will have to try every thign until you find th emost appropriate and affordabel way to detox for you .

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:40 PMSubject: Re: OT: herxheimer reactions

Herx reactions, if overwhelming, are not a good thing. They cause inflammation which can damage tissues. Herxes should be managed and the treatment(s) that caused them should be cut back if the die-off is difficult.I had die-off from candida treatment and in my case, it led to suicidal thoughts. This was due to a prescription med (diflucan) and when I stopped taking it, the depression/suicidal thoughts went away. So die-off can lead to chemical changes in the brain which affect mood, etc.deb>> Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:> I had listened earlier this evening to a free webinar on Candida over-growth and cleansing. One of the speakers on this webinar mentioned about herxheimer reactions with

trying to clear candida overgrowth. The person said something like that a herxheimer reaction was actually a reaction that poisons oneself. So, my impression prior to her saying this was that a herxheimer reaction was actually a good thing...that whatever protocol is working. However, according to what she was saying, it sounded like she was saying this was not a good thing. So, I would like to hear what others might say about this concept she was commmunicating...is a herxheimer reaction at all (with Lyme Disease or anything else) actually okay (or even a good thing) if in moderation or is it not good at all?> Sincerely, in Christ Jesus,> member>

[Guest guest]

That is perfectly explained like always Lena,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:40 AMSubject: Re: OT: herxheimer reactions

Member,

Herxes are evidence of a good thing: that pathogens have been killed, but their dead are now toxins which can cause all sorts of symptoms and challenge the detox organs.

This is why one needs to strike a balance between killing and detox, as intense herxes aren't something we go for. Mild ones are best: gentle indicators that we're on the right track without incapacitating us. Slow and steady wins this race. If a herx is intense, ramp up detox and back off killing for a bit.

Be well,

member called Léna

Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:I had listened earlier this evening to a free webinar on Candida over-growth and cleansing. One of the speakers on this webinar mentioned about herxheimer reactions with trying to clear candida overgrowth. The person said something like that a herxheimer reaction was actually a reaction that poisons oneself. So, my impression prior to her saying this was that a herxheimer reaction was actually a good thing...that whatever protocol is working. However, according to what she was saying, it sounded like she was saying this was not a good thing. So, I would like to hear what others might say about this concept she was commmunicating...is a herxheimer reaction at all (with Lyme Disease or anything else) actually okay (or even a good thing) if in moderation or is it not good at all?Sincerely, in Christ Jesus,member

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to clarify, only the cholestyramine-light uses aspartame, not the regular. The regular cholestyramine uses sucrose. I use the cholestyramine, but I would NEVER use it if it had aspartame in it. We have enough poisons to deal with without purposely putting more there.

I use it from time-to-time, and it does help reduce the Herx. Activated charcoal though tends to work MUCH better, but doesn't last quite as long as cholestyramine.

Jim T

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Hello Member,

The die of the herxeimer is often a bad time we have to go throught . Bu tit can be very dangerous if not kept in control . So we learn to know how ou rbody react and to adpat our killing protocol to ou rbody detoxifications possibility . Being cuatious is a necessity tha ti swhy we began very slowly an dincreases as we see that we can . also we need to pile up all the way of detoxification that we can find to help ou rbody to get rid of toxic dy off .

for the yeast the coletesteramine is often used to absorb the toxines in th egut in order to stop the reabsorbtion by th eintestine of the toxines eliminated in the intestine by the liver throught the bile .

Cholestepure also do the ssame without aspartame.

You can find all sor tof detox here charcoal coffe aenema clay welchol aenemas colonics depending how it works for you will have to try every thing until you find th emost appropriate and affordabel way to detox for you .

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:40 PMSubject: Re: OT: herxheimer reactions

Herx reactions, if overwhelming, are not a good thing. They cause inflammation which can damage tissues. Herxes should be managed and the treatment(s) that caused them should be cut back if the die-off is difficult.I had die-off from candida treatment and in my case, it led to suicidal thoughts. This was due to a prescription med (diflucan) and when I stopped taking it, the depression/suicidal thoughts went away. So die-off can lead to chemical changes in the brain which affect mood, etc.deb>> Dear Lyme and Rife yahoo group:> I had listened earlier this evening to a free webinar on Candida over-growth and cleansing. One of the speakers on this webinar mentioned about herxheimer reactions with trying to clear candida overgrowth. The person said something like that a herxheimer reaction was actually a reaction that poisons oneself. So, my impression prior to her saying this was that a herxheimer reaction was actually a good thing...that whatever protocol is working. However, according to what she was saying, it sounded like she was saying this was not a good thing. So, I would like to hear what others might say about this concept she was commmunicating...is a herxheimer reaction at all (with Lyme Disease or anything else) actually okay (or even a good thing) if in moderation or is it not good at all?> Sincerely, in Christ Jesus,> member>