Re: Re: thanks tamar for the book - LTWOBK

[Guest guest]

Love,

why do you answer your questions to yourself?

That MAY keep him from finding his own answers, don't you think?

Obviously you don't think it is harmful, because you wouldn't do

anything that MAY be harmful to someone, right?

Talking to about what you think Uvie's girlfriend meant when

she said what she said to Uvie... seems to be a " waste " of time. AND

has nothing to do with inquiry.

Agree?

And I love you, anyway.

> OK , lets look at this, shall we?

>

> So could we summarize it and simply say, LTWOBK is all-knowing and

> arrogant. Now where's your proof?

>

> I posted two pieces from 's book " All war belongs on paper "

> which as I read them say that if you are going to be honest with

> others you should ask whether or not they want to hear it, and

> secondly that I don't say anything if I have a story that it could

> hurt their feelings (even though I am fully aware that the only

> thing that can really hurt anothers feelings is their thoughts).

> Such is the practice of honesty according to Byron .

>

> Uvie apparently read " All war belongs on paper " and decided that

> being honest meant that he could share his projections of his

> girlfriend that she was proud, critical and boring. Now given the

> quotes from I don't think that is was she was saying at all.

>

> Now where am I being all-knowing and arrogant? I simply pointed out

> to Uvie that his actions were inconsistent with 's

> recommendations on honesty.

>

> PS. After investigation I have NEVER found an all-knowing or

> arrogant person not even Bush!

>

> Have an awesome day

>

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[Guest guest]

hi LTW,

you seem to know so much. you seem to know when people are misunderstanding

their own truth. you seem to know when people are misunderstanding the

Work. you seem to know when people have felt or caused more hurt than is

necessary. i'm not saying you don't know, because i wouldn't know that...but

how do

you know so well? do you ever NOT know? i'm asking you sincerely, because

in my judgement, you seem very " all-knowing " . which feels extremely arrogant

to me. i don't worship katie as " all-knowing " , and i don't worship you as

that either. i don't think katie worships herself as " all-knowing " . she

speaks of HER own truth, which (i'm sure she'd say) is no higher or lower than

anyone else's.

just some thoughts ; )

jeremy

In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:13:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

>

> hi,

> I only told her after she asked me to tell her the truth... she

> for one has always been completely honest with me, and she really

> wanted to hear it...

Hmmm .... she may have said that she really wanted to hear your

projections, but I still would not have shared them if I had even

the smallest thought that they could have hurt her.

Before I shared my projections of someone being proud, critical,

boring etc. I would inquire and see if they were really true. Could

have saved both you and your girlfriend a lot of suffering.

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

Well put, Golden !

-- Re: Re: thanks tamar for the book - LTWOBK

hi LTW,

you seem to know so much. you seem to know when people are

misunderstanding

their own truth. you seem to know when people are misunderstanding the

Work. you seem to know when people have felt or caused more hurt than is

necessary. i'm not saying you don't know, because i wouldn't know that..

but how do

you know so well? do you ever NOT know? i'm asking you sincerely, because

in my judgement, you seem very " all-knowing " . which feels extremely

arrogant

to me. i don't worship katie as " all-knowing " , and i don't worship you as

that either. i don't think katie worships herself as " all-knowing " . she

speaks of HER own truth, which (i'm sure she'd say) is no higher or lower

than

anyone else's.

just some thoughts ; )

jeremy

In a message dated 3/1/2006 8:13:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

>

> hi,

> I only told her after she asked me to tell her the truth... she

> for one has always been completely honest with me, and she really

> wanted to hear it...

Hmmm .... she may have said that she really wanted to hear your

projections, but I still would not have shared them if I had even

the smallest thought that they could have hurt her.

Before I shared my projections of someone being proud, critical,

boring etc. I would inquire and see if they were really true. Could

have saved both you and your girlfriend a lot of suffering.

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

thank you for replying Love!

i have no proof for my statements. your writings sometimes consist of a

certain 'flavour' to me, which is the taste of arrogance. i admit it. i'm

arrogant sometimes. i can't seem to help it. sometimes i really do think i

know

better than someone else, and that they would be so much better off if they

could just see things MY way. my view can be unmoving. my view can feel

" right " . so, all-knowing and arrogant...these are MY characteristics.

and i just wonder if you can relate? and if you can, why? and would you

admit it?

jeremy, playing a friendly little game with you.

In a message dated 3/2/2006 5:48:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

>

>

> hi LTW,

>

> you seem to know so much. you seem to know when people are

> misunderstanding their own truth. you seem to know when people

> are misunderstanding the Work. you seem to know when people have

> felt or caused more hurt than is necessary. i'm not saying you

> don't know, because i wouldn't know that...but how do

> you know so well? do you ever NOT know? i'm asking you

> sincerely, because in my judgement, you seem very " all-knowing " .

> which feels extremely arrogant to me. i don't worship katie

> as " all-knowing " , and i don't worship you as that either. i

> don't think katie worships herself as " all-knowing " . she

> speaks of HER own truth, which (i'm sure she'd say) is no higher

> or lower than anyone else's.

>

OK , lets look at this, shall we?

So could we summarize it and simply say, LTWOBK is all-knowing and

arrogant. Now where's your proof?

I posted two pieces from 's book " All war belongs on paper "

which as I read them say that if you are going to be honest with

others you should ask whether or not they want to hear it, and

secondly that I don't say anything if I have a story that it could

hurt their feelings (even though I am fully aware that the only

thing that can really hurt anothers feelings is their thoughts).

Such is the practice of honesty according to Byron .

Uvie apparently read " All war belongs on paper " and decided that

being honest meant that he could share his projections of his

girlfriend that she was proud, critical and boring. Now given the

quotes from I don't think that is was she was saying at all.

Now where am I being all-knowing and arrogant? I simply pointed out

to Uvie that his actions were inconsistent with 's

recommendations on honesty.

PS. After investigation I have NEVER found an all-knowing or

arrogant person not even Bush!

Have an awesome day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

well, i do find some gems in your posts sometimes.

you know, the " pearls " you cast before the " swine " ?

now how could anyone find that arrogant?

and i was just wondering if you could find it. it has nothing to do w/ the

more important issues at hand here. you are very interesting to me, and i

had an agenda to get a more vulnerable conversation out of you. but i think i

have ADD, because i've lost interest for the moment.

looking forward to reading your gems,

In a message dated 3/2/2006 6:31:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

Honestly I try not to concern myself with how I may appear to

others. I could say the most loving things and still be accused of

being arrogant and all-knowing.

What are important are the ideas that are being discussed. To many

those ideas are so frightening that they will defend against them in

any way they can, LOL ... even going so far as to delete quotes they

don't like. If you just focus on the points I am trying to make and

disregard the " flavour " you may find a few gems that you never

noticed before.

So let the games continue, or not!

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

you mean jesus wasn't actually saying in exasperation, " these people are like

pigs, too morbidly stupid and completely narcissistic to even understand,

much less actually absorb, the precious gems of wisdom i'm doling out. " ? huh.

my mistake! [/sarcasm]

Love, you are truly one in a million, and i love you for it! i have a story

that you don't generally practice what you preach all the time, but then,

who the hell does? certainly not me. i guess all i know right now is that i'm

glad you're here because you are so interesting and provocative (it just so

happens one of my favorite things is to be provoked ; )), and you make my

life more rich. thank you for that.

i genuinely look forward to your contributions here.

have a wonderful night my friend!

jeremy,

p.s. have you considered a career in politics? i think you would

excell...; )

In a message dated 3/2/2006 9:10:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

LOL ... Don't blame the " casting pearls before swine " quote on me

that one came from Jesus (New Testament) and we all know how

arrogant and all-knowing he was! I don't think Jesus was really

calling anyone a swine it was just a colourful metaphor to refer to

someone who was caught in believing unexamined thoughts. Then again

who knows if Jesus even really used the word " swine " , the

translations between Aramaic and English are not that good.

I think the statement was simply a warning to the disciples not to

share their insights with others before they were ready to

understand them. Timely advice then, and timely advice now and not

at all arrogant. See ... another gem for you collection from the

humble as dust LTWOBK.

Have a peaceful day

" Eventually, every Band-Aid stops working, and our painful thoughts

ooze out. Only the truth can set us free, only the truth can stop

the pain, and only with the truth can we be truly intimate. " Byron

[Guest guest]

J

I have a question to you

I am arrogant too, but you told me that you like me and I have never upset

you.

What is the deferent between love and me?

Why his arrogant you cannot stand

and mine you love?

T

-- Re: Re: thanks tamar for the book - LTWOBK

thank you for replying Love!

i have no proof for my statements. your writings sometimes consist of a

certain 'flavour' to me, which is the taste of arrogance. i admit it. i'm

arrogant sometimes. i can't seem to help it. sometimes i really do think

i know

better than someone else, and that they would be so much better off if they

could just see things MY way. my view can be unmoving. my view can feel

" right " . so, all-knowing and arrogant...these are MY characteristics.

and i just wonder if you can relate? and if you can, why? and would you

admit it?

jeremy, playing a friendly little game with you.

In a message dated 3/2/2006 5:48:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lovetheworkofbk@... writes:

>

>

> hi LTW,

>

> you seem to know so much. you seem to know when people are

> misunderstanding their own truth. you seem to know when people

> are misunderstanding the Work. you seem to know when people have

> felt or caused more hurt than is necessary. i'm not saying you

> don't know, because i wouldn't know that...but how do

> you know so well? do you ever NOT know? i'm asking you

> sincerely, because in my judgement, you seem very " all-knowing " .

> which feels extremely arrogant to me. i don't worship katie

> as " all-knowing " , and i don't worship you as that either. i

> don't think katie worships herself as " all-knowing " . she

> speaks of HER own truth, which (i'm sure she'd say) is no higher

> or lower than anyone else's.

>

OK , lets look at this, shall we?

So could we summarize it and simply say, LTWOBK is all-knowing and

arrogant. Now where's your proof?

I posted two pieces from 's book " All war belongs on paper "

which as I read them say that if you are going to be honest with

others you should ask whether or not they want to hear it, and

secondly that I don't say anything if I have a story that it could

hurt their feelings (even though I am fully aware that the only

thing that can really hurt anothers feelings is their thoughts).

Such is the practice of honesty according to Byron .

Uvie apparently read " All war belongs on paper " and decided that

being honest meant that he could share his projections of his

girlfriend that she was proud, critical and boring. Now given the

quotes from I don't think that is was she was saying at all.

Now where am I being all-knowing and arrogant? I simply pointed out

to Uvie that his actions were inconsistent with 's

recommendations on honesty.

PS. After investigation I have NEVER found an all-knowing or

arrogant person not even Bush!

Have an awesome day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron

[Guest guest]

" So let the games continue, or not! "

Game?

Did I miss anything?

I want to play too and seems I am the real arrogant person here

and I am a brat too, this time I want to be on TOP!

T

>

> thank you for replying Love!

>

> i have no proof for my statements. your writings sometimes

> consist of a certain 'flavour' to me, which is the taste of

> arrogance. i admit it. i'm arrogant sometimes. i can't seem

> to help it. sometimes i really do think i know

> better than someone else, and that they would be so much better

> off if they could just see things MY way. my view can be

> unmoving. my view can feel " right " . so, all-knowing and

> arrogant...these are MY characteristics.

>

> and i just wonder if you can relate? and if you can, why? and

> would you admit it?

>

> jeremy, playing a friendly little game with you.

>

Honestly I try not to concern myself with how I may appear to

others. I could say the most loving things and still be accused of

being arrogant and all-knowing.

What are important are the ideas that are being discussed. To many

those ideas are so frightening that they will defend against them in

any way they can, LOL ... even going so far as to delete quotes they

don't like. If you just focus on the points I am trying to make and

disregard the " flavour " you may find a few gems that you never

noticed before.

So let the games continue, or not!

Have a beautiful day

" There's nothing between you and love but unquestioned concepts. "

Byron