Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 what is sequential homeopathy? Subject: Re: NystatinTo: mb12 valtrex Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:26 PM Hello,I just wanted to tell you about our particular experience. If I had to do it all over again, I would never start with antifungals. To me, they ended up being a "vicious cycle," and led to even more problems. I was a hardcore believer in them because initially, we saw SUCH amazing improvements. I was thrilled. However, the improvements were always short-term. We had to keep going to stronger antifungals (Difulcan, Sporanox.... Nizoral was ineffective) and then, my son developed Clostridia. What our DAN doctor told us (Dr. Rossignol) is that yeast and clostridia have an ongoing battle in his gut and one feeds the other...or something to that effect. The point is, he was taking huge doses of antifungals and getting nowhere. It just wasn't worth it. I also should add that he wasn't eating any refined sugar and very little fruit, so it's not like I was doing anything to perpetuate the yeast. His Clostridia was getting worse and worse (according to tests), even though he was on Culturelle (he was allergic to Flagyl and we didn't want to continue giving him anymore drugs!). What has helped the most (so far) with the yeast has been a new journey and that is sequential homeopathy. In one month, they have gotten his yeast levels to the same point they were at on high doses of Spornaox! I can't say that it's all gone, but I can tell by his tongue, by his behavior and by his sensory perception, how well he's doing with yeast. If you're interested, you can contact me by email and I'll tell you more about it. I just know that I wasted a year doing something that was not a long term solution. However, for many kids, it works great, so please don't think I'm commenting on anyone but my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 they work like a teeter totter. you get one down the other takes over....was he eating carbs? they are worse then sugars as they turn into glucose in the body. for my son the culturell would have made thigns worse with the milk in it messing with his immune system. we did better with high dose probiotics, addressing the immune issues with LDN, and doing high dose biotin for BOTH yeast and clostrida (we had one of those high in both kids as well) Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 Re: Nystatin Hello,I just wanted to tell you about our particular experience. If I had to do it all over again, I would never start with antifungals. To me, they ended up being a "vicious cycle," and led to even more problems. I was a hardcore believer in them because initially, we saw SUCH amazing improvements. I was thrilled. However, the improvements were always short-term. We had to keep going to stronger antifungals (Difulcan, Sporanox....Nizoral was ineffective) and then, my son developed Clostridia. What our DAN doctor told us (Dr. Rossignol) is that yeast and clostridia have an ongoing battle in his gut and one feeds the other...or something to that effect. The point is, he was taking huge doses of antifungals and getting nowhere. It just wasn't worth it. I also should add that he wasn't eating any refined sugar and very little fruit, so it's not like I was doing anything to perpetuate the yeast. His Clostridia was getting worse and worse (according to tests), even though he was on Culturelle (he was allergic to Flagyl and we didn't want to continue giving him anymore drugs!). What has helped the most (so far) with the yeast has been a new journey and that is sequential homeopathy. In one month, they have gotten his yeast levels to the same point they were at on high doses of Spornaox! I can't say that it's all gone, but I can tell by his tongue, by his behavior and by his sensory perception, how well he's doing with yeast. If you're interested, you can contact me by email and I'll tell you more about it. I just know that I wasted a year doing something that was not a long term solution. However, for many kids, it works great, so please don't think I'm commenting on anyone but my son. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Hello lucky mom!Can you tell please what homeopathy are you using?Thanks a lot!MargaritaTo: mb12 valtrex Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:26:44 AMSubject: Re: Nystatin Hello, I just wanted to tell you about our particular experience. If I had to do it all over again, I would never start with antifungals. To me, they ended up being a "vicious cycle," and led to even more problems. I was a hardcore believer in them because initially, we saw SUCH amazing improvements. I was thrilled. However, the improvements were always short-term. We had to keep going to stronger antifungals (Difulcan, Sporanox.... Nizoral was ineffective) and then, my son developed Clostridia. What our DAN doctor told us (Dr. Rossignol) is that yeast and clostridia have an ongoing battle in his gut and one feeds the other...or something to that effect. The point is, he was taking huge doses of antifungals and getting nowhere. It just wasn't worth it. I also should add that he wasn't eating any refined sugar and very little fruit, so it's not like I was doing anything to perpetuate the yeast. His Clostridia was getting worse and worse (according to tests), even though he was on Culturelle (he was allergic to Flagyl and we didn't want to continue giving him anymore drugs!). What has helped the most (so far) with the yeast has been a new journey and that is sequential homeopathy. In one month, they have gotten his yeast levels to the same point they were at on high doses of Spornaox! I can't say that it's all gone, but I can tell by his tongue, by his behavior and by his sensory perception, how well he's doing with yeast. If you're interested, you can contact me by email and I'll tell you more about it. I just know that I wasted a year doing something that was not a long term solution. However, for many kids, it works great, so please don't think I'm commenting on anyone but my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Christel - how much Biotin were/are you giving, how high did you go? they work like a teeter totter. you get one down the other takes over....was he eating carbs? they are worse then sugars as they turn into glucose in the body. for my son the culturell would have made thigns worse with the milk in it messing with his immune system. we did better with high dose probiotics, addressing the immune issues with LDN, and doing high dose biotin for BOTH yeast and clostrida (we had one of those high in both kids as well) Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelking http://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 Re: Nystatin Hello,I just wanted to tell you about our particular experience. If I had to do it all over again, I would never start with antifungals. To me, they ended up being a " vicious cycle, " and led to even more problems. I was a hardcore believer in them because initially, we saw SUCH amazing improvements. I was thrilled. However, the improvements were always short-term. We had to keep going to stronger antifungals (Difulcan, Sporanox....Nizoral was ineffective) and then, my son developed Clostridia. What our DAN doctor told us (Dr. Rossignol) is that yeast and clostridia have an ongoing battle in his gut and one feeds the other...or something to that effect. The point is, he was taking huge doses of antifungals and getting nowhere. It just wasn't worth it. I also should add that he wasn't eating any refined sugar and very little fruit, so it's not like I was doing anything to perpetuate the yeast. His Clostridia was getting worse and worse (according to tests), even though he was on Culturelle (he was allergic to Flagyl and we didn't want to continue giving him anymore drugs!). What has helped the most (so far) with the yeast has been a new journey and that is sequential homeopathy. In one month, they have gotten his yeast levels to the same point they were at on high doses of Spornaox! I can't say that it's all gone, but I can tell by his tongue, by his behavior and by his sensory perception, how well he's doing with yeast. If you're interested, you can contact me by email and I'll tell you more about it. I just know that I wasted a year doing something that was not a long term solution. However, for many kids, it works great, so please don't think I'm commenting on anyone but my son. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM -- Ormonde, L.Ac. www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yes, you can use antibiotics & antifungals. When antibiotics were first being given out the pills were coated in an antifungal. The Pharma companies lobbied the FDA saying that was in fact, 2 drugs and that the Doctors should prescribe the antifungal along with the antibiotic. I've never had a doc do that for me....just a tactic to reduce manufacturing costs. You should also give probiotics as well to make sure that you are putting the good flora back in. As far as I know, you can also use the antivirals with the antifungals but am unsure about antibiotics. Laureen Quoting dmlcannon : > So, what is the solution? Use antifungals and antibiotics at the same > time???? What about antivirals as well? > I think my son developed Yeast due to the Methyl B12 (is that > possible?) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yes it is possible because the MB12 may have corrected the glitch in the methylation pathway, thereby pulling out sequestered mercury (and other toxins) for excretion. However, mercury damages the lining of the GI tract and makes it ripe for candida overgrowth, so if you give MB12 too soon without addressing the gut healing, you may well make things worse before they get better. Marci To: mb12 valtrex From: dmlcannon@...Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:57:26 +0000Subject: Re: Nystatin So, what is the solution? Use antifungals and antibiotics at the same time???? What about antivirals as well?I think my son developed Yeast due to the Methyl B12 (is that possible?) Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hello I am curious as to how long it took you to see improvements in your child and about what percent has your child improved with this center? I was also wondering do you know anyone else personally who has had as much success as you have. I am looking for a great homeopath and their site states that they do phone consults. They state that the symptoms improve greatly in about 5-6 months for about 75%-80%. I live in Arkansas. My son is 6 and has only a few words, but pretty good receptive language and okay cognitively. He was born at 231 /2 weeks, began catching up (pointing,talking,engaging) and regressed. He is pretty social though and has no trouble being around people and gives great eye contact. Thanks for any help! To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:56:23 PMSubject: Re: Nystatin I forgot to add that at Homeopathy Center of Houston (HCH), they have you prepare a timeline of how your child was injured in every way possible: vaccines, illneses, traumas of any kind, etc. Then, they work backwards to "clear" each one. This is a slow process, but is very effective for many (but not all). I also would like to mention that they base their attempts to help our kids by using scientific research conducted by or provided by the DAN doctors. Thus, they clear yeast, they detoxify metals like Mercury, they help out with viral issues, etc.....but, they do it naturally. No drugs. No chelators. In fact, I had to stop GSE and Caprillic acid. Even though they are good and natural, they are harsh on their delicate bodies. I really wanted to post this just to help others. I know that when I started this journey, I wouldn't have been open to something like this at all. I was DAN all the way. However, I wasn't seeing the results I wanted to see and it didn't feel right to give all those drugs to a child who was bad with detoxifying. Take care,Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 To: mb12 valtrex Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 8:57:40 AMSubject: Re: Re: Nystatin Hello I am curious as to how long it took you to see improvements in your child and about what percent has your child improved with this center? I was also wondering do you know anyone else personally who has had as much success as you have. I am looking for a great homeopath and their site states that they do phone consults. They state that the symptoms improve greatly in about 5-6 months for about 75%-80%. I live in Arkansas. My son is 6 and has only a few words, but pretty good receptive language and okay cognitively. He was born at 231 /2 weeks, began catching up (pointing,talking, engaging) and regressed. He is pretty social though and has no trouble being around people and gives great eye contact. Thanks for any help! From: luckymom2d <kootya3gmail (DOT) com>To: mb12 valtrex@ yahoogroups. comSent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:56:23 PMSubject: Re: Nystatin I forgot to add that at Homeopathy Center of Houston (HCH), they have you prepare a timeline of how your child was injured in every way possible: vaccines, illneses, traumas of any kind, etc. Then, they work backwards to "clear" each one. This is a slow process, but is very effective for many (but not all). I also would like to mention that they base their attempts to help our kids by using scientific research conducted by or provided by the DAN doctors. Thus, they clear yeast, they detoxify metals like Mercury, they help out with viral issues, etc.....but, they do it naturally. No drugs. No chelators. In fact, I had to stop GSE and Caprillic acid. Even though they are good and natural, they are harsh on their delicate bodies. I really wanted to post this just to help others. I know that when I started this journey, I wouldn't have been open to something like this at all. I was DAN all the way. However, I wasn't seeing the results I wanted to see and it didn't feel right to give all those drugs to a child who was bad with detoxifying. Take care,Irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 our son does 20 mgs to 25 mgs a day every day.....he has in the past done up to 50 mgs per day in yeast flare days Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwisheshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=677063169 Re: Nystatin Hello,I just wanted to tell you about our particular experience. If I had to do it all over again, I would never start with antifungals. To me, they ended up being a "vicious cycle," and led to even more problems. I was a hardcore believer in them because initially, we saw SUCH amazing improvements. I was thrilled. However, the improvements were always short-term. We had to keep going to stronger antifungals (Difulcan, Sporanox....Nizoral was ineffective) and then, my son developed Clostridia. What our DAN doctor told us (Dr. Rossignol) is that yeast and clostridia have an ongoing battle in his gut and one feeds the other...or something to that effect. The point is, he was taking huge doses of antifungals and getting nowhere. It just wasn't worth it. I also should add that he wasn't eating any refined sugar and very little fruit, so it's not like I was doing anything to perpetuate the yeast. His Clostridia was getting worse and worse (according to tests), even though he was on Culturelle (he was allergic to Flagyl and we didn't want to continue giving him anymore drugs!). What has helped the most (so far) with the yeast has been a new journey and that is sequential homeopathy. In one month, they have gotten his yeast levels to the same point they were at on high doses of Spornaox! I can't say that it's all gone, but I can tell by his tongue, by his behavior and by his sensory perception, how well he's doing with yeast. If you're interested, you can contact me by email and I'll tell you more about it. I just know that I wasted a year doing something that was not a long term solution. However, for many kids, it works great, so please don't think I'm commenting on anyone but my son. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM -- Ormonde, L.Ac.www.AuburnCommunityAcupuncture.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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