Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Not so bizarre really. Hubby does it especially around waxing moon/full moons. He doesnt know why, how to control it or stop even. Almost like the opposite of lyme rage sort of thing. Do you feel anything when it happens? Sadness, anxiety.... just wondering because hubby cannot even pin point a particular emotion when "it" happens. So be rest assured, you are not alone with this. Some LLMDs suggest its due to toxin load in cns...just a side thought.Blessings, BiancaConnected by DROID on Verizon Wireless Mental herxes-meltdown and crying? Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through it. Big help! Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Hi Jodie,There are lots of reasons, mostly chemical/toxin, for the depression, anxiety and insomnia that Lyme can bring. Detox is very important, and anything you can take to bind up toxins, ammonia, and metals is essential, but here's something that REALLY helped me mentally,(besides understanding that it wasn't me, my true self, but some physical process going on in my body).I was continually awakening to an abyss of negativity in the night and in the morning, with despair, anxiety, and frankly, a continuing wish to die. Someone in one of the groups had benefitted from Traditional Chinese medicines (TCMs). In the history of China, docs weren't paid until their patients found relief, so they developed herbal remedies that would balance at the most fundamental level (rather than treating symptoms), and that this balance would usually be established in a month or so. Unfortunately, with Lyme, what the Chinese call 'Toxic Fire', the causes of imbalance go on and on, so a mere month won't do it, but the little teapills will make a tremendous difference for many people if taken regularly. They certainly did for me and I continue to take them daily and always make sure that i've got at least a month's worth stocked ahead.I started taking An Shen Bu Xin Wan (some brands might call it Soothwell) and within 2 weeks the depression, anxiety and mental darkness had lifted noticeably. Others recommended Free and Easy Wanderer, a.k.a. Relaxx, as something that would augment the Bu Xin. They were right, and unlike western anti-depressants, they don't quit on you after a while, and there are no black box warnings of completely opposite effects, like suicide.Some reputable brands: Min Shan, Beijing Tong Ren Tang,Plum Flower, KGS. Some reputable sites from which to order: morningstarhealth.com chineseherbsdirect.comuncleyap.comUnfortunately, some brands discontinue production or shipment from time to time, which threw me into panic until I finally connected with uncleyap.com which, in addition to lots of helpful info on the site, had a phone#! This is usually answered by Rudolph Yap, a very knowledgeable and helpful guy who has helped me continue to get quality products at a good price. (not everything coming out of China is good or safe, but I've come to trust this site and this man)The other things that made a difference for me were Lithium Orotate (not aspartate) and, for mopping ammonia in the brain, Source Natural's K-Mag Kg. These have returned me to my positive, proactive self, and with Lyme, attitude is everything.Hope something here helps.Be well,Léna Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through it. Big help! Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Bianca and lena, Thank-you for your responses! I can tell you that it didn't feel like a depression state....Their was anxiety at time but was just like one major let-loose crying sessions and a lot of mental fog and sinus drainage etc. Just an unraveled feeling...that wouldn't stop! I was told that homeopathy can bring out suppressed emotions as well. It has happened to me twice this last time being the worse. I do think a lot had to due with the amount of immune supports I was on, bringing stuff up to quickly and pushing pretty hard with the MMS together. I am on homeopathic stuff for anxiety and " feel-good " serotonin help. They have helped a lot and most nights sleep well except on occasion. I do however like the suggestions and will save them! The ammonia-mop up...I haven't tried and maybe an issue! I think the detox changes she has made with help as well. Many thanks, Jodie L. > > Not so bizarre really. Hubby does it especially around waxing moon/full > moons. He doesnt know why, how to control it or stop even. Almost like the > opposite of lyme rage sort of thing. Do you feel anything when it happens? > Sadness, anxiety.... just wondering because hubby cannot even pin point a > particular emotion when " it " happens. So be rest assured, you are not alone > with this. Some LLMDs suggest its due to toxin load in cns...just a side > thought. > > Blessings, Bianca > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > Mental herxes-meltdown and crying? > > Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and > could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt > horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot > better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through > it. Big help! > Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels > between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I > need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger > She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a > bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more > and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone > gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this > twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't > stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hi Bianca, Tell hubby crying is very helpful for him! It is a stress releaser and he should feel very good after having a good cry!! If only we could all be so lucky.... Take care, Jim > > Not so bizarre really. Hubby does it especially around waxing moon/full > moons. He doesnt know why, how to control it or stop even. Almost like the > opposite of lyme rage sort of thing. Do you feel anything when it happens? > Sadness, anxiety.... just wondering because hubby cannot even pin point a > particular emotion when " it " happens. So be rest assured, you are not alone > with this. Some LLMDs suggest its due to toxin load in cns...just a side > thought. > > Blessings, Bianca > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless > > Mental herxes-meltdown and crying? > > Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and > could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt > horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot > better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through > it. Big help! > Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels > between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I > need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger > She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a > bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more > and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone > gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this > twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't > stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Jodie - The exact same thing used to happen to me. The crying jags were uncontrollable and long-lasting. They started well before I was diagnosed and then got really severe when I began taking antibiotics. It was really strange, because I'm not typically a crier. Thankfully, they gradually went away. Just know that you're not crazy. It is indeed the lyme bacteria literally messing with your brain. I'd try lithium orotate and see if it helps. Good Luck, > > Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through it. Big help! > Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 i will often cry the day before i start to feel better. not sure if the crying helped release stress/toxins or that it was the last 'hit' of toxins being released and cleared. but my husband and i noticed it became/is a pattern with me. who knows??? barbara Jodie - The exact same thing used to happen to me. The crying jags were uncontrollable and long-lasting. They started well before I was diagnosed and then got really severe when I began taking antibiotics. It was really strange, because I'm not typically a crier. Thankfully, they gradually went away. Just know that you're not crazy. It is indeed the lyme bacteria literally messing with your brain. I'd try lithium orotate and see if it helps. Good Luck, > > Hi, Yesterday was a rough day! When I woke-up I did nothing but cry--and could not stop. I also had lots of sinus drainage, mental fog and felt horrible. I remember now- I did this about a week ago then felt a lot better. Luckily I had a appt. with my homeopath and she helped me through it. Big help! > Then she cut down my immune system supports for the 2nd time, she feels between the MMS (20-22 daily) and doing some (mms-baths 30 drops) that I need to backed off a bit and that my immune system is getting stronger She is also adjusting my detox supports. I take this as good news.. I'm a bit nervous....but I'm cutting back on the MMS for a few to detox a bit more and wait for my new remedies to help clear stuff out. Does/has anyone gotten the mental-crying episodes as part of a big herxe? I have done this twice now. It's like an uncontrollable crying and honestly its like I can't stop and I don't know why its happening. Its bizarre! Jodie L. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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