Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 amla > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works best > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but have > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better even > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still had to > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all my > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 My OB tells me that alternating antifungals is needed to keep the fungus from developing memory, similar to antibiotics. I would suggest getting a culture of your thrush, you may need a different type. My nursing pharmacology book states cultures should always be done, but trying to convince a health care provider may be not so easy. HTH, Debi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 what is amla > > > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works best > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but have > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better even > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still had to > > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all my > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's a fruit that is as strong as Nystatin for fighting candida. It also does much more, (Note that its formal name is Phyllanthus Emblica) " The Niwa Institute of Immunology studies showed that Amla preparations contained high levels of the free-radical scavenger, superoxide dimutase (SOD), in the experimental subjects. Further survey of the medical literature shows that the Amla berry, either in combination with other herbs or alone, has been useful in the amelioration of anemia, diabetes, chronic lung disease, colds, influenza, hypertension, elevated cholesterol levels, and even as an immune restorative in cancer treatment " It's a STRONG ANTIOXIDANT, Experiments conducted on patients with pulmonary tuberculosis showed that the natural vitamin C contained in the Amla berry was more quickly assimilated than synthetic vitamin C; a finding that " certain unknown factors in the fruit may be responsible for this advantage " FREE RADICAL SCAVENGER, " In an animal study, Phyllanthus emblica extracts showed strong free radical scavenging activity. The extract also showed strong inhibition of the production of advanced glycosylated end products. The oral administration of Phyllanthus emblica extracts to diabetic rats slightly improved weight gain and alleviated various oxidative stress indices of the serum of the diabetic rats significantly. " INCREASES GLUTATHIONE, " Significant increases in liver antioxidants, such as glutathione (GSH), glutathione peroxidase (GPx), glutathione reductase (GR) and detoxifying enzyme glutathione-S-transferase (GST), were found in the fruit extract treated group. " " An extract of Phyllanthus emblica fruit reduced the severity of hepatic fibrosis induced by carbon tetrachloride CCl4) and thioacetamide (TAA). Improved liver function was observed by measuring the levels of aspartate aminotransaminase (AST), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), alkaline phosphatase (ALP), and bilirubin in serum. Hepatic parameters monitored were the levels of glutathione (GSH), lipid peroxidation (LPO) and hydroxyproline and the activities of catalase, glutathione peroxidase (GPx), Na+,K+-ATPase, and cytochrome P450 (CYP 450 2E1) (aniline hydroxylation). The results suggested that the Phyllanthus emblica extract reversed the profibrogenic events. This can be rationalized due to the product's powerful antioxidant properties. " GASTROPROTECTIVE, (Candida byproduct is ethanol) " Phyllanthus emblica offered protection against ethanol-induced depletion of stomach wall mucus and reduction in nonprotein sulfhydryl concentration. Histopathological analyses are in good agreement with pharmacological and biochemical findings. The results indicate that Phyllanthus emblica extract possesses anti-secretory, anti-ulcer, and cytoprotective properties. " ETC...there is a lot of info. online about it and I have several articles and studies on it. There was a chart with the article below showing Amla being equal to Nystatin, but I couldn't post it. You can email me if you want more info on it. esoliday@... RELEVANT EXCERPT from below: " Extracts of Phyllanthus emblica L., Terminalia belliirica (Gaertner) Roxb. and Terminalia chebula Retz, showed significant activity against all three dermatophytes. " Pharmaceutical Biology 1388-0209/99/3703-0237$15.00 1999, Vol. 37, No. 3, pp. 237–242 © Swets & Zeitlinger INDIAN MEDICINAL PLANTS: A POTENTIAL SOURCE FOR ANTICANDIDAL DRUGS Zafar Mehmood1, Iqbal Ahmad1, Faiz Mohammad2 and Shamim Ahmad3 1Department of Agricultural Microbiology, Institute of Agriculture, Aligarh Muslim University, Aligarh–202002, India 2Department of Applied Chemistry, A.M.U. Aligarh–202002, India 3Institute of Ophthalmology, J.N. Medical College, A.M.U. Aligarh– 202002, India ABSTRACT Alcoholic and aqueous crude extracts of 37 traditionally- used medicinal plants were screened for antifungal activity against the pathogenic yeast, Candida albicans, and dermatophytes, Epidermophyton floccosum, Microsporum gypseum and Trichophyton rubrum. Alcoholic extracts of these 37 plants were demonstrated to have antifungal activity. Twenty-one extracts showed strong activity and the remaining 16 plants exhibited moderate activity against Candida albicans and to one or more dermatophytes. Such activity was detected in only 16 aqueous extracts. Alcoholic extracts of five medicinal plants were selected for further studies on the basis of their strong anticandidal activity. Minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) values of these five extracts revealed their varied anticandidal potency. MIC values ranged between 4–9 mg/ml. Comparatively high potency was observed in the extracts of Plumbago zeylanica (4mg/ml) followed by Terminalia bellirica and Phyllanthus emblica (7 mg/ml), each Holarrhena antidysentrica (8 mg/ml), and least in Terminalia chebula (9 mg/ml). Preliminary phytochemical analysis of these extracts showed the presence of many biologically active constituents. RESULTS The antifungal activity of aqueous and alcoholic crude extracts of 37 medicinal plants against Candida albicans and one or more dermatophytes at a conc. of 200 mg/ml is shown in Table 1. Anticandidal properties were detected in all 37 alcoholic extracts and only in 16 aqueous extracts. The extent of over all activity against Candida albicans was described in terms of inhibition zone diameters as low (_ 10 mm), moderate (_ 10–15 mm), good (16–19) and strong (20–22 mm) in a total of 3, 13, 6 and 5 plants extract, respectively. Based on maximum activity shown by alcoholic extracts, these extracts were further screened against one or more dermatophytes including Epidermophyton floccosum, Microsporum gypseum and Trichophyton rubrum. Of these 37 alcoholic extracts, 34 exhibited antifungal activity against dermatophytes which was observed as low to moderate as inhibition zones of diameters ranging from 10 to 15 mm. Extracts of Phyllanthus emblica L., Terminalia belliirica (Gaertner) Roxb. and Terminalia chebula Retz, showed significant activity against all three dermatophytes. Antifungal activity of the control drug nystatin (conc. 50 _g/ml) against all test organisms was also determined as shown in Table 1. On the basis of strong activity observed with five plant extracts (Phyllanthus emblica, T. bellirica, Terminalia chebula, H. antidysentrica and Plumbago zeylandica. L.) against Candida albicans, these plants were further selected for MIC determinations. The MIC values ranged from 4–9 mg/ml. The potency of plants extract against Candida albicans is maximum for Plumbago zeylanical (MIC, 4 mg/ml) followed by Phyllanthus emblica, T. bellirica, H. antidysentrica, (MIC, 49 mg/ml) and least for T. chebula. The MIC values were also found as the minimum fungicidal concentration (MFC) as shown in Table 2. Preliminary phytochemical screening of these five highly active plant extracts showed the presence of biologically active substances. Phenolics, tannins and glycodiedes were detected in Phyllanthus emblica, Terminalia bellirica and T. chebula; Flavonoids and saponins in Plumbago zeylanica and alkaloids and steroids in H. antidysentrica. > > > > > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works > best > > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me > > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but > have > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better even > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still had to > > > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all my > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 : Do you know of any problems for people who are sensitive to phenols? To: mb12 valtrex From: elizabethsoliday@...Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:47:46 +0000Subject: Re: What is your favorite anti fungal It's a fruit that is as strong as Nystatin for fighting candida. It also does much more, (Note that its formal name is Phyllanthus Emblica)"The Niwa Institute of Immunology studies showed that Amla preparations contained high levels of the free-radical scavenger, superoxide dimutase (SOD), in the experimental subjects. Further survey of the medical literature shows that the Amla berry, either in combination with other herbs or alone, has been useful in the amelioration of anemia, diabetes, chronic lung disease, colds, influenza, hypertension, elevated cholesterol levels, and even as an immune restorative in cancer treatment"It's a STRONG ANTIOXIDANT,Experiments conducted on patients with pulmonary tuberculosis showed that the natural vitamin C contained in the Amla berry was more quickly assimilated than synthetic vitamin C; a finding that "certain unknown factors in the fruit may be responsible for this advantage"FREE RADICAL SCAVENGER,"In an animal study, Phyllanthus emblica extracts showed strong free radical scavenging activity. The extract also showed strong inhibition of the production of advanced glycosylated end products. The oral administration of Phyllanthus emblica extracts to diabetic rats slightly improved weight gain and alleviated various oxidative stress indices of the serum of the diabetic rats significantly." INCREASES GLUTATHIONE, "Significant increases in liver antioxidants, such as glutathione (GSH), glutathione peroxidase (GPx), glutathione reductase (GR) and detoxifying enzyme glutathione-S-transferase (GST), were found in the fruit extract treated group.""An extract of Phyllanthus emblica fruit reduced the severity of hepatic fibrosis induced by carbon tetrachloride CCl4) and thioacetamide (TAA). Improved liver function was observed by measuring the levels of aspartate aminotransaminase (AST), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), alkaline phosphatase (ALP), and bilirubin in serum. Hepatic parameters monitored were the levels of glutathione (GSH), lipid peroxidation (LPO) and hydroxyproline and the activities of catalase, glutathione peroxidase (GPx), Na+,K+-ATPase, and cytochrome P450 (CYP 450 2E1) (aniline hydroxylation). The results suggested that the Phyllanthus emblica extract reversed the profibrogenic events. This can be rationalized due to the product's powerful antioxidant properties."GASTROPROTECTIVE, (Candida byproduct is ethanol)"Phyllanthus emblica offered protection against ethanol-induced depletion of stomach wall mucus and reduction in nonprotein sulfhydryl concentration. Histopathological analyses are in good agreement with pharmacological and biochemical findings. The results indicate that Phyllanthus emblica extract possesses anti-secretory, anti-ulcer, and cytoprotective properties." ETC...there is a lot of info. online about it and I have several articles and studies on it. There was a chart with the article below showing Amla being equal to Nystatin, but I couldn't post it. You can email me if you want more info on it. esolidaygmailRELEVANT EXCERPT from below:"Extracts of Phyllanthus emblica L., Terminalia belliirica (Gaertner)Roxb. and Terminalia chebula Retz, showed significantactivity against all three dermatophytes."Pharmaceutical Biology 1388-0209/99/3703-0237$15.001999, Vol. 37, No. 3, pp. 237–242 © Swets & ZeitlingerINDIAN MEDICINAL PLANTS: A POTENTIAL SOURCE FORANTICANDIDAL DRUGSZafar Mehmood1, Iqbal Ahmad1, Faiz Mohammad2 and Shamim Ahmad31Department of Agricultural Microbiology, Institute of Agriculture, Aligarh Muslim University,Aligarh–202002, India2Department of Applied Chemistry, A.M.U. Aligarh–202002, India3Institute of Ophthalmology, J.N. Medical College, A.M.U. Aligarh–202002, IndiaABSTRACTAlcoholic and aqueous crude extracts of 37 traditionally-used medicinal plants were screened for antifungalactivity against the pathogenic yeast, Candidaalbicans, and dermatophytes, Epidermophyton floccosum,Microsporum gypseum and Trichophytonrubrum. Alcoholic extracts of these 37 plants weredemonstrated to have antifungal activity. Twenty-oneextracts showed strong activity and the remaining 16plants exhibited moderate activity against Candidaalbicans and to one or more dermatophytes. Suchactivity was detected in only 16 aqueous extracts.Alcoholic extracts of five medicinal plants wereselected for further studies on the basis of their stronganticandidal activity. Minimum inhibitory concentration(MIC) values of these five extracts revealed theirvaried anticandidal potency. MIC values rangedbetween 4–9 mg/ml. Comparatively high potency wasobserved in the extracts of Plumbago zeylanica(4mg/ml) followed by Terminalia bellirica and Phyllanthusemblica (7 mg/ml), each Holarrhena antidysentrica(8 mg/ml), and least in Terminalia chebula(9 mg/ml). Preliminary phytochemical analysis ofthese extracts showed the presence of many biologicallyactive constituents.RESULTSThe antifungal activity of aqueous and alcoholic crudeextracts of 37 medicinal plants against Candida albicansand one or more dermatophytes at a conc. of 200mg/ml is shown in Table 1. Anticandidal propertieswere detected in all 37 alcoholic extracts and only in16 aqueous extracts. The extent of over all activityagainst Candida albicans was described in terms ofinhibition zone diameters as low (_ 10 mm), moderate(_ 10–15 mm), good (16–19) and strong (20–22 mm)in a total of 3, 13, 6 and 5 plants extract, respectively.Based on maximum activity shown by alcoholicextracts, these extracts were further screened againstone or more dermatophytes including Epidermophytonfloccosum, Microsporum gypseum and Trichophytonrubrum. Of these 37 alcoholic extracts, 34 exhibitedantifungal activity against dermatophytes which wasobserved as low to moderate as inhibition zones ofdiameters ranging from 10 to 15 mm. Extracts of Phyllanthusemblica L., Terminalia belliirica (Gaertner)Roxb. and Terminalia chebula Retz, showed significantactivity against all three dermatophytes. Antifungalactivity of the control drug nystatin (conc. 50 _g/ml)against all test organisms was also determined asshown in Table 1.On the basis of strong activity observed with fiveplant extracts (Phyllanthus emblica, T. bellirica, Terminaliachebula, H. antidysentrica and Plumbago zeylandica.L.) against Candida albicans, these plantswere further selected for MIC determinations. TheMIC values ranged from 4–9 mg/ml. The potency ofplants extract against Candida albicans is maximumfor Plumbago zeylanical (MIC, 4 mg/ml) followed byPhyllanthus emblica, T. bellirica, H. antidysentrica,(MIC, 49 mg/ml) and least for T. chebula. The MICvalues were also found as the minimum fungicidal concentration(MFC) as shown in Table 2.Preliminary phytochemical screening of these fivehighly active plant extracts showed the presence of biologicallyactive substances. Phenolics, tannins and glycodiedeswere detected in Phyllanthus emblica,Terminalia bellirica and T. chebula; Flavonoids andsaponins in Plumbago zeylanica and alkaloids andsteroids in H. antidysentrica.> > >> > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works > best > > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me > > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but > have > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better even > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still had to > > > function in the real world? I"m hoping to cure myself of all my > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope> > >> >> Windows LiveTM: Keep your life in sync. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 This looks very promising. Does anyone know about phenol sensitivies and Amla? Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Eliabethl.............. where do you get it and in what form? > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What > works > > best > > > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made > me > > > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, > but > > have > > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better > even > > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still > had to > > > > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all > my > > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I used the Paradise Herbs brand first, then I bought the powder from www.superorganicfoods.com > > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What > > works > > > best > > > > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made > > me > > > > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, > > but > > > have > > > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally > better > > even > > > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still > > had to > > > > > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all > > my > > > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I've used amla for DS along with other herbs. My sense was that the herbs helped a lot, but he definitely had the dark under eye circles and a certain look to his face he gets when phenols are high. DS's oxalates have also increased so I stopped. But yes- definitely an issue with my phenol sensitive child. My DAN suggested I try them with No-Fenol but that was till we found out about the increasing oxaltes. > > >> > > I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works > best > > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me > > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but > have > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totally better even > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. if you still had to > > > function in the real world? I " m hoping to cure myself of all my > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hope hope> > >> >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveTM: Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Thanks for this. I was also thinking about recommending taking No-Fenol with the Amla. The increasing oxalates makes sense since there is so much C in the Amla. Have you tried cal/mag citrate before meals for the oxalates? You may also want to check into adding on vitamin K2 -in VERY low amounts, starting with one drop for several days and working up slowly. K2 is synthesized in the gut by the good bacteria, so when there is no good bacteria, there is no K2. K2 acts much like B6 (like a crossing guard) escorting calcium to the places it needs to be, so it doesn't build up and cause the crystals. There is a K protocol yahoo group, I believe, where you might find more information. HTH Marci To: mb12 valtrex From: allgfcf@...Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:45:46 +0000Subject: Re: What is your favorite anti fungal I've used amla for DS along with other herbs. My sense was that theherbs helped a lot, but he definitely had the dark under eye circlesand a certain look to his face he gets when phenols are high. DS'soxalates have also increased so I stopped. But yes- definitely anissue with my phenol sensitive child. My DAN suggested I try them withNo-Fenol but that was till we found out about the increasing oxaltes. > > >> > >I'm wondering what everyone is using for antifungal. What works > best> > > on what... My kid is free of yeast after Candex. Candex made me> > > dizzier and dizzier by the day. I am currently on Nystatin, but> have > > > ringing ears. My tongue is less thrush, but not totallybetter even > > > after a week. What would you use on yourself.. ifyou still had to > > > function in the real world? I"m hoping to curemyself of all my > > > autoimmune issues and allergies... hope hopehope> > >> >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> Windows LiveTM: Keep your life in sync. >http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009> Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. See how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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