Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Is your diet 1/3 carbs, 1/3 fat, and 1/3 protein then? Can you give us examples of the foods she says it's okay to eat? I'm eager to learn what dietitians in countries other than the U.S. recommend, . And how are your readings so far? Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 In a message dated 10/12/1999 12:38:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, norgaard-media@... writes: << I have not started measuring my bg again, since I started the diet, but I'll soon start measuring it 4 times a day. - The hospital doctor asked me to do that before my next visit there. >> , Just how overweight are you anyway? I would think as a diabetic your first priority would be to get the blood sugars down to a normal level (around 100). After reading the food plan that you are on, I would highly suggest that you start immediately to monitor your blood sugars. I have been overweight most of my life. Right now I am working on keeping my bs around 100 and a side benefit is that since I last was weighed at the Drs. I lost over 30#'s in 4 months. If you are able to loose weight on your plan, plus keep your blood sugars low, I congratulate you. Meniowl@... type2, dx 7/99/d & water aerobics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Susie wrote: > Is your diet 1/3 carbs, 1/3 fat, and 1/3 protein then? Can you give us > examples of the foods she says it's okay to eat? I'm eager to learn what > dietitians in countries other than the U.S. recommend, . And how are > your readings so far? > Hi again Susie, I have not started measuring my bg again, since I started the diet, but I'll soon start measuring it 4 times a day. - The hospital doctor asked me to do that before my next visit there. Here in Denmark we eat a type of bread that is called " rugbrød " . It's not made of wheat, but of rye. The dietist recommended it because there are to much carb in wheat. Here are my dietplan translated as good as I can: Breakfeast: - 1/1 slice of rye-bread without fat (butter etc.) Contains per 100g: protein 6g, carbs 33g, sugar 0g, fat 1.5g, fibres 8g, natrium 0,52g. - A thin slice of cheese - max 17% (30+) and max 20g - 1 glas of skimmed milk Contains per 100g: protein 3.4g, carbs 4,8g and fat 0,1g Between breakfeast and lunch : - ½ slice of rye-bread without fat (butter etc.) - a thin slice of low-fat meat (less than 3% fat per 100g) - vegetables as I wish (because their carbs don't affects the bg so much) Lunch: - 1/1 slice of rye-bread without fat (butter etc.) - a thin slice of meat (max 10g and less than 3% fat per 100g) - fish-meat (max 20g - without oil - tuna in water, for instance) - vegetables - (raw or boiled) Between lunch and dinner: - ½ slice of rye-bread or coarse bread without fat (butter etc.) - a thin slice of meat (max 10 g etc.... ) - vegetables as I wish Dinner: - 2 potatoes (about 120g) or rice/pasta (30g raw weight, 1½ dl boiled) - vegetables (should fill half of the plate - low-fat meat/chicken - about 100g or fish - about 125g. (the weight after being prepared) - 1 teaspoon of oil to prepare it - low-fat sauce Late evening: - ½ slice of rye-bread or coarse-bread without fat (butter etc.) - a thin slice of low-fat meat or low-fat cheese - vegetables as I wish Fruits: 1 pcs of fruit each day (apple, orange, pear) Drinks: water, dansk vand (danish water - just water with nothing else in it but bubbles), coffee, thea, drinks without sugar (all non-alcohol drinks) Now this was the diet-plan and it's purpose is, of course, to help me loose some overweight. Then I got the following advice from the hospital dietist: Limits for fat in the food (max g. per 100g): - cheese: max 17g (17% / 30+) - milk products: max 1,5g - meat: max 12g - prepared food (dinner etc.): max 5g - frosen food: max 5g - Sauce / dressing: max 5g - Breakfast products: max 5-10g - bread: max 5g Then she divided carbs into different categories: Simple: (those that affects bg much) - Sirup, honey, glucose, juice, sugar, fruit juice, fruit and sugar Compound: (those that affects bg much) - Wheat flour, white bread, potatoes Food fibres: (those that affects the bg moderately) - rye-bread, coarse-bread, oatmeal, pasta, rice, dried legominous fruit, vegetables I was surprised when I saw pasta in this category, because it is made of wheat flour and I remember that some of the members can't eat it because it affects their bg. Anyway the dietist don't recommend it in big quantities - only small. There were some subdivisions which I have not mentioned here. They recommends diabetics to primarily eat food from the last category. Besides the above plan/advice I have a lot of leaflets/brochures etc. so I can't mention them all. But this are the (fundamental) advice they give us. Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Thanks for the info, . Rather than low-carb/low-fat, the diet your dietitian recommended appears to be instead low-fat/high-carb. Some things that you could do to improve your bg control would be to drop the potatoes from the list ... to make lunch your big meal of the day, rather than dinner .... to drop the before-bed snack ... to exclude pasta, rice and fruit (except in small quantities and only occasionally) from the diet. There are a lot of variables, naturally, but it looks like that diet is 350 or more grams of carbs a day. (U.S. daily average among non-diabetics is 300 grams, to give you a comparison.) Eating your veggies raw rather than cooked will help your readings, as will focusing on broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, celery, etc., for your vegetable choices. I hope it works well for you. Regular testing will tell you more than anything else. If you can stand to fit it into your busy life, try to write down what you eat every day, along with your readings. This will be very helpful to you as you fine-tune your diabetes control over the coming months, . Susie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 > , > Just how overweight are you anyway? I would think as a diabetic your first > priority would be to get the blood sugars down to a normal level (around > 100). After reading the food plan that you are on, I would highly suggest > that you start immediately to monitor your blood sugars. I have been > overweight most of my life. Right now I am working on keeping my bs around > 100 and a side benefit is that since I last was weighed at the Drs. I lost > over 30#'s in 4 months. If you are able to loose weight on your plan, plus > keep your blood sugars low, I congratulate you. > > Meniowl@... > type2, dx 7/99/d & water aerobics Thank you for your mail. I need to loose some weight, but the bg level (fluctuations) is not a problem and has never been it for me, since I was diagnosed in january 99. The problem is high blood pressure. It's therefore I need to loose the weight - as you know, high blood pressure is not good to diabetics - and the main reason for it is my overweight. My bg has been in the range 90-110 since I was diagnosed. I believe that I can stop taking metformin tablets when I have lost the overweight and control it only with diet. Did you loose the 30#'s in 4 months through a diet? - You must have eaten nearly nothing > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Susie wrote: Thanks for the info, . Rather than low-carb/low-fat, the diet your > dietitian recommended appears to be instead low-fat/high-carb. Some things that you could do to improve your bg control would be to drop the potatoes > from the list ... Thank you for your reply. The only high-carb ingredients (potatoes,pasta,rice) is in so little quantity that I dont fell it really matters. I won't " sacrifice " them as long as I have no problem with my bg-level and the high blood pressure is the main problem because of overweight. to make lunch your big meal of the day, rather than dinner > ... to drop the before-bed snack ... Thank you for the advice. to exclude pasta, rice and fruit My stomach says no - small quantities is their advice as well. > (except in small quantities and only occasionally) from the diet. There are > a lot of variables, naturally, but it looks like that diet is 350 or more > grams of carbs a day. (U.S. daily average among non-diabetics is 300 grams, > to give you a comparison.) Still when I tried the diet last time I lost about 28lbs in 3 month. > Eating your veggies raw rather than cooked will help your readings, as will > focusing on broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, celery, etc., for your > vegetable choices. I cant stand raw veggies and broccoli! that would be a punishment. Though I know that I might get used to it over the time. Maybe in the millenium. I hope it works well for you. Regular testing will tell > you more than anything else. If you can stand to fit it into your busy life, > try to write down what you eat every day, along with your readings. This > will be very helpful to you as you fine-tune your diabetes control over the > coming months, . Thank you for your advice. I know that you have a lot of experience with it and I do listen ... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - It is better to wear out than to rust out. Cumberland - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 In a message dated 10/12/1999 2:55:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, norgaard-media@... writes: << I believe that I can stop taking metformin tablets when I have lost the overweight and control it only with diet. Did you loose the 30#'s in 4 months through a diet? - You must have eaten nearly nothing >> Well, I know for me that I was able to get off Glyburide after only being on it for two weeks, because once I started low carbing it, I was experiencing lows and having to eat more carbs to compensate. Hopefully you will also be able to get off the meds. The 30+ lbs. that I have lost was a bonus for eating low carb (30 a day) following Bernstein's plan. I wouldn't call eggs and bacon for breakfast, salad's, vegetables and steak or bacon cheeseburgers (minus the bun) or pork chops or fried chicken for lunch/dinner exactly eating nothing! = ) I wish you luck! Menowl@... type2,dx 7/99,d & water aerobics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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