Re: Does Smell indicate Mold or just VOC's?

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There are " not normal healthy people " by any means. They have low immune

systems and are allergic to fragrance. I was trying to make the point that once

you isolate from all scent, it is dangerous sometimes to go around fragrance and

some of them faint when exposed to scent. I think the body loses what little

natural immunity it has if you totally avoid everything. I have always been

allergic to scented detergent since I was a child and now having been isolated

so much, I feel ill around people who used scented detergent, scented dryer

sheets ,etc. Jane

carondeen <kdeanstudios@...> wrote: I find my MCS is soley a

barometer for my mold illness- the better I

am the more I can tolerate. Which is the same for the illness in

generel, if build up toxins in my system, I become intorerent of

everything- an must live in a totally clean environment to start

feeling better- once I am well ,I can tolerate moderatly normal air

and scents. I find it hard to understand or believe that a totally

healthy person, just by giving up scents, would create an intolerance

for them-they certainly would become more aware of them, but faint?

alittle like the vapours in n times.

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Carondeen,you put this well.the onlything I would add is that even

when your felling your best,a bad hit can bring some of us to our

knees. no not fainting, but i think fainting would be preferable over

these reactions.maybe closer to a form of siesure. if these peoples

mcs was actually caused by perfumes in the firstplace who's to say it

doesn't induce fainting, we are not all made ill in the same

environment nor do we endup with the samelevel of illness. when

people who don't have mcs make stupied comments based on thier lack

of knowledge it reminds me of what people with aids suffered through

all those years while no one understood. it's just plain rude to make

judgement when your not living in thier shoes. I don't know about

anyone else but I've had my fill of these types. sometimes they

should do more listening and less judgeing.

canbringyoudownquick

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[Guest guest]

,that's pretty much the way Iam,even if i go somewhere where I

don't have immediate effects,which is rare,the longer I stay the

sicker i get, the load builds. these are the sneaky ones and even

harder for family to understand because you seemed ok to them. and

its harder to get people to understand because most people need to

see you go down to the floor or watch your brain turn to mush or

cough and not be able to breath before thier eyes to realize

something is makeing you ill.

> > > It's called olfactory fatigue. When you get accuatomed to the

> > odors..aka,

> > > guys working in a sewer treatment plant same with the people

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[Guest guest]

Jane,it is not a allergic reaction,it is a hypersensative reaction to

the toxins.

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[Guest guest]

I would think the same as you describe . Very clean would make

you stronger, instead of weaker. However this is what someone said

that I met in Dallas at Dr Rae's but sometimes she does not make any

sense to me anyway, so perhaps she is explaining it incorrectly.

While I was there though a woman did faint when a man wearing cologne

came walking in, a visitor who walked by the signs that scents were

not allowed. She just collapsed. I smelled his cologne when he

walked by me. It was strong since he didn't come anywhere near me and

I wondered how he got in without anyone saying anything. Then woman

fainted and people came running with oxygen for her. Shocked me

really. I hope she doesn't drive any more. She should have a

companion with her always.

--- In , " carondeen " <kdeanstudios@...>

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[Guest guest]

, This has been my experience. I only smell the mustiness or

odor when I first come in. I have lived in same house since 1990

like that. I always thought the odor was AT the door because of

it. So I did an experiment and I unlocked another door I rarely use

and when I got home from being out all day, I entered in THAT door

and did smell the same mustiness, so it is all over, I just don't

smell it after a few minutes of being inside.

I also smell this 'mustiness' almost every apartment I looked at

REALLY. However I do NOT smell it generally in stores or

restaurants and other commercial buildings...maybe more air

circulating and other scents in there to compete. Also I have been

in single family homes that I did not smell it in but many DO. I

just think it is an area of neglect, people are not aware that they

have indoor air problem. Like I was not aware until I got so sick I

could not do anything but lie around and started in investigate.

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> For me the longer I stay away from the fragrances the better I

> tolerate them when exposed. I can go to a store and come home

[Guest guest]

barb,I have felt like i was going to pass out many times and do good

if i can remain standing on weak wobbly legs and i've never been one

to faint or passout. but i can see how this illness could do that

very easily to people who were more prone to fainting before thier

illness.

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better I

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who--you misunderstand. patients who originally came in a little headachy

around things like perfume, started shutting themselves totally away from scents

and then starting fainting around them. after I went to the Mayo Clinic, they

told me to avoid using scented candles and perfume. I cleared out everything in

my house which had any scent even lavender, etc. and now I can't be around

people who have laundry detergent residue in their clothes even. Jane Ann

who <jeaninem660@...> wrote: Jane,you don't know what your

talking about. you don'tjust get a

little headacky with mcs. sometimes if you don't understand something

it's better to keep your mouthshut! and there is a big difference

between masking and unmasking with allergies and with mcs and

hypersensativitys. there is a hudge difference between allergies and

poisoning by toxins that cause mcs.

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> > I don't think being unmasked from everything is good. Once you

are

> so perfectly clean with nothing in your body, how does one re-enter

> the 21st century? I am speaking of this in the context of

> mcs/allergies.

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[Guest guest]

Jane,I understand MCS very will,I have it. when you get out of the

environment that caused it your symptoms start to unmask but they

won't completely unmask until you practice advoidence. at that time

the organ disfunction symptoms that you had during exposure will also

start to seperate and mellow out. than when you do get exposed to a

irratant, depending on what it is and how potent it is and how

hypersensative you are to it and what organs it affects and what your

toxin load is already, you will experience a reaction. no one is

immune to toxins and no one builds immunity to toxins.

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> > > I don't think being unmasked from everything is good. Once you

> are

> > so perfectly clean with nothing in your body, how does one re-

enter

> > the 21st century? I am speaking of this in the context of

> > mcs/allergies.

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