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> <<<...I've been reading your discussion about your various diets and there

>

> seems to be quite a difference. I would classify mine as high

> carbohydrate. How much experimenting can you do on your own without

> having to call your doctor or dietician? Mine seems to be working

> okay for me as I have lost some weight and my lab readings are good.>>>

Hi Annette,

Welcome to the list.

Seems most are on low carb and either low or high protein. It appears that

rarely do any 2 people here react the same way to any particular medicine,

diet or exercise but generally most of us can't handle a lot of carbs

without our blood sugar (bg's) readings going up too far.

Personally, I've found that low carbs and medium protein works for me. I've

lost 42 pounds, stabilized my weight, and gone off Amaryl as a result of the

diet control and 3 miles a day on my treadmill.

I tested about 7 times a day until I understood the relationship between

different food combinations/ exercise and my bg numbers. I now test 7 times

a week using a Bayer Glucometer Elite.

Good luck and good to have you with us...

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> Hi Annette,

>

> Welcome to the list.

Thanks, .

> Seems most are on low carb and either low or high protein. It

appears that

> rarely do any 2 people here react the same way to any particular

medicine,

> diet or exercise but generally most of us can't handle a lot of

carbs

> without our blood sugar (bg's) readings going up too far.

That's what I was thinking. That it almost makes more sense for us to

find out what works for us rather than let a dietician tell us. I may

start reducing my carbs gradually and see what it does.

> Personally, I've found that low carbs and medium protein works for

me. I've

> lost 42 pounds, stabilized my weight, and gone off Amaryl as a

result of the

> diet control and 3 miles a day on my treadmill.

That's great that you've been able to get off medication. I've lost

about 40 lbs. as well but it seems to have stalled there and I have

more I could lose.

> I tested about 7 times a day until I understood the relationship

between

> different food combinations/ exercise and my bg numbers. I now test

7 times

> a week using a Bayer Glucometer Elite.

Do you test at different times during the day? My doctor said I only

had to test 2 or 3 times a week, which didn't seem like enough to me.

A friend who's been diabetic for about 25 years said if I don't test

often, then a fasting one is the best cuz it lets you know how you're

starting the day. I usually test in the morning and a couple times a

week at work at various times.

> Good luck and good to have you with us...

Thanks again.

Annette

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> <<<That's what I was thinking. That it almost makes more sense for us to

> find out what works for us rather than let a dietician tell us. I may

> start reducing my carbs gradually and see what it does.>>>

My dietitian said that cutting anything out completely was a mistake.. That

it would lead to cravings and an eventual return to bad habits. She said if

you want to eat something " bad " (my word) just plan ahead by offsetting it

with protein and exercise. Trips to Outback Steakhouse for steak, baked

potato, potato soup and salad are followed by 38 minutes on the treadmill at

4.5 mph as soon as I can get home... Usually right away.

I also love no sugar added Klondike bars and allow myself one a day (usually

the highlight of the day)..<G>

> <<<That's great that you've been able to get off medication. I've lost

> about 40 lbs. as well but it seems to have stalled there and I have

> more I could lose.>>>

I plateaued several time too but I figured that was just my body's way of

testing to see if I was really serious about weight loss. I feel better now

at 52 yrs old than I have in about the past 15 years.

<<<Do you test at different times during the day? My doctor said I only had

to test 2 or 3 times a week, which didn't seem like enough to me. A friend

who's been diabetic for about 25 years said if I don't test often, then a

fasting one is the best cuz it lets you know how you're starting the day. I

usually test in the morning and a couple times a week at work at various

times.>>>

Yes, I test at one of the following each day; before breakfast, 2 hrs after,

before lunch, 2 hrs after, 3pm, before dinner, or after exercise.

Take care Annette and I think you'll find caring compassionate people here

that are always willing to help each other. And very knowledgeable too...

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Hi Group,

I just sorta wanted to get some feedback on this. I try to start the morning

off with an aerobic tape and I do it for 30-40 minutes then late afternoon or

early evening I do the tape again. Do ya'll think this is enough exercise,if

I don't go walk or do you think I still need to walk too?

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Hi Gail,

How long have you been doing this much exercise? I started out just doing

part of the tape once a day and walking some. We have recently had a very bad

thing happen at the beach and they have not caught the last person

involved,so I am hesitant to walk until it is really resolved.Yes I agree

about taking a day off but I have so much more energy that its just wonderful

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> <<<I doubt if I could cut out anything completely, although I haven't had

> a chocolate bar or a doughnut since I found out. Luckily I was never

> big on sweets before so it hasn't been that much of a sacrifice.

> Exercise is something I do get since I walk to work and back each day.

> That's 15 minutes each way and it's a lot easier now than it was when

> I started. :)>>>

Sounds like a pretty good regimen for the exercise that you've developed.

Haven't had a doughnut or chocolate bar here either, now that you mention

it, but every Friday is doughnut day at work and I do have to fight the

temptation.

<<..no sugar added Klondike bars...>>

> <<<I got some of those too but I only have them on really hot days,

> if/when I think of it. I don't always. But since you reminded me, I

> think I'll go have one as soon as I send this. :)>>>

Uh oh.. I contributing to your delinquency.

> <<<How long have you been diabetic? Is it in your family? I'm the only

> one in my family that has it. I'm 51, btw.>>>

I went back to Virginia on 12/17/98 for Christmas and arrived dying of

thirst. Spent the next 2 weeks wolfing down water, tea and soft drinks...

Went to the doctor because a sinus infection I'd returned with wasn't

getting any better on meds but I had a giant Dr. Pepper on the way to his

office. When he suspected diabetes and checked the bg it was 436 (on

1/4/99). Vision was temporarily shot.

52 yrs old, started at 232 pounds, was on Amaryl but stopped at 217 pounds.

Currently at 189 but I check and record weight daily...just so I don't feel

I can cheat without noticing the weight. Bg's run 90-120.

Went to the doc yesterday for a 3 month check and he said the 5.7 A1C was

great. Both of my parents were orphans so I don't know about DM in the

family but they didn't have it.

<<<No one's mentioned to me about testing lunch and dinner? Should it be

low then or fairly normal?>>>

I generally test 85-90 before a meal and 110-120 2 hrs afterward. I usually

have a 85-90 immediately after exercising (right after dinner).

<<<I have no doubt of that. I'm surprised I didn't think of looking for a

place like this sooner.>>>

I like it because no one hogs all the messages and this tends not to be

political with people on witch-hunts. And there are several people here

who've studied a lot and know their stuff..

Take care Annette..

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> <<<... and please... DON'T GO TO DAIRY QUEEN TWICE IN ONE DAY JUST CAUSE RICK

> DID!!!!>>>

Neat story Rick,

Glad the exercise compensated for the DG's.

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> <<<I just sorta wanted to get some feedback on this. I try to start the

morning

>

> off with an aerobic tape and I do it for 30-40 minutes then late afternoon or

> early evening I do the tape again. Do ya'll think this is enough exercise,if

> I don't go walk or do you think I still need to walk too?>>>

Hi ,

I find that I can watch certain tapes over and over long as I don't have to get

out of my recliner too often.. (g)

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I would think that would be plenty.

My doctor cautioned me against doing any exercise lasting longer than 40 minutes

at one time.

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Hi ,

I also do a lot of exercise. I walk 45 just about everyday and sometimes more

except for one. I go to aerobics 2 nights a week in the summer and 3 nights in

the winter and ride my bike when I can. I don't think there is such a thing as

too much exercise not for me anyway. I ususally do like to take 1 day off for a

rest day. I think you need that. But all this exercise is starting to pay of.

I am starting to lose weight and it helps keep my bg levels under tight control.

Gail

VPolzin@... wrote:

> From: VPolzin@...

>

> Hi Group,

> I just sorta wanted to get some feedback on this. I try to start the morning

> off with an aerobic tape and I do it for 30-40 minutes then late afternoon or

> early evening I do the tape again. Do ya'll think this is enough exercise,if

> I don't go walk or do you think I still need to walk too?

>

>

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Walking really energizes me and makes me feel so good. I have some

respiratory problems so work out for at least an hour twice a week. I spend

30 minutes on the treadmill as I don't have a good level place to walk

outside nor a mall closeby. Thirty minutes should be enough to get your

heart rate up.

Kay

To: diabetes_intonelist <diabetes_intonelist>

Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 5:34 AM

Subject: Re: Questions

>From: VPolzin@...

>

>Hi Group,

>I just sorta wanted to get some feedback on this. I try to start the

morning

>off with an aerobic tape and I do it for 30-40 minutes then late afternoon

or

>early evening I do the tape again. Do ya'll think this is enough

exercise,if

>I don't go walk or do you think I still need to walk too?

>

>

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> > That's 15 minutes each way and it's a lot easier now than it was

when

> > I started. :)>>>

>

> Sounds like a pretty good regimen for the exercise that you've

developed.

Lot of time I'll take a longer way home, go 3 or 4 blocks out of my

way. And I do have a gravity rider that I use in the winter because I

can't walk it in the winter.

> Haven't had a doughnut or chocolate bar here either, now that you

mention

> it, but every Friday is doughnut day at work and I do have to fight

the

> temptation.

I'm lucky at work because there's just me and my boss and he's

borderline diabetic so getting time off to go to the doctor's or for

tests isn't a problem. Also neither one of us is bringing in sweets

and that helps.

> Uh oh.. I contributing to your delinquency.

Yes. It's all your fault. But it was yummy. :)

> I went back to Virginia on 12/17/98 for Christmas and arrived dying

of

> thirst. Spent the next 2 weeks wolfing down water, tea and soft

drinks...

> Went to the doctor because a sinus infection I'd returned with

wasn't

> getting any better on meds but I had a giant Dr. Pepper on the way

to his

> office. When he suspected diabetes and checked the bg it was 436 (on

> 1/4/99). Vision was temporarily shot.

(Quick conversion - 436/18 = 24.2) Wow! So it sounds like you've

done quite well since then.

> 52 yrs old, started at 232 pounds, was on Amaryl but stopped at 217

pounds.

> Currently at 189 but I check and record weight daily...just so I

don't feel

> I can cheat without noticing the weight. Bg's run 90-120.

I only weigh myself about once a week. I haven't gone up but I

haven't lost any in a couple months. I had been wanting to lose

weight for years. Looks like I just needed the right incentive. If

the consequences of not taking care of your diabetes doesn't make you

change your ways, I don't think anything will.

> Went to the doc yesterday for a 3 month check and he said the 5.7

A1C was

> great. Both of my parents were orphans so I don't know about DM in

the

> family but they didn't have it.

So I guess having it or not having it in the family doesn't really

mean anything.

> I generally test 85-90 before a meal and 110-120 2 hrs afterward. I

usually

> have a 85-90 immediately after exercising (right after dinner).

That's pretty good if you're doing it without medication.

> I like it because no one hogs all the messages and this tends not to

be

> political with people on witch-hunts. And there are several people

here

> who've studied a lot and know their stuff..

That's good. Some things I know, some I guess at and some is still

totally new to me. Nothing like getting it from the horse's mouth, so

to speak.

TTYL,

Annette

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And for those who think walking on a treadmill is so BORRRING (which it is) I

get books on tape from the library and play on my Walkman. Helps make the

time really fly! I do a half hour three times a week on treadmill at gym

and a walk outside on other days; also enjoy book on tape then! Vicki

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>

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