Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 December 1, 2006 To The Editors of the Wall Street Journal and Mr. Lester Brinkman, My name is Mrs. Sharon Kramer. I advocate for those made ill from mold exposure who are not able to obtain viable medical treatment because of much misinformation being disseminated over the matter. The article entitled " False Witness " and authored by Mr. Lester Brinkman has a misstatement of fact that is potentially harmful to many, should it not be corrected. It is misinformation that could cause the public to be lulled into a false and dangerous sense of security regarding indoor mold exposure. Mr. Brinkman wrote: " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. " The American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine makes no such claims that indoor mold exposure is not harmful to human health. The area of debate within the matter, is if an indoor exposure to mycotoxins may produce toxic effects. The actual quotes from the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Mold Statement in regard to mycotoxins are, 1. " Particular attention is given to the possible health effects of mycotoxins, which give rise to much of the concern and controversy surrounding indoor molds " 2. . " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation route of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " 3. " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, or office environments. " With regard to ill health effects known from the molds themselves, the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine states: 1. A growing body of literature associates a variety of diagnosable respiratory illnesses (asthma, wheezing, cough, phlegm, etc.), particularly in children, with residence in damp or water-damaged homes (see reviews 3-5). 2. " Allergic and other hypersensitivity responses to indoor molds may be immunoglobulin E (IgE) or immunoglobulin G (IgG) mediated, and both types of response are associated with exposure to indoor molds. " 3. Individuals with allergic airway disease should take steps to minimize their exposure to molds and other airborne allergens, eg, animal dander, dust mites, pollens. For these individuals, it is prudent to take feasible steps that reduce exposure to aeroallergens and to remediate sources of indoor mold amplification 4. If evaluation of the occupational environment fails to disclose the source of antigens, exposures in the home, school, or office should be investigated. Once identified, the source of the mold or other inhaled foreign antigens should be remediated. The following is the link to the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine document. _Evidence Based Statement | Adverse Human Health Effects Associated with Molds in the Indoor Environment_ (http://www.acoem.org/guidelines.aspx?id=850) As one can clearly see, Mr. Brinkman's statement of " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. " is a false statement in need of correction. I do agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Brinkman's evaluation of " But more is necessary to curb fraud. State and federal legislation is needed to empower prosecutors to pierce doctors' and scientific experts' effective immunity from criminal prosecution. Drafting legislation to distinguish between legitimately disputed diagnoses or theories of causation and manufacturing medical or scientific evidence for money is a daunting task. But it is one that we must undertake to preserve the integrity of the civil justice system. " . And I find that it would have been appropriate in an article entitled " False Witness " that takes the position there is much fraud on the plaintiff side in environmental litigation, Mr. Brinkman and the Wall Street Journal should have disclosed to the readers, Mr. Brinkman's long history and close affiliation with the defense side of toxic tort litigation. It should have been disclosed to the reader of the author's close affiliation with the Manhattan Institute. The Manhattan Institute has played a significant part in much of the misinformation being propagated over the mold issue. Below are links that illustrate Mr. Brinkman's long history with the defense side of toxic tort litigation. From the UCSF Tobacco Legacy Library regarding Mr. Brichman, RJ Reynolds Documents _http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results_ (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results) " FYI - The Manhattan Institute had a call from 60 Minutes.....the producer might want to call an academic, and he provided Lester Brichman's name. " " In response to Dan's question I said " no " neither we nor the litigation project (which technically doesn't exist!) should not reach out to 60 Minutes or we'd wind up in the story or kill it. I'm not even going to tell the cos. for fear PM [sic ] will try to do something " clever " . " Former Helms staffer will be joining the Institute in July as sr. vp of federal grant From the Manhattan Institute website: _http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf_ (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf) " President Bush with Prof. Lester Brickman (at left) for “A Conversation on Asbestos Litigation Reform.†" Lester Brickman received the 2004 Legal Reform Research Award from the US Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. " From the PointofLaw website: PointofLaw.com is a website sponsored by the Center for Legal Policy at the _Manhattan Institute_ (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/) and _Liability Project_ (http://www.aei.org/research/projectID.23/project.asp) at the American Enterprise Institute. Focusing on America's civil justice system, the site includes original discussions featuring some of the nation's top legal scholars, an ongoing forum on liability issues, a bibliography of important books and articles, and links to topical legal news stories. Contributors:Lester Brickman is a professor of law at the N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University. His areas of expertise include administrative alternatives to mass tort litigation, asbestos litigation, and contingency fee reform. Professor Brickman has written extensively on these and other topics, he has testified at congressional hearings, and he is widely quoted in the press. Attached is a document illustrating the US Chamber and Manhattan Institute involvement in the mold issue. Additional example of the known dangers of mold exposure, the Center for Disease Control on the subject: _www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf_ (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) I thank the Wall Street Journal and Mr. Brinkman, in advance for correcting the ironically false statement of " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. " in the " False Witness " article. Sincerely, Mrs. Sharon Kramer 2031 Arborwood Place Escondido, Ca 92029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 what is it going to take? some kind of mass class action lawsuit to get this all on the table and proven beyond dought. were is our lawfirm rideing in on great white horses? anyone with knowledge of the justice system knows that not one single mold case would ever had been won, or settled out of court if there was no proof that mold/mycotoxins cause illnesses and even death. this is bs and is going way beyond the time limit of aceptance. theres to many power forces behind this trying to keep this from being reconized. a damn horse gets better treatment than we do. and its going to drag on for another ten years if something major is not done. winning a case here and there is not enough. designing websites,makeing patitions, is not enough. theres 100's a groups spread out, each based on different parts of this illness that need to come together.because this illness has not ever been reconized as what it is, incompasing a wide range of diseases, we are basically spread out everywhere. you got the mcs groups, the cfs groups, the fibmyalgia groups, the arthritis groups, the ms, autisum, immune disfuction and on and on. how many are sick from mold exposure, how any have been misdiagnosed and dont even know it? it's pretty sad. why is this happening? theres not one dought in my mind that those fighting so hard to keep this quite know just exactually how ill mycotoxin exposure can make you and that it effects 2 things that add to thier favor. the brain and energy. they also know that the experts out there are not all together on this and that hurts us. this is something i dont really understand. from what i see if all the experts got together it would be a pretty complete package of everything going on with us. genetics, dna mutation,tilt,mcs,autoimunity,nos,allergies,ect. a multiple organ syndrome with hypersensatives.i dont think theres one single part of our body that is left untouched. some not to this point yet, some way beyond this point, close to death, many die with cansers. we are not the few, we are just the few known. we are in a war against very powerful cooperations that risk going broke if this illness is reconized.there well have to be major changes to save us and our planet. many of these large cooperations and thier products are actually causeing fungus to mutate and become more toxic, it does what it has to do to servive. maybe bush thinks he can take all the rich people to live on mars or maybe irac. these cooperaations are getting richer at our expence and they know it. so whats thier plan? i bet some of them have family members sick from mold. do they care? ok, lets say stem cell research comes up with something to help us, how much longer will that drag this out,and how much more will fungus mutate to overcome it, are we bound to become freaks of nature because we went against nature for the sake of money? what are my grandchildren going to have to suffer through? i know theres a lot of people worried and fed up. what does it take for change. theres a old saying that knowledge=change. we have knowledge but its scattered,how can we get everyone to come together? theres got to be something we can do and people that care. we need people with energy that are well to take interest in our fight.we are so close, something big to get us the attention we need to force this issue to be dealy with. even if we didn't get far with a class action it would get attention. it would say to the world that we are mad and we want something to be done. we need the world to know how unsafe it is to live and work around moldy environments. we need renters to know that they are getting exposed to molds in these rental apartments, people buying homes need to know that they could buy a home that could kill them and workers need to know that thier job could make them very ill and everyone should have this knowledge and the right to choose if they want to risk thier health.-- -- In , snk1955@... wrote: > > > > Prof Brinkman's quote from the WSJ article, False Witness: > > > 1. " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental > Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that > molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or > office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > 2. Direct quotes from ACOEM mold statement: > " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation route > of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely > at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " > > " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, or > office environments. " > > 3. The WSJ article, November 29, 2006: > > > False Witness > By LESTER BRICKMAN > December 2, 2006; Page A9 > > Last year, in a shot heard round the mass tort world, U.S. District Court > Judge Janis Jack, presiding over 10,000 claims of silicosis -- a lung disease > caused by exposure to silica (sand) dusts, issued a report documenting > widespread, fraudulent medical diagnoses. The fraud was discovered when Judge Jack > permitted the defendants to extensively question the doctors who had diagnosed > the alleged injuries. While this sounds like standard operating procedure, > most judges would not have permitted such discovery. Indeed, the fraud would > never have come to light but for a courageous judge willing to, in effect, > put the tort system on trial. > Judge Jack largely corroborated my own published findings of fraudulent > production of medical evidence in asbestos litigation....... > Substantially the same fraudulent practices have been used in other mass > tort litigations. " Fen-phen " is one example. Several law firms and about 10 > echocardiogram companies which started screening businesses spent millions of > dollars to set up makeshift " echo mills " in hotel rooms and elsewhere to > administer echocardiograms to users of these diet drugs. Approximately a few > thousand users suffered heart valve injuries, but tens of thousands responded to > advertisements to find out whether they qualified for compensation........ > Silicone is another example. Screenings by lawyers in silicone breast > implant litigation ginned up tens of thousands of claims of connective tissue and > rheumatoid diseases that were supported by the specious diagnoses of a few > dozen doctors who were mostly referred by the lawyers. Cursory examinations -- > sometimes in lawyers' offices doubling as examining rooms -- were done on an > assembly line basis by cardiologists charging as much as $6,000 per > examination and diagnosing more than 90% of the women with symptoms that would make > them eligible for compensation. > However, the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine concluded > that " there is no evidence that silicone breast implants contribute to an > increase in autoimmune (connective tissue) diseases . . . and [there is] no link > between implants and connective disease or rheumatic conditions. " > Nonetheless, approximately $4 billion to $5 billion has been paid by the manufacturers > for connective tissue and autoimmune disease claims. > Mold litigation is still another example of a mass tort infected by > fraudulent medical and scientific evidence. Mold is a ubiquitous fungus to which > everyone is exposed; according to the American College of Occupational and > Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the > proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, > school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. The scientific > evidence notwithstanding, mold litigation, a multibillion dollar industry, > proceeds because a small number of experts paid fees of as much as $10,000 a > day have regularly testified that mold causes a terrifying array of diseases > from lung cancer to cirrhosis of the liver. > While there are ongoing federal investigations of silica and asbestos > litigation in New York and of fen-phen litigation in Philadelphia, federal > prosecutors have not indicted the doctors and scientific experts. To prove fraud in > those cases will require the testimony of other doctors and scientific > experts; and it may be that prosecutors are concerned that " reasonable doubt " is > virtually inherent in a process that relies on a " battle of the experts " for > evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, doctors and scientific experts are obviously well > aware of their effective immunity from prosecution. They do not need a " get > out of jail free " card because they already have a " never go to jail " card. > Part of the solution is for judges to approach mass tort litigation with a > healthy skepticism when mass claims have been generated by the type of > litigation screenings used in asbestos, silica, fen-phen and breast implant > litigations. Integral to these litigation screenings are mass- produced medical > services which are manufactured for money -- practices which flourish when courts > insulate them from the extensive discovery presided over by Judge Jack. > But more is necessary to curb fraud. State and federal legislation is needed > to empower prosecutors to pierce doctors' and scientific experts' effective > immunity from criminal prosecution. Drafting legislation to distinguish > between legitimately disputed diagnoses or theories of causation and manufacturing > medical or scientific evidence for money is a daunting task. But it is one > that we must undertake to preserve the integrity of the civil justice system. > Mr. Brickman is professor of law at the Cardozo School of Law of Yeshiva > University. > 4. From the UCSF Tobacco Legacy Library regarding Prof Brichman, RJReynolds > Documents > _http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results_ > (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results) > > " FYI - The Manhattan Institute had a call from 60 Minutes.....the producer > might want to call an academic, and he provided Lester Brichman's name. " > > > " In response to Dan's question I said " no " neither we nor the litigation > project (which technically doesn't exist!) should not reach out to 60 Minutes or > we'd wind up in the story or kill it. I'm not even going to tell the cos. > for fear PM [sic ] will try to do something " clever " . > > " Former Helms staffer will be joining the Institute in July as sr. vp of > federal grant > > From the Manhattan Institute website: > _http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf_ > (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf) > > " President Bush with Prof. Lester Brickman (at left) for “A Conversation on > Asbestos Litigation Reform.†> " Lester Brickman received the 2004 Legal Reform Research Award from the US > Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. " > > From the PointofLaw website: > > PointofLaw.com > is a website sponsored by the Center for Legal Policy at the _Manhattan > Institute_ (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/) and _Liability Project_ > (http://www.aei.org/research/projectID.23/project.asp) at the American Enterprise > Institute. Focusing on America's civil justice system, the site includes > original discussions featuring some of the nation's top legal scholars, an ongoing > forum on liability issues, a bibliography of important books and articles, > and links to topical legal news stories. Contributors:Lester Brickman is a > professor of law at the N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva > University. His areas of expertise include administrative alternatives to mass tort > litigation, asbestos litigation, and contingency fee reform. Professor Brickman > has written extensively on these and other topics, he has testified at > congressional hearings, and he is widely quoted in the press. > > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > The lay translation of the ACOEM Mold Statement was shared by the Manhattan > Institute with the US Chamber and affiliates in July of 2003. It ends with > the sentence, “Thus the notion that ‘toxic mold’ is an insidious secret ‘ > killer’ as so many media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ‘Junk Science’ > unsupported by actual scientific study.†> > > > Just one example of thousands regarding ill health and mold. It's a CDC doc. > _www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf_ > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > > > Sharon Kramer > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 One line of argument that people in mold cases are not making, but which needs to be made. Human lives are much more fragile than the lives of animals living in laboratories. The only analogy that could be made is if a human being was living in a cage, received three meals a day, and could not talk or in any way explain what was happening to him or her. Poor people's lives are exceedingly fragile. What might not hurt a well-to-do person so very much, like not being able to remember at one's usual level, or sleep properly, or remember your boss's instructions, will quickly result in a chain reaction of devastating consequences in most humans lives, at least those who live normal lives. Animals can't talk. They can't explain what is happening to them when they are in these experiments that are used to 'prove' the nontoxicity of individual mycotoxins (and make no mistake about it, when funding comes it is to 'prove' things one way or another these days) In the real world, those who live in moldy buildings are subjected to a witches brew of numerous chemical and biological toxicants from the mold and bacteria growth in them. Their bodies react as bodies do, with defenses designed to protect us from death or disease. This is extremely disruptive and by all of OUR experiences, often results in health issues that impact us for years, quite possibly for our lives. Why do they ignore us? Why do they poison us? MONEY... On 12/3/06, snk1955@... <snk1955@...> wrote: > > > > Prof Brinkman's quote from the WSJ article, False Witness: > > > 1. " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental > Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition > that > molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, > school, or > office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > 2. Direct quotes from ACOEM mold statement: > " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the > inhalation route > of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely > > at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " > > " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, > or > office environments. " > > 3. The WSJ article, November 29, 2006: > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Exactly! " who " wrote: everyone should have this knowledge and the right to choose if they want to risk thier health.-- Carl Grimes Healthy Habitats LLC --- > what is it going to take? some kind of mass class action lawsuit to > get this all on the table and proven beyond dought. were is our > lawfirm rideing in on great white horses? anyone with knowledge of the > justice system knows that not one single mold case would ever had been > won, or settled out of court if there was no proof that > mold/mycotoxins cause illnesses and even death. this is bs and is > going way beyond the time limit of aceptance. theres to many power > forces behind this trying to keep this from being reconized. a damn > horse gets better treatment than we do. and its going to drag on for > another ten years if something major is not done. winning a case here > and there is not enough. designing websites,makeing patitions, is not > enough. theres 100's a groups spread out, each based on different > parts of this illness that need to come together.because this illness > has not ever been reconized as what it is, incompasing a wide range of > diseases, we are basically spread out everywhere. you got the mcs > groups, the cfs groups, the fibmyalgia groups, the arthritis groups, > the ms, autisum, immune disfuction and on and on. how many are sick > from mold exposure, how any have been misdiagnosed and dont even know > it? it's pretty sad. why is this happening? theres not one dought in > my mind that those fighting so hard to keep this quite know just > exactually how ill mycotoxin exposure can make you and that it effects > 2 things that add to thier favor. the brain and energy. they also know > that the experts out there are not all together on this and that hurts > us. this is something i dont really understand. from what i see if all > the experts got together it would be a pretty complete package of > everything going on with us. genetics, dna > mutation,tilt,mcs,autoimunity,nos,allergies,ect. a multiple organ > syndrome with hypersensatives.i dont think theres one single part of > our body that is left untouched. some not to this point yet, some way > beyond this point, close to death, many die with cansers. we are not > the few, we are just the few known. we are in a war against very > powerful cooperations that risk going broke if this illness is > reconized.there well have to be major changes to save us and our > planet. many of these large cooperations and thier products are > actually causeing fungus to mutate and become more toxic, it does what > it has to do to servive. maybe bush thinks he can take all the rich > people to live on mars or maybe irac. these cooperaations are getting > richer at our expence and they know it. so whats thier plan? i bet > some of them have family members sick from mold. do they care? ok, > lets say stem cell research comes up with something to help us, how > much longer will that drag this out,and how much more will fungus > mutate to overcome it, are we bound to become freaks of nature because > we went against nature for the sake of money? what are my > grandchildren going to have to suffer through? i know theres a lot of > people worried and fed up. what does it take for change. theres a old > saying that knowledge=change. we have knowledge but its scattered,how > can we get everyone to come together? theres got to be something we > can do and people that care. we need people with energy that are well > to take interest in our fight.we are so close, something big to get us > the attention we need to force this issue to be dealy with. even if we > didn't get far with a class action it would get attention. it would > say to the world that we are mad and we want something to be done. we > need the world to know how unsafe it is to live and work around moldy > environments. we need renters to know that they are getting exposed to > molds in these rental apartments, people buying homes need to know > that they could buy a home that could kill them and workers need to > know that thier job could make them very ill and everyone should have > this knowledge and the right to choose if they want to risk thier > health.-- > > -- In , snk1955@... wrote: > > > > > > > > Prof Brinkman's quote from the WSJ article, False Witness: > > > > > > 1. " according to the American College of Occupational and > Environmental > > Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the > proposition that > > molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in > home, school, or > > office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > > > 2. Direct quotes from ACOEM mold statement: > > " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data > in > > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the > inhalation route > > of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly > unlikely > > at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable > subpopulations. " > > > > " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that > human > > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, > school, or > > office environments. " > > > > 3. The WSJ article, November 29, 2006: > > > > > > False Witness > > By LESTER BRICKMAN > > December 2, 2006; Page A9 > > > > Last year, in a shot heard round the mass tort world, U.S. > District Court > > Judge Janis Jack, presiding over 10,000 claims of silicosis -- a > lung disease > > caused by exposure to silica (sand) dusts, issued a report > documenting > > widespread, fraudulent medical diagnoses. The fraud was discovered > when Judge Jack > > permitted the defendants to extensively question the doctors who > had diagnosed > > the alleged injuries. While this sounds like standard operating > procedure, > > most judges would not have permitted such discovery. Indeed, the > fraud would > > never have come to light but for a courageous judge willing to, in > effect, > > put the tort system on trial. > > Judge Jack largely corroborated my own published findings of > fraudulent > > production of medical evidence in asbestos litigation....... > > Substantially the same fraudulent practices have been used in > other mass > > tort litigations. " Fen-phen " is one example. Several law firms and > about 10 > > echocardiogram companies which started screening businesses spent > millions of > > dollars to set up makeshift " echo mills " in hotel rooms and > elsewhere to > > administer echocardiograms to users of these diet drugs. > Approximately a few > > thousand users suffered heart valve injuries, but tens of > thousands responded to > > advertisements to find out whether they qualified for > compensation........ > > Silicone is another example. Screenings by lawyers in silicone > breast > > implant litigation ginned up tens of thousands of claims of > connective tissue and > > rheumatoid diseases that were supported by the specious diagnoses > of a few > > dozen doctors who were mostly referred by the lawyers. Cursory > examinations -- > > sometimes in lawyers' offices doubling as examining rooms -- were > done on an > > assembly line basis by cardiologists charging as much as $6,000 > per > > examination and diagnosing more than 90% of the women with > symptoms that would make > > them eligible for compensation. > > However, the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine > concluded > > that " there is no evidence that silicone breast implants > contribute to an > > increase in autoimmune (connective tissue) diseases . . . and > [there is] no link > > between implants and connective disease or rheumatic conditions. " > > Nonetheless, approximately $4 billion to $5 billion has been paid > by the manufacturers > > for connective tissue and autoimmune disease claims. > > Mold litigation is still another example of a mass tort infected > by > > fraudulent medical and scientific evidence. Mold is a ubiquitous > fungus to which > > everyone is exposed; according to the American College of > Occupational and > > Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not > support the > > proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, > whether inhaled in home, > > school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. The > scientific > > evidence notwithstanding, mold litigation, a multibillion dollar > industry, > > proceeds because a small number of experts paid fees of as much as > $10,000 a > > day have regularly testified that mold causes a terrifying array > of diseases > > from lung cancer to cirrhosis of the liver. > > While there are ongoing federal investigations of silica and > asbestos > > litigation in New York and of fen-phen litigation in Philadelphia, > federal > > prosecutors have not indicted the doctors and scientific experts. > To prove fraud in > > those cases will require the testimony of other doctors and > scientific > > experts; and it may be that prosecutors are concerned > that " reasonable doubt " is > > virtually inherent in a process that relies on a " battle of the > experts " for > > evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, doctors and scientific experts are > obviously well > > aware of their effective immunity from prosecution. They do not > need a " get > > out of jail free " card because they already have a " never go to > jail " card. > > Part of the solution is for judges to approach mass tort > litigation with a > > healthy skepticism when mass claims have been generated by the > type of > > litigation screenings used in asbestos, silica, fen-phen and > breast implant > > litigations. Integral to these litigation screenings are mass- > produced medical > > services which are manufactured for money -- practices which > flourish when courts > > insulate them from the extensive discovery presided over by Judge > Jack. > > But more is necessary to curb fraud. State and federal legislation > is needed > > to empower prosecutors to pierce doctors' and scientific experts' > effective > > immunity from criminal prosecution. Drafting legislation to > distinguish > > between legitimately disputed diagnoses or theories of causation > and manufacturing > > medical or scientific evidence for money is a daunting task. But > it is one > > that we must undertake to preserve the integrity of the civil > justice system. > > Mr. Brickman is professor of law at the Cardozo School of Law of > Yeshiva > > University. > > 4. From the UCSF Tobacco Legacy Library regarding Prof Brichman, > RJReynolds > > Documents > > _http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? > tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results_ > > (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? > tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results) > > > > " FYI - The Manhattan Institute had a call from 60 Minutes.....the > producer > > might want to call an academic, and he provided Lester Brichman's > name. " > > > > > > " In response to Dan's question I said " no " neither we nor the > litigation > > project (which technically doesn't exist!) should not reach out to > 60 Minutes or > > we'd wind up in the story or kill it. I'm not even going to tell > the cos. > > for fear PM [sic ] will try to do something " clever " . > > > > " Former Helms staffer will be joining the Institute in July as sr. > vp of > > federal grant > > > > From the Manhattan Institute website: > > _http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf_ > > > (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf) > > > " President Bush with Prof. Lester Brickman (at left) for âEURœA > Conversation on > Asbestos Litigation Reform.âEUR > " Lester Brickman > received the 2004 Legal Reform Research Award from the US > Chamber > of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. " > > From the PointofLaw > website: > > PointofLaw.com > is a website sponsored by the Center > for Legal Policy at the _Manhattan > Institute_ > (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/) and _Liability Project_ > > (http://www.aei.org/research/projectID.23/project.asp) at the > American Enterprise > Institute. Focusing on America's civil justice > system, the site includes > original discussions featuring some of > the nation's top legal scholars, an ongoing > forum on liability > issues, a bibliography of important books and articles, > and links to > topical legal news stories. Contributors:Lester Brickman is a > > professor of law at the N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva > > University. His areas of expertise include administrative > alternatives to mass tort > litigation, asbestos litigation, and > contingency fee reform. Professor Brickman > has written extensively > on these and other topics, he has testified at > congressional > hearings, and he is widely quoted in the press. > > > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > The lay translation of > the ACOEM Mold Statement was shared by the Manhattan > Institute with > the US Chamber and affiliates in July of 2003. It ends with > the > sentence, âEURœThus the notion that âEUR˜toxic moldâEUR™ is an insidious > secret âEUR˜ > killerâEUR™ as so many media reports and trial lawyers > would claim is âEUR˜Junk ScienceâEUR™ > unsupported by actual scientific > study.âEUR > > > > Just one example of thousands regarding ill health > and mold. It's a CDC doc. > _www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf_ > > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > > > Sharon Kramer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Here is an interesting protocol they could use in animal tests. They could take 100 mice , 50 of whom were housed in small " moldy homes " and 50 of whom were housed in " non moldy homes " , everything else being the same and place them in a large enclosed space, in which there were both food sources (the food sources would be physically removed from the homes by an equidistant amount) and a typical complement of hungry predators, and see how many of each group of mice were still alive at the end of say, a year or two, and how many of each group had reproduced.. the survival / reproduction rate.. That would be a much more realistic test... On 12/3/06, snk1955@... <snk1955@...> wrote: > > I agree wholeheartedly. I think it is criminal what is happening to > families for the sake of the almighty dollar. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 -sorry, don't take me wrong, i love horses and all animals.some of my best friends were animals.-- In , LiveSimply <quackadillian@...> wrote: > > One line of argument that people in mold cases are not making, but which > needs to be made. > > Human lives are much more fragile than the lives of animals living in > laboratories. The only analogy > that could be made is if a human being was living in a cage, received three > meals a day, and could not talk > or in any way explain what was happening to him or her. > > Poor people's lives are exceedingly fragile. What might not hurt a > well-to-do person so very much, > like not being able to remember at one's usual level, or sleep properly, or > remember your boss's instructions, > will quickly result in a chain reaction of devastating consequences in most > humans lives, at least those who > live normal lives. > > Animals can't talk. They can't explain what is happening to them when they > are in these experiments that are used > to 'prove' the nontoxicity of individual mycotoxins (and make no mistake > about it, when funding comes it is to 'prove' > things one way or another these days) > > In the real world, those who live in moldy buildings are subjected to a > witches brew of numerous chemical and > biological toxicants from the mold and bacteria growth in them. Their bodies > react as bodies do, with defenses > designed to protect us from death or disease. > > This is extremely disruptive and by all of OUR experiences, often results in > health issues that impact us for years, > quite possibly for our lives. > > Why do they ignore us? Why do they poison us? MONEY... > > > > On 12/3/06, snk1955@... <snk1955@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Prof Brinkman's quote from the WSJ article, False Witness: > > > > > > 1. " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental > > Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition > > that > > molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, > > school, or > > office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > > > 2. Direct quotes from ACOEM mold statement: > > " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in > > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the > > inhalation route > > of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely > > > > at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " > > > > " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human > > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, > > or > > office environments. " > > > > 3. The WSJ article, November 29, 2006: > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 There is soooo much corruption over the mold issue, it's like shooting fish in a barrel to find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 That's a good thought. Did you read about the mice they enclosed with a square of new fabric overnight? Dead in the morning. Makes ya never want to install carpet again, ever. Re: [] Re: WSJ Article " False Witness " by Lester Brinkman Here is an interesting protocol they could use in animal tests. They could take 100 mice , 50 of whom were housed in small " moldy homes " and 50 of whom were housed in " non moldy homes " , everything else being the same and place them in a large enclosed space, in which there were both food sources (the food sources would be physically removed from the homes by an equidistant amount) and a typical complement of hungry predators, and see how many of each group of mice were still alive at the end of say, a year or two, and how many of each group had reproduced.. the survival / reproduction rate.. That would be a much more realistic test... On 12/3/06, snk1955@... <snk1955@...> wrote: > > I agree wholeheartedly. I think it is criminal what is happening to > families for the sake of the almighty dollar. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 -THANK YOU SHARON,keep up the great work.-- In , snk1955@... wrote: > > > December 1, 2006 > > To The Editors of the Wall Street Journal and Mr. Lester Brinkman, > > My name is Mrs. Sharon Kramer. I advocate for those made ill from mold > exposure who are not able to obtain viable medical treatment because of much > misinformation being disseminated over the matter. > > The article entitled " False Witness " and authored by Mr. Lester Brinkman has > a misstatement of fact that is potentially harmful to many, should it not be > corrected. It is misinformation that could cause the public to be lulled > into a false and dangerous sense of security regarding indoor mold exposure. > > Mr. Brinkman wrote: " according to the American College of Occupational and > Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the > proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in > home, school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > The American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine makes no > such claims that indoor mold exposure is not harmful to human health. The area > of debate within the matter, is if an indoor exposure to mycotoxins may > produce toxic effects. > > The actual quotes from the American College of Occupational and > Environmental Medicine, Mold Statement in regard to mycotoxins are, > > 1. " Particular attention is given to the possible health effects of > mycotoxins, which give rise to much of the concern and controversy surrounding > indoor molds " > > 2. . " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation > route of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly > unlikely at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " > > 3. " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, or > office environments. " > > With regard to ill health effects known from the molds themselves, the > American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine states: > > 1. A growing body of literature associates a variety of diagnosable > respiratory illnesses (asthma, wheezing, cough, phlegm, etc.), particularly in > children, with residence in damp or water-damaged homes (see reviews 3-5). > > 2. " Allergic and other hypersensitivity responses to indoor molds may be > immunoglobulin E (IgE) or immunoglobulin G (IgG) mediated, and both types of > response are associated with exposure to indoor molds. " > > 3. Individuals with allergic airway disease should take steps to minimize > their exposure to molds and other airborne allergens, eg, animal dander, dust > mites, pollens. For these individuals, it is prudent to take feasible steps > that reduce exposure to aeroallergens and to remediate sources of indoor mold > amplification > > > 4. If evaluation of the occupational environment fails to disclose the > source of antigens, exposures in the home, school, or office should be > investigated. Once identified, the source of the mold or other inhaled foreign antigens > should be remediated. > > The following is the link to the American College of Occupational and > Environmental Medicine document. > > > > > _Evidence Based Statement | Adverse Human Health Effects Associated with > Molds in the Indoor Environment_ (http://www.acoem.org/guidelines.aspx?id=850) > > As one can clearly see, Mr. Brinkman's statement of " according to the > American College of Occupational and Environmental Medicine, current scientific > evidence does not support the proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced > by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or office environments, adversely > affect human health. " is a false statement in need of correction. > > I do agree wholeheartedly with Mr. Brinkman's evaluation of " But more is > necessary to curb fraud. State and federal legislation is needed to empower > prosecutors to pierce doctors' and scientific experts' effective immunity from > criminal prosecution. Drafting legislation to distinguish between legitimately > disputed diagnoses or theories of causation and manufacturing medical or > scientific evidence for money is a daunting task. But it is one that we must > undertake to preserve the integrity of the civil justice system. " . > > And I find that it would have been appropriate in an article entitled " False > Witness " that takes the position there is much fraud on the plaintiff side > in environmental litigation, Mr. Brinkman and the Wall Street Journal should > have disclosed to the readers, Mr. Brinkman's long history and close > affiliation with the defense side of toxic tort litigation. It should have been > disclosed to the reader of the author's close affiliation with the Manhattan > Institute. The Manhattan Institute has played a significant part in much of the > misinformation being propagated over the mold issue. > > Below are links that illustrate Mr. Brinkman's long history with the defense > side of toxic tort litigation. > > > > From the UCSF Tobacco Legacy Library regarding Mr. Brichman, RJ Reynolds > Documents > _http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results_ > (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results) > > " FYI - The Manhattan Institute had a call from 60 Minutes.....the producer > might want to call an academic, and he provided Lester Brichman's name. " > > > " In response to Dan's question I said " no " neither we nor the litigation > project (which technically doesn't exist!) should not reach out to 60 Minutes or > we'd wind up in the story or kill it. I'm not even going to tell the cos. > for fear PM [sic ] will try to do something " clever " . > > " Former Helms staffer will be joining the Institute in July as sr. vp of > federal grant > > From the Manhattan Institute website: > _http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf_ > (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf) > > " President Bush with Prof. Lester Brickman (at left) for “A Conversation on > Asbestos Litigation Reform.†> " Lester Brickman received the 2004 Legal Reform Research Award from the US > Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. " > > From the PointofLaw website: > > PointofLaw.com > is a website sponsored by the Center for Legal Policy at the _Manhattan > Institute_ (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/) and _Liability Project_ > (http://www.aei.org/research/projectID.23/project.asp) at the American Enterprise > Institute. Focusing on America's civil justice system, the site includes > original discussions featuring some of the nation's top legal scholars, an ongoing > forum on liability issues, a bibliography of important books and articles, > and links to topical legal news stories. Contributors:Lester Brickman is a > professor of law at the N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University. > His areas of expertise include administrative alternatives to mass tort > litigation, asbestos litigation, and contingency fee reform. Professor Brickman > has written extensively on these and other topics, he has testified at > congressional hearings, and he is widely quoted in the press. > > Attached is a document illustrating the US Chamber and Manhattan Institute > involvement in the mold issue. > > Additional example of the known dangers of mold exposure, the Center for > Disease Control on the subject: > _www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf_ > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > > > I thank the Wall Street Journal and Mr. Brinkman, in advance for correcting > the ironically false statement of " according to the American College of > Occupational and Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not > support the proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether > inhaled in home, school, or office environments, adversely affect human > health. " in the " False Witness " article. > > Sincerely, > Mrs. Sharon Kramer > 2031 Arborwood Place > Escondido, Ca 92029 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 My letter to the WSJ: " False Witness " and authored by Mr. Lester Brinkman It is sad to read articles like this one when you are very ill from molds growing in your home. I have been ill for nine years from mold that was growing in a home I lived in for many years. I can't begin to tell you what it was like when I started getting ill and I didn't know what was wrong with me. Can you imagine the abuse one is exposed to when you try to tell them something is wrong with your house that is making you sick. Luckily my husband could see that I was very ill, and he listened to me when I told him that mold was in the house making me ill. Some aren't so lucky and their family just ignore them. I had the Health Department come out to the house and discovered what was causing me such illness. I started educating myself in order to protect my family. Eventually my husband had seizures when we were trying to move. We were perfectly healthy before mold entered our lives. When false information is written in newspapers like the Wall Street Journal, people's lives are affected. I now have a chemical type asthma as a result of my immune system being compromised from mold. So I have to live with the mold issue and the issue with the chemicals in our products. When your body is damaged in this way, it affects your entire life. I have to stay away from mold and the many chemicals that are in everyday products such as fragrances, detergents, colognes, cleaning products. Having such a strange illness opens you up for abuse from the people that are not informed or people that read articles like the one mentioned in the email. Landlords will ignore your pleas to clean up the mold. Family's may not listen to you and you are left to suffer in those dangerous conditions. I have an inlaw that sprays cologne near me knowing that it causes me such severe pain. Unfortunately people think that if something is on the market-- well then it is safe. There is enough literature out there that this misinformation should not be causing more abuse then we have endured already. Imagine having cancer and trying to tell everyone that something is wrong, but the press is telling everyone that there is no such thing as cancer. That is how they were treated at one time. And the aids people were treated poorly. Here is a site that tells about children's asthma and its triggers and mold is of course a trigger. With the epidemic of asthma you would think that the WSJ would want to help the people suffering with asthma, etc. and give the proper information so that they can protect themselves and get away from mold if it is their basement, or use products that don't have dangerous chemicals in them. Asthma Attack Triggers - Children's Hospital of Philadelphia . Just remember when you write these articles that people are affected by what you write. I know the writers are just interested in that big story and forget who is left to pick up the pieces. How could they be so uninformed in this day and age. Delp, Delaware > > > > Prof Brinkman's quote from the WSJ article, False Witness: > > > 1. " according to the American College of Occupational and Environmental > Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that > molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, school, or > office environments, adversely affect human health. " > > 2. Direct quotes from ACOEM mold statement: > " Levels of exposure in the indoor environment, dose-response data in > animals, and dose-rate considerations suggest that delivery by the inhalation route > of a toxic dose of mycotoxins in the indoor environment is highly unlikely > at best, even for the hypothetically most vulnerable subpopulations. " > > " Current scientific evidence does not support the proposition that human > health has been adversely affected by inhaled mycotoxins in home, school, or > office environments. " > > 3. The WSJ article, November 29, 2006: > > > False Witness > By LESTER BRICKMAN > December 2, 2006; Page A9 > > Last year, in a shot heard round the mass tort world, U.S. District Court > Judge Janis Jack, presiding over 10,000 claims of silicosis -- a lung disease > caused by exposure to silica (sand) dusts, issued a report documenting > widespread, fraudulent medical diagnoses. The fraud was discovered when Judge Jack > permitted the defendants to extensively question the doctors who had diagnosed > the alleged injuries. While this sounds like standard operating procedure, > most judges would not have permitted such discovery. Indeed, the fraud would > never have come to light but for a courageous judge willing to, in effect, > put the tort system on trial. > Judge Jack largely corroborated my own published findings of fraudulent > production of medical evidence in asbestos litigation....... > Substantially the same fraudulent practices have been used in other mass > tort litigations. " Fen-phen " is one example. Several law firms and about 10 > echocardiogram companies which started screening businesses spent millions of > dollars to set up makeshift " echo mills " in hotel rooms and elsewhere to > administer echocardiograms to users of these diet drugs. Approximately a few > thousand users suffered heart valve injuries, but tens of thousands responded to > advertisements to find out whether they qualified for compensation........ > Silicone is another example. Screenings by lawyers in silicone breast > implant litigation ginned up tens of thousands of claims of connective tissue and > rheumatoid diseases that were supported by the specious diagnoses of a few > dozen doctors who were mostly referred by the lawyers. Cursory examinations -- > sometimes in lawyers' offices doubling as examining rooms -- were done on an > assembly line basis by cardiologists charging as much as $6,000 per > examination and diagnosing more than 90% of the women with symptoms that would make > them eligible for compensation. > However, the National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine concluded > that " there is no evidence that silicone breast implants contribute to an > increase in autoimmune (connective tissue) diseases . . . and [there is] no link > between implants and connective disease or rheumatic conditions. " > Nonetheless, approximately $4 billion to $5 billion has been paid by the manufacturers > for connective tissue and autoimmune disease claims. > Mold litigation is still another example of a mass tort infected by > fraudulent medical and scientific evidence. Mold is a ubiquitous fungus to which > everyone is exposed; according to the American College of Occupational and > Environmental Medicine, current scientific evidence does not support the > proposition that molds or the mycotoxins produced by molds, whether inhaled in home, > school, or office environments, adversely affect human health. The scientific > evidence notwithstanding, mold litigation, a multibillion dollar industry, > proceeds because a small number of experts paid fees of as much as $10,000 a > day have regularly testified that mold causes a terrifying array of diseases > from lung cancer to cirrhosis of the liver. > While there are ongoing federal investigations of silica and asbestos > litigation in New York and of fen-phen litigation in Philadelphia, federal > prosecutors have not indicted the doctors and scientific experts. To prove fraud in > those cases will require the testimony of other doctors and scientific > experts; and it may be that prosecutors are concerned that " reasonable doubt " is > virtually inherent in a process that relies on a " battle of the experts " for > evidence of fraud. Meanwhile, doctors and scientific experts are obviously well > aware of their effective immunity from prosecution. They do not need a " get > out of jail free " card because they already have a " never go to jail " card. > Part of the solution is for judges to approach mass tort litigation with a > healthy skepticism when mass claims have been generated by the type of > litigation screenings used in asbestos, silica, fen-phen and breast implant > litigations. Integral to these litigation screenings are mass- produced medical > services which are manufactured for money -- practices which flourish when courts > insulate them from the extensive discovery presided over by Judge Jack. > But more is necessary to curb fraud. State and federal legislation is needed > to empower prosecutors to pierce doctors' and scientific experts' effective > immunity from criminal prosecution. Drafting legislation to distinguish > between legitimately disputed diagnoses or theories of causation and manufacturing > medical or scientific evidence for money is a daunting task. But it is one > that we must undertake to preserve the integrity of the civil justice system. > Mr. Brickman is professor of law at the Cardozo School of Law of Yeshiva > University. > 4. From the UCSF Tobacco Legacy Library regarding Prof Brichman, RJReynolds > Documents > _http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results_ > (http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc? tid=mcl46a00 & fmt=pdf & ref=results) > > " FYI - The Manhattan Institute had a call from 60 Minutes.....the producer > might want to call an academic, and he provided Lester Brichman's name. " > > > " In response to Dan's question I said " no " neither we nor the litigation > project (which technically doesn't exist!) should not reach out to 60 Minutes or > we'd wind up in the story or kill it. I'm not even going to tell the cos. > for fear PM [sic ] will try to do something " clever " . > > " Former Helms staffer will be joining the Institute in July as sr. vp of > federal grant > > From the Manhattan Institute website: > _http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf_ > (http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/life/summer2005/pdf/faculty_briefs.pdf) > > " President Bush with Prof. Lester Brickman (at left) for “A Conversation on > Asbestos Litigation Reform.†> " Lester Brickman received the 2004 Legal Reform Research Award from the US > Chamber of Commerce Institute for Legal Reform. " > > From the PointofLaw website: > > PointofLaw.com > is a website sponsored by the Center for Legal Policy at the _Manhattan > Institute_ (http://www.manhattan-institute.org/) and _Liability Project_ > (http://www.aei.org/research/projectID.23/project.asp) at the American Enterprise > Institute. Focusing on America's civil justice system, the site includes > original discussions featuring some of the nation's top legal scholars, an ongoing > forum on liability issues, a bibliography of important books and articles, > and links to topical legal news stories. Contributors:Lester Brickman is a > professor of law at the N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva > University. His areas of expertise include administrative alternatives to mass tort > litigation, asbestos litigation, and contingency fee reform. Professor Brickman > has written extensively on these and other topics, he has testified at > congressional hearings, and he is widely quoted in the press. > > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > The lay translation of the ACOEM Mold Statement was shared by the Manhattan > Institute with the US Chamber and affiliates in July of 2003. It ends with > the sentence, “Thus the notion that ‘toxic mold’ is an insidious secret ‘ > killer’ as so many media reports and trial lawyers would claim is ‘Junk Science’ > unsupported by actual scientific study.†> > > > Just one example of thousands regarding ill health and mold. It's a CDC doc. > _www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf_ > (http://www.otispregnancy.org/pdf/mold.pdf) > > > Sharon Kramer > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Sharon, That sounded GREAT!!!!! Thank you for taking the time to write them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:45:51 EST, snk1955@... wrote: >There is soooo much corruption over the mold issue, it's like shooting fish >in a barrel to find it. This is where EVERYONE Lawyers, victims, activist's, need to document the deciet and lies so we can come back and put the screws to these individuals when the dam breaks and the truth comes out. If you read misleading articles online save them, (especially the names of so called expert's they referenced, organisations, etc.) if you listen to Dr dean Edell on the radio record his false or misleading statements about mold, or MCS, or vaccinations, or breast implants, or GWS. Save misleading quackwatch articles. When the truth comes out every one of us, can consolidate this data show how it hurt us and sue those that produced it AND the platform they used to do it. AKA the wall street journal, ABC, Clear Channel etc. There are different ways to save material online: From explorer you can go to the file menu and click on " save as " This is the preferable way to do it. Second would be to use a screen capture program like snagit (great program) http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.asp?CMP=KgoogleSgen82tm Third would be to cut and paste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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