Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and dealing with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I am a ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and I find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and under attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to manage the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart broken and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond Codependency and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! These books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes what I recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am right where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest forms of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading older posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my therapist. This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. I am grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have helped me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic Parent and SWOE. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Melody Beattie is seriously next on my reading list!! A friend highly recommended her and I've been meaning to pick up some of her books, so thanks for the reminder! Self-care is a major issue for me right now, as is the issue of co-dependency because I've realized I have the totally common KO problem of always putting others needs first. I've also been reading through some Al-Anon literature -- replacing BPD for alcoholism -- and have found it VERY helpful. I'm putting off reading UBM for now, though. The excerpt posted here a few days ago was incredible -- SO powerful -- I must've read it through ten times that day. I just feel like, for a while, I want to stop reading about el Nada and her illness and start focusing more on me and how I can take care of myself better here in the present, if that makes sense... Anyhow, I don't know if you've read " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " but that's a good one too! Shana School Anxiety and Affirmations To: WTOAdultChildren1 > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > dealing > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I > am a > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and > I > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > under > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > manage > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > broken > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > Codependency > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! > These > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes > what I > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am > right > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest > forms > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > older > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > therapist. > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. > I am > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > helped > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > suggestions > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > Parent > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 , I also started teaching high school at a time when I was also dealing with the BPD in my family (and realizing it's existance). That's a very tough combination. I found that I felt really sensitive and around high school students that's not always ideal. Besides, normal adolescent behavior is sometimes very reminiscent of BP-adult behavior (black and white thinking, raging, distortion of reality etc.). It's not an easy combination and I'm glad that you're getting the help you need. Also, I had a pretty negative experience with UBM. It was interesting and I learned a lot, but I feel that the language of the book and the way the information was presented was kind of anxiety ridden and dramatic. I don't think that's really the kind of tone I needed when I was first learning about BPD! I felt hugely stressed at that book--although the info was valuable. Trish > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and dealing > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I am a > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and I > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and under > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to manage > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart broken > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond Codependency > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! These > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes what I > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am right > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest forms > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading older > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my therapist. > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. I am > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have helped > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic Parent > and SWOE. Thank you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Thanks Shana. Someone also recommended to me Alnon and ACoA, Adult Children of Alcoholics. Your post reminded me too and after reading it I went to both websites and found a lot of similarities with being raised by a BPD parent. My nada went through phases of substance abuse, alcohol, prescription medication,and so on. From UBM I found my nada to be a Waif/Witch. I want to get Surviving a Borderline Parent, but like you, REALLY need to take a break, absorb what I have learned so far, and concentrate on taking care of myself. UBM is a wonderful book but it was really unsettling to recognize so much of what I experienced and to also really begin to understand my FLEAS. I definitely need to learn to stay present and not feel like a selfish person putting myself as my number one priority. Thanks again, > > Melody Beattie is seriously next on my reading list!! A friend highly recommended her and I've been meaning to pick up some of her books, so thanks for the reminder! Self-care is a major issue for me right now, as is the issue of co-dependency because I've realized I have the totally common KO problem of always putting others needs first. I've also been reading through some Al-Anon literature -- replacing BPD for alcoholism -- and have found it VERY helpful. > > I'm putting off reading UBM for now, though. The excerpt posted here a few days ago was incredible -- SO powerful -- I must've read it through ten times that day. > > I just feel like, for a while, I want to stop reading about el Nada and her illness and start focusing more on me and how I can take care of myself better here in the present, if that makes sense... > > Anyhow, I don't know if you've read " Surviving the Borderline Parent, " but that's a good one too! > > Shana > > School Anxiety and Affirmations > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > > dealing > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I > > am a > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and > > I > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > > under > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > > manage > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > > broken > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > > Codependency > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! > > These > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes > > what I > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am > > right > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest > > forms > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > > older > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > > therapist. > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. > > I am > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > > helped > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > > suggestions > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > > Parent > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Thanks Trish. I felt exactly the same way after reading UBM. It is a wonderfully validating book but really triggered a lot of self-hate and anger towards myself, Foo, and just the plain fact of this being my reality and the long road ahead. The hardest part is accepting my FLEAS. I really identified with the traits associated with the HERMIT. I have a tendency to avoid people and isolate myself. I think it is my way of controlling my environment and not having to worry what people think about me. Sometimes, or lately MOST of the time, I would rather just be with my two cats and lose myself in good book. I am conditioned to believe everyone can see my defects and I walk into situations assuming people will not like me. Nada conditioning I suppose. Interviewing for a teaching position was extremely tramatic for me. I don't do well with rejection or selling myself. Dealing with finding a job, going NC with FOO, and nada's distortion campaign felt like a chisel and hammer chipping away at all of my courage and self-worth. Reading about your experiences and others has given me courage to find my way. Thanks, > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and dealing > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I am a > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and I > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and under > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to manage > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart broken > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond Codependency > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! These > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes what I > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am right > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest forms > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading older > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my therapist. > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. I am > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have helped > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic Parent > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 I have free time during Thanksgiving for healing and educational reading of BPD books, I was wondering if you would recommend regement of books, like SWOE or UBM? And at what pace should I read these (which to start with mid-way breakups all the way to the hardest material)? Thank you, > > > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > dealing > > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that I > am a > > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher and > I > > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > under > > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > manage > > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > broken > > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > Codependency > > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So HELPFUL!! > These > > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes what > I > > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am right > > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the simpliest > forms > > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > older > > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > therapist. > > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right path. I > am > > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > helped > > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > suggestions > > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > Parent > > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Hi , Reading about what you are going through and all of the pressures of college readings and assignments allow yourself time to just sleep, have fun, and relax at Thanksgiving. It is really a short holiday and most schools have finals right after. I graduated with my B.S. last December and can relate to being in the final stretch of your undergraduate career. Good Luck to you! It is a huge accomplishment and you should be extremely proud of yourself. I don't think there is a specific pace or order in which to read any of these books. Last Spring I first stumbled across a used copy of Toxic Parent by Forward at a book fair. It lead me to Stop Walking on Eggshells by Randi Kreger(and lead me to this group) and then just recently Understanding the Borderline Personality Mother by Lawson, which I read in the last few weeks. All of these books are great at recognizing and identifying what we have been through, but for me were really emotionally difficult to get through. The two books helping me get through the daily emotions are Melody Beattie's Beyond Codependency and The Language of Letting Go. For me it really helps to look at my progress as recovery and these books talk about self- care and affirmations. Until recently it never occurred to me to think of myself as a codependent when dealing with FOO and nada, but to me it makes sense. The Language of Letting Go is a daily meditation book and gives you something to different to think about each day. It helps a lot in between the appointments I have with my therapist and the meditations are very brief, so it isn't a lot of reading. Even though I am NC with nada, I still need to constantly work on my negative thinking and look at it as reprogramming my brain! I hope this helps and the wonderful thing about books is that they speak differently to each person and there is so much to choose from. I did a lot of looking at bookstores and on Amazon.com before buying. I hope this helps! > > > > > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > > dealing > > > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that > I > > am a > > > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher > and > > I > > > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > > under > > > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > > manage > > > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > > broken > > > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > > Codependency > > > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So > HELPFUL!! > > These > > > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes > what > > I > > > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am > right > > > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the > simpliest > > forms > > > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > > older > > > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > > therapist. > > > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right > path. I > > am > > > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > > helped > > > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > > suggestions > > > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > > Parent > > > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 The Artist Way is a wonderful book you might want to put on your list for later. It is a 12 week program to rediscover your inner creativity. I think it is especially relevant for KOs as Foos seem to try to drive the creativity right out of you. It has been life changing for me. It's not about bpd, but you can tell she knows a few. There is one part where she describes " crazymakers " and there is no doubt she is describing bpd types. Fresabird > I have free time during Thanksgiving for healing and educational > reading of BPD books, I was wondering if you would recommend > regement of books, like SWOE or UBM? And at what pace should I read > these (which to start with mid-way breakups all the way to the > hardest material)? > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > > dealing > > > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that > I > > am a > > > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher > and > > I > > > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > > under > > > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > > manage > > > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > > broken > > > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > > Codependency > > > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So > HELPFUL!! > > These > > > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes > what > > I > > > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am > right > > > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the > simpliest > > forms > > > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > > older > > > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > > therapist. > > > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right > path. I > > am > > > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > > helped > > > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > > suggestions > > > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > > Parent > > > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 , if you're interested in doing reading about this stuff and money's a concern, I just wanted to let you know about a site called ABE books (American Book Exchange) that sells new, used and even hard-to-find books from independent sellers WAY cheap! (I just ordered two Melody Beattie books yesterday, for example, and it came to $8 with shipping). The link is www.abebooks.com And , I can really relate to where you are now and find a lot of validation and insight from reading your postings -- so regardless of what your low-self-esteem fleas might be telling you, I'm really glad that you're posting here and sharing your experience! Shana Re: School Anxiety and Affirmations To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Hi , > > Reading about what you are going through and all of the > pressures of > college readings and assignments allow yourself time to just > sleep, > have fun, and relax at Thanksgiving. It is really a short > holiday and > most schools have finals right after. I graduated with my B.S. > last > December and can relate to being in the final stretch of your > undergraduate career. Good Luck to you! It is a huge > accomplishment > and you should be extremely proud of yourself. I don't think > there is > a specific pace or order in which to read any of these books. > Last > Spring I first stumbled across a used copy of Toxic Parent by > > Forward at a book fair. It lead me to Stop Walking on Eggshells > by > Randi Kreger(and lead me to this group) and then just recently > Understanding the Borderline Personality Mother by > Lawson, > which I read in the last few weeks. All of these books are great > at > recognizing and identifying what we have been through, but for > me > were really emotionally difficult to get through. The two books > helping me get through the daily emotions are Melody Beattie's > Beyond > Codependency and The Language of Letting Go. For me it really > helps > to look at my progress as recovery and these books talk about > self- > care and affirmations. Until recently it never occurred to me to > think of myself as a codependent when dealing with FOO and nada, > but > to me it makes sense. The Language of Letting Go is a daily > meditation book and gives you something to different to think > about > each day. It helps a lot in between the appointments I have with > my > therapist and the meditations are very brief, so it isn't a lot > of > reading. Even though I am NC with nada, I still need to > constantly > work on my negative thinking and look at it as reprogramming my > brain! I hope this helps and the wonderful thing about books is > that > they speak differently to each person and there is so much to > choose > from. I did a lot of looking at bookstores and on Amazon.com > before > buying. I hope this helps! > > > > > > > > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be > really > > > > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with > working and > > > dealing > > > > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion > campaigns > that > > I > > > am a > > > > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school > teacher > > and > > > I > > > > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest > incidents > > > > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so > vulnerable > and > > > under > > > > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really > difficult to > > > manage > > > > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left > heart > > > broken > > > > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my > own > > > > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > > > Codependency > > > > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So > > HELPFUL!! > > > These > > > > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and > takes > > what > > > I > > > > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the > way > to > > > > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I > am > > right > > > > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a > recovery > > > > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the > > simpliest > > > forms > > > > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from > reading > > > older > > > > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with > my > > > therapist. > > > > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the > right > > path. I > > > am > > > > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences > have > > > helped > > > > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > > > suggestions > > > > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read > Toxic > > > Parent > > > > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 , Freeasabird and all, I second that, The Artist's Way is a great workbook for getting out from under the self-criticism and get back in touch with yourself after a lifetime of BP proximity! Trish > > > > > > > > > > I found the recent postings about school anxiety to be really > > > > > helpful. I started graduate school and along with working and > > > dealing > > > > > with my recent NC with FOO and their distortion campaigns that > > I > > > am a > > > > > ticking stress bomb. I am recently a new high school teacher > > and > > > I > > > > > find that lately I am so sensitive to the smallest incidents > > > > > dealing with disruptive students that I feel so vulnerable and > > > under > > > > > attack. My nerves are so raw and it seems really difficult to > > > manage > > > > > the simpliest tasks/emotions. I recently finished UBM by > > > > > > > > Lawson. While it was extremely validating, I was left heart > > > broken > > > > > and drained, recognizing sooooooo much that resembled my own > > > > > experiences. I recently bought Melody Beattie's Beyond > > > Codependency > > > > > and The Language of Letting Go and these books are So > > HELPFUL!! > > > These > > > > > books are helping me survive this recovery process and takes > > what > > > I > > > > > recognize as FLEAS and BPD traits and helps me find the way to > > > > > overcome learned behaviors and to accept and know that I am > > right > > > > > where I should be in life and that all of this is a recovery > > > > > process.I think as a KO that I don't seem to know the > > simpliest > > > forms > > > > > of self care and these books(which I discovered from reading > > > older > > > > > posts from this group)are showing me the way along with my > > > therapist. > > > > > This is hard work, it hurts, but I know I am on the right > > path. I > > > am > > > > > grateful to everyone who posts. Sharing your experiences have > > > helped > > > > > me and I don't feel alone anymore. Does anyone have any > > > suggestions > > > > > for any other books that might be helpful? I have read Toxic > > > Parent > > > > > and SWOE. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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