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Manal,

I don't see any reason why a woman couldn't get the same benefits.

Here's a link on another tape " made for men " " Men's Arms of Steel by

Gilad " and how many women have gotten great benefits out of it. Usually

you do the same exercises anyway.

http://www.videofitness.com/reviews/giladarms.php

I know of many women and men who work out together with the same videos

at home and both get the same benefits.

Colleen

(unknown)

thanx colleen :) the thing is that i have arms of

steel for men and my sister says that its made for men

not for women and that i should not do it ? so i want

to make sure its ok for me to do it

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I am upset and sad by cause she is upset by nne only and not

by me

So people should be upset by me, is that true?

NO, Grrr

What happens in reality, are they upset by you?

No, every one loves me, yak

My work is done.

T

-- (unknown)

I am saddened and disappointed in nne because I feel that she is not

supportive or helpful to me on this forum in my attempts to live my

integrity and apply the work to my life.

So, M should be suportive of my attempts to live my integrity and apply

the work to my life. Is that true?

YES! That is why I am involved in this forum. I need support and

encouragement here, I get enough other shit from life outside the forum to

do the work on, here I want people to apply the principles of the work and

encourage and support me and others in doing

so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I absolutely know that M should do this? Can I know it would be

better for mypath if M was more supportive to me? Can I know more than God?

What is the reality?

I cannot absolutely know that M should respond in a way that seems

supportive to me. In reality she responds from her own place of integrity,

regardless of how that looks to me.

How do I react? I see her responses to me as challenges. I see her

attempting to correct me and not others. I see her as thinking that she

needs to rescue and defend. I see her as taking sides....again. I see her

as giving LAA to her 'favourites' rather than using the forum to move and

support the principles of the work. I feel tired. I defend myself. I try

to clarify to show that I am trying to do the work here, not attack or

criticise other members. I feel attacked by her, criticised by her. I see

her as contributing to an 'us and them' mentallity between certain members.

I feel discouraged and hopeless around the thought of trying to get support

for doing the work and applying it in my life.

What do I get for holding this belief?

I get to play the role of victim. I get to defend myself (go to war...),

I get to try to prove that I am right and she is wrong. I get to feel

discouraged and weary. I get to find ways to debate rather than do the work

on what is arising within me...

Who would I b e without the thought?

I would see nne's responses to me as her opinions. I would be more

able to find the truth in what she is saying, if not now, or in what I write

here, perhaps in my thoughts, and in my past reactions to others. I would

feel supported and encouraged regardless of her words. I would feel the

support and encouragement that is available from others, from everyone, from

everything. I might be able to feel that this is happening for me instead

of feeling that it is happening to me....

Turn around:

nne should not be supportive to me ~ until she is.

I should be supportive of me ~ yes.

I should be supportive of Marrianne ~ yes, it feels kinder to me when I am

supportive.

nne IS supportive of me ~ this could be just as true, whether I see

it or not. I can't feel this, and I can see that it may be just as true.

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dah TA I think Tami your work is done when you love everyone..

And i think you love and CAtherine

Your mind is caught in the illusion. Ask spirit or Steve.

I'm caught in the illusion also, rh

>

> I am upset and sad by cause she is upset by nne only

and not

> by me

>

> So people should be upset by me, is that true?

>

> NO, Grrr

>

> What happens in reality, are they upset by you?

> No, every one loves me, yak

>

> My work is done.

>

> T

>

> -- (unknown)

>

> I am saddened and disappointed in nne because I feel that she

is not

> supportive or helpful to me on this forum in my attempts to live my

> integrity and apply the work to my life.

>

> So, M should be suportive of my attempts to live my integrity and

apply

> the work to my life. Is that true?

>

> YES! That is why I am involved in this forum. I need support and

> encouragement here, I get enough other shit from life outside the

forum to

> do the work on, here I want people to apply the principles of the

work and

> encourage and support me and others in doing

> so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Can I absolutely know that M should do this? Can I know it would be

> better for mypath if M was more supportive to me? Can I know more

than God?

> What is the reality?

>

> I cannot absolutely know that M should respond in a way that seems

> supportive to me. In reality she responds from her own place of

integrity,

> regardless of how that looks to me.

>

> How do I react? I see her responses to me as challenges. I see her

> attempting to correct me and not others. I see her as thinking that she

> needs to rescue and defend. I see her as taking sides....again. I

see her

> as giving LAA to her 'favourites' rather than using the forum to

move and

> support the principles of the work. I feel tired. I defend myself.

I try

> to clarify to show that I am trying to do the work here, not attack or

> criticise other members. I feel attacked by her, criticised by her.

I see

> her as contributing to an 'us and them' mentallity between certain

members.

> I feel discouraged and hopeless around the thought of trying to get

support

> for doing the work and applying it in my life.

>

> What do I get for holding this belief?

>

> I get to play the role of victim. I get to defend myself (go to

war...),

> I get to try to prove that I am right and she is wrong. I get to feel

> discouraged and weary. I get to find ways to debate rather than do

the work

> on what is arising within me...

>

> Who would I b e without the thought?

>

> I would see nne's responses to me as her opinions. I would

be more

> able to find the truth in what she is saying, if not now, or in what

I write

> here, perhaps in my thoughts, and in my past reactions to others. I

would

> feel supported and encouraged regardless of her words. I would feel the

> support and encouragement that is available from others, from

everyone, from

> everything. I might be able to feel that this is happening for me

instead

> of feeling that it is happening to me....

>

> Turn around:

>

> nne should not be supportive to me ~ until she is.

>

> I should be supportive of me ~ yes.

>

> I should be supportive of Marrianne ~ yes, it feels kinder to me

when I am

> supportive.

>

> nne IS supportive of me ~ this could be just as true, whether

I see

> it or not. I can't feel this, and I can see that it may be just as

true.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

>

>

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My work is done when I love everyone?

I don't think so!

My work is done when I love what is!

If I experience hatred for someone, that is what is

that is the highest emotion that I need to experience!

Loving what is, not love to love. Grrr

-- (unknown)

>

> I am saddened and disappointed in nne because I feel that she

is not

> supportive or helpful to me on this forum in my attempts to live my

> integrity and apply the work to my life.

>

> So, M should be suportive of my attempts to live my integrity and

apply

> the work to my life. Is that true?

>

> YES! That is why I am involved in this forum. I need support and

> encouragement here, I get enough other shit from life outside the

forum to

> do the work on, here I want people to apply the principles of the

work and

> encourage and support me and others in doing

> so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Can I absolutely know that M should do this? Can I know it would be

> better for mypath if M was more supportive to me? Can I know more

than God?

> What is the reality?

>

> I cannot absolutely know that M should respond in a way that seems

> supportive to me. In reality she responds from her own place of

integrity,

> regardless of how that looks to me.

>

> How do I react? I see her responses to me as challenges. I see her

> attempting to correct me and not others. I see her as thinking that she

> needs to rescue and defend. I see her as taking sides....again. I

see her

> as giving LAA to her 'favourites' rather than using the forum to

move and

> support the principles of the work. I feel tired. I defend myself.

I try

> to clarify to show that I am trying to do the work here, not attack or

> criticise other members. I feel attacked by her, criticised by her.

I see

> her as contributing to an 'us and them' mentallity between certain

members.

> I feel discouraged and hopeless around the thought of trying to get

support

> for doing the work and applying it in my life.

>

> What do I get for holding this belief?

>

> I get to play the role of victim. I get to defend myself (go to

war...),

> I get to try to prove that I am right and she is wrong. I get to feel

> discouraged and weary. I get to find ways to debate rather than do

the work

> on what is arising within me...

>

> Who would I b e without the thought?

>

> I would see nne's responses to me as her opinions. I would

be more

> able to find the truth in what she is saying, if not now, or in what

I write

> here, perhaps in my thoughts, and in my past reactions to others. I

would

> feel supported and encouraged regardless of her words. I would feel the

> support and encouragement that is available from others, from

everyone, from

> everything. I might be able to feel that this is happening for me

instead

> of feeling that it is happening to me....

>

> Turn around:

>

> nne should not be supportive to me ~ until she is.

>

> I should be supportive of me ~ yes.

>

> I should be supportive of Marrianne ~ yes, it feels kinder to me

when I am

> supportive.

>

> nne IS supportive of me ~ this could be just as true, whether

I see

> it or not. I can't feel this, and I can see that it may be just as

true.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

>

>

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hatred would imply stress and a need to do the work.

because our true nature is to love.

Isnt that why says do the work on someone you have not forgiven

100 per cent. ?

But since you dont do the work i guess its ok. I wont argue with what is

I dont much either .. But i admire people who do.

I'm going to see katie tomorrow- will let you know how it goes.

love, roslyn..

-- In Loving-what-is , Tamar Fattal wrote:

>

> My work is done when I love everyone?

> I don't think so!

>

> My work is done when I love what is!

>

> If I experience hatred for someone, that is what is

> that is the highest emotion that I need to experience!

>

> Loving what is, not love to love. Grrr

>

>

>

> -- (unknown)

> >

> > I am saddened and disappointed in nne because I feel that she

> is not

> > supportive or helpful to me on this forum in my attempts to live my

> > integrity and apply the work to my life.

> >

> > So, M should be suportive of my attempts to live my integrity and

> apply

> > the work to my life. Is that true?

> >

> > YES! That is why I am involved in this forum. I need support and

> > encouragement here, I get enough other shit from life outside the

> forum to

> > do the work on, here I want people to apply the principles of the

> work and

> > encourage and support me and others in doing

> > so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > Can I absolutely know that M should do this? Can I know it would be

> > better for mypath if M was more supportive to me? Can I know more

> than God?

> > What is the reality?

> >

> > I cannot absolutely know that M should respond in a way that seems

> > supportive to me. In reality she responds from her own place of

> integrity,

> > regardless of how that looks to me.

> >

> > How do I react? I see her responses to me as challenges. I see her

> > attempting to correct me and not others. I see her as thinking

that she

> > needs to rescue and defend. I see her as taking sides....again. I

> see her

> > as giving LAA to her 'favourites' rather than using the forum to

> move and

> > support the principles of the work. I feel tired. I defend myself.

> I try

> > to clarify to show that I am trying to do the work here, not attack or

> > criticise other members. I feel attacked by her, criticised by her.

> I see

> > her as contributing to an 'us and them' mentallity between certain

> members.

> > I feel discouraged and hopeless around the thought of trying to get

> support

> > for doing the work and applying it in my life.

> >

> > What do I get for holding this belief?

> >

> > I get to play the role of victim. I get to defend myself (go to

> war...),

> > I get to try to prove that I am right and she is wrong. I get to feel

> > discouraged and weary. I get to find ways to debate rather than do

> the work

> > on what is arising within me...

> >

> > Who would I b e without the thought?

> >

> > I would see nne's responses to me as her opinions. I would

> be more

> > able to find the truth in what she is saying, if not now, or in what

> I write

> > here, perhaps in my thoughts, and in my past reactions to others. I

> would

> > feel supported and encouraged regardless of her words. I would

feel the

> > support and encouragement that is available from others, from

> everyone, from

> > everything. I might be able to feel that this is happening for me

> instead

> > of feeling that it is happening to me....

> >

> > Turn around:

> >

> > nne should not be supportive to me ~ until she is.

> >

> > I should be supportive of me ~ yes.

> >

> > I should be supportive of Marrianne ~ yes, it feels kinder to me

> when I am

> > supportive.

> >

> > nne IS supportive of me ~ this could be just as true, whether

> I see

> > it or not. I can't feel this, and I can see that it may be just as

> true.

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

> >

> >

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> > >

> > > I am upset and sad by cause she is upset by nne

only

> > and not

> > > by me

> > >

> > > So people should be upset by me, is that true?

> > >

> > > NO, Grrr

> > >

> > > What happens in reality, are they upset by you?

> > > No, every one loves me, yak

> > >

> > > My work is done.

> > >

> > > T

> > >

> > > -- (unknown)

> > >

> > > I am saddened and disappointed in nne because I feel that

she

> > is not

> > > supportive or helpful to me on this forum in my attempts to

live my

> > > integrity and apply the work to my life.

> > >

> > > So, M should be suportive of my attempts to live my

integrity and

> > apply

> > > the work to my life. Is that true?

> > >

> > > YES! That is why I am involved in this forum. I need

support and

> > > encouragement here, I get enough other shit from life outside

the

> > forum to

> > > do the work on, here I want people to apply the principles of

the

> > work and

> > > encourage and support me and others in doing

> > > so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > Can I absolutely know that M should do this? Can I know it

would be

> > > better for mypath if M was more supportive to me? Can I know

more

> > than God?

> > > What is the reality?

> > >

> > > I cannot absolutely know that M should respond in a way that

seems

> > > supportive to me. In reality she responds from her own place

of

> > integrity,

> > > regardless of how that looks to me.

> > >

> > > How do I react? I see her responses to me as challenges. I

see her

> > > attempting to correct me and not others. I see her as thinking

> that she

> > > needs to rescue and defend. I see her as taking

sides....again. I

> > see her

> > > as giving LAA to her 'favourites' rather than using the forum

to

> > move and

> > > support the principles of the work. I feel tired. I defend

myself.

> > I try

> > > to clarify to show that I am trying to do the work here, not

attack or

> > > criticise other members. I feel attacked by her, criticised

by her.

> > I see

> > > her as contributing to an 'us and them' mentallity between

certain

> > members.

> > > I feel discouraged and hopeless around the thought of trying

to get

> > support

> > > for doing the work and applying it in my life.

> > >

> > > What do I get for holding this belief?

> > >

> > > I get to play the role of victim. I get to defend myself

(go to

> > war...),

> > > I get to try to prove that I am right and she is wrong. I get

to feel

> > > discouraged and weary. I get to find ways to debate rather

than do

> > the work

> > > on what is arising within me...

> > >

> > > Who would I b e without the thought?

> > >

> > > I would see nne's responses to me as her opinions. I

would

> > be more

> > > able to find the truth in what she is saying, if not now, or

in what

> > I write

> > > here, perhaps in my thoughts, and in my past reactions to

others. I

> > would

> > > feel supported and encouraged regardless of her words. I would

> feel the

> > > support and encouragement that is available from others, from

> > everyone, from

> > > everything. I might be able to feel that this is happening

for me

> > instead

> > > of feeling that it is happening to me....

> > >

> > > Turn around:

> > >

> > > nne should not be supportive to me ~ until she is.

> > >

> > > I should be supportive of me ~ yes.

> > >

> > > I should be supportive of Marrianne ~ yes, it feels kinder

to me

> > when I am

> > > supportive.

> > >

> > > nne IS supportive of me ~ this could be just as true,

whether

> > I see

> > > it or not. I can't feel this, and I can see that it may be

just as

> > true.

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos

> > >

> > >

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I believe that it is very helpful to go to a review session. It is well

worth the effort.

Hope this helps

Jackie

Jackie Magyar, M.Ed, RD, CDE

Registered Dietitian

Triwest Healthcare Alliance

________________________________

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

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Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:14 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: (unknown)

Hello Everyone,

I am taking the American Dietetic (RD) exam any advice? this June

thank you

Loi

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thanks Jackie

" Magyar, Jackie " wrote: I believe that it is very helpful

to go to a review session. It is well

worth the effort.

Hope this helps

Jackie

Jackie Magyar, M.Ed, RD, CDE

Registered Dietitian

Triwest Healthcare Alliance

________________________________

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Loi

Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:14 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: (unknown)

Hello Everyone,

I am taking the American Dietetic (RD) exam any advice? this June

thank you

Loi

---------------------------------

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Sue,

I know exactly what you mean about the possibility of loving them more! Even

though we found out there was a possibility Ollie might have DS the day after he

was born, I have held him a little tighter and longer since then.

I told people. I had to, because I was having a real hard time with his

diagnosis and it helped to talk about it. It was amazing too. All of our

family and friends were so supprotive. Not showing pity, but support. I know

they prayed for us a little more too.

I had doctors tell me not to tell anyone too because of the MDS diagnosis. They

said that people probably wouldn't ever be able to tell. I don't know what good

that would have done. I don't go around using it a conversation starter either

though. If it comes up in conversation, I am not embarassed to to talk about

it. You have to do what makes you comfortable.

As far as the labeling, kids get labled all of the time. I am subbing for a

middle school resource teacher right now and they all get labled at some time

general ed and spec.ed. kids. Some good and some not. It's just the way it is.

Enjoy Isabella and Good Luck!

Angie

Ollie 13 months

To: MosaicDS@...: suejohnson524@...: Thu, 25 Oct 2007

18:26:35 -0700Subject: (unknown)

Hi Everyone,I have a bit of a dilemma. We were at the doctors last week.. We

went to a genetic specialist and to the ds clinic. On doctor suggested we do not

tell anyone that Isabella has mds and xxx, so it would not label her. The other

doctor said we would always have to be explaining her behavior. Isabella does

not have the physical characteristics of ds so I guess the one doctor figured

nobody would know. I am not ashamed she has mds or xxx, this was out of our

control and we love her just the same, maybe more if that is possible. I am

still trying to figure out what the other doctor meant by explaining her

behavior when she get older. Just what does she think she will act like or do? I

have told my family and close friends its not some dirty little secret, yet now

I am afraid it will label her. Any suggestions on what all of you have done in

this situation.Sue__________________________________________________Do You

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