Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Can ESLD reverse itself? Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest was > in > > > his > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next was > in > > > his > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have > > > another > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > months > > > ago > > > > I > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and lost > 40 > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in pretty > > bad > > > > > shape > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself for > a > > > > couple > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > thyroid > > > > pill > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a day > > but > > > my > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape > > except > > > > for > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to mow > > the > > > > yard > > > > > > but > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that > > helps > > > a > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is > in > > a > > > > > couple > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > not.. > > > > About > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see > > > > anything.. > > > > > He > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > told > > > him > > > > > > about > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > when > > my > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > anything > > > to > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > hints, > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Generally, the answer to that is no. However, when I was first diagnosed, I started wondering why, if a live donor's remaining liver, and the partial liver which is transplanted can regenerate, why can't a liver regenerate itself. I was told that it was a different thing because of the scarring on the cirrhosis liver. And also, the liver does try to make new cells, but they get blocked off by the scar tissue so they really can't work. (isn't this what you said once Abijann) But, my doctor did not rule out a minute possibility. He held his thumb and forefinger so close together you really couldn't see between them and said that is the chance. Not much, but enough that if you do get a miracle you can know it is real. And I think any cases where it has happened have been miracles. Jan H > Can ESLD reverse itself? > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest > was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next > was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have > > > > another > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > months > > > > ago > > > > > I > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > lost > > 40 > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > pretty > > > bad > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself > for > > a > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > thyroid > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a > day > > > but > > > > my > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape > > > except > > > > > for > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to > mow > > > the > > > > > yard > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that > > > helps > > > > a > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is > > in > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > not.. > > > > > About > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > told > > > > him > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > when > > > my > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > anything > > > > to > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > hints, > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest > was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next > was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have > > > > another > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > months > > > > ago > > > > > I > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > lost > > 40 > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > pretty > > > bad > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself > for > > a > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > thyroid > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a > day > > > but > > > > my > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape > > > except > > > > > for > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to > mow > > > the > > > > > yard > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that > > > helps > > > > a > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is > > in > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > not.. > > > > > About > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > told > > > > him > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > when > > > my > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > anything > > > > to > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > hints, > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I think I am probably the farthest west on this group. And I sleep in the livingroom in my recliner. Ed watches TV until midnight usually so I can't go to sleep until after that. Jan H > Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > have > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > months > > > > > ago > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > lost > > > 40 > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > pretty > > > > bad > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself > > for > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > thyroid > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a > > day > > > > but > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > shape > > > > except > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to > > mow > > > > the > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > that > > > > helps > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time > is > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > > not.. > > > > > > About > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > see > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > > told > > > > > him > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > > when > > > > my > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > anything > > > > > to > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > hints, > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I am still awake and find the recliner undcomfortable. I even bundled up and slept outsides for a few hours. Where is it comfortable to lay down.?? Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > have > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > months > > > > > ago > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > lost > > > 40 > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > pretty > > > > bad > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself > > for > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > thyroid > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a > > day > > > > but > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > shape > > > > except > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to > > mow > > > > the > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > that > > > > helps > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time > is > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > > not.. > > > > > > About > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > see > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > > told > > > > > him > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > > when > > > > my > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > anything > > > > > to > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > hints, > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I have been told that if you just can't sleep, the best thing to do is to find something to do. dust, dishes, any other household job or something that you can do without getting too involved. For me, the best thing is to read, put on some soft music. But if I do a puzzle of some kind, then my mind gets too involved and it is even harder to get to sleep. By trying so hard to get to sleep, we actually keep ourselves awake. For me the worst time to get to sleep is when I know I have to be up early the next morning. I try so hard to get to sleep, I keep myself awake. Jan H > I am still awake and find the recliner undcomfortable. I even bundled up > and slept outsides for a few hours. Where is it comfortable to lay down.?? > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The > youngest > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The > next > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > > have > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > > months > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > > lost > > > > 40 > > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > > pretty > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress > myself > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages > a > > > day > > > > > but > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > > shape > > > > > except > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able > to > > > mow > > > > > the > > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > > that > > > > > helps > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next > time > > is > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis > or > > > > not.. > > > > > > > About > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > > see > > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and > I > > > > told > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my > job > > > > when > > > > > my > > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > > anything > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > > hints, > > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi > ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I don't about being the furthest west on this group Jan!! I live on the island off the west coast of British Columbia. The only land that is further west than me is probably Alaska. Gloria ________________________________ I think I am probably the farthest west on this group. And I sleep in the livingroom in my recliner. Ed watches TV until midnight usually so I can't go to sleep until after that. Jan H On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next > > was > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > have > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > months > > > > > ago > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > lost > > > 40 > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > pretty > > > > bad > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself > > for > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > thyroid > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a > > day > > > > but > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > shape > > > > except > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to > > mow > > > > the > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > that > > > > helps > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time > is > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > > not.. > > > > > > About > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > see > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > > told > > > > > him > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > > when > > > > my > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > anything > > > > > to > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > hints, > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 yes, mine did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next was > > in > > > > his > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have > > > > another > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > months > > > > ago > > > > > I > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and lost > > 40 > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in pretty > > > bad > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself for > > a > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > thyroid > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a day > > > but > > > > my > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape > > > except > > > > > for > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to mow > > > the > > > > > yard > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that > > > helps > > > > a > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is > > in > > > a > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or > > not.. > > > > > About > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I > > told > > > > him > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job > > when > > > my > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > anything > > > > to > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > hints, > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Oh, that is right Gloria, forgot and I even got a google map and looked it up, you are just south of the bit of Alaska which runs down the coast. But you probably don't stay up til midnight or later. Jan H > I don't about being the furthest west on this group Jan!! I live on the > island off the west coast of British Columbia. The only land that is > further west than me is probably Alaska. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > I think I am probably the farthest west on this group. And I sleep in the > livingroom in my recliner. Ed watches TV until midnight usually so I can't > go to sleep until after that. Jan H > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The > youngest > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The > next > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > > have > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > > months > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > > lost > > > > 40 > > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > > pretty > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress > myself > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages > a > > > day > > > > > but > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > > shape > > > > > except > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able > to > > > mow > > > > > the > > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > > that > > > > > helps > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next > time > > is > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis > or > > > > not.. > > > > > > > About > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > > see > > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and > I > > > > told > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my > job > > > > when > > > > > my > > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > > anything > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > > hints, > > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi > ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest was in his > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next was in his > > fifties. > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have another > > brother > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 months ago I > went > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and lost 40 pounds. > > They > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in pretty bad shape > > when > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself for a couple > > more > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a thyroid pill > > which I > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > Kristulose.Three > > 20 > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a day but my > > ammonia > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape except for > > having > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to mow the yard > but > > is > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that helps a > > little. > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is in a couple > > of > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or not. About 8 > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see anything. He > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I told him > about > > my > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job when my plant > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had anything to > drink > > > since July 07. > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, hints, > comments, > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > web address: > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrh osissupport/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I am anemic so I can't donate blood. Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows  Love, Lyncia   Subject: Fwd: Re: My story To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 5:40 PM  > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The youngest was in his > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The next was in his > > fifties. > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I have another > > brother > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 months ago I > went > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and lost 40 pounds. > > They > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in pretty bad shape > > when > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress myself for a couple > > more > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a thyroid pill > > which I > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > Kristulose.Three > > 20 > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages a day but my > > ammonia > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good shape except for > > having > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able to mow the yard > but > > is > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill that helps a > > little. > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next time is in a couple > > of > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis or not. About 8 > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not see anything. He > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and I told him > about > > my > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my job when my plant > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had anything to > drink > > > since July 07. > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, hints, > comments, > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > web address: > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrh osissupport/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 LOL I used to Jan!! That was quite simply a part of me until I did treatment the first time.. Now there are nights that I'm in bed by 7:00. Gloria ________________________________ Oh, that is right Gloria, forgot and I even got a google map and looked it up, you are just south of the bit of Alaska which runs down the coast. But you probably don't stay up til midnight or later. Jan H On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > I don't about being the furthest west on this group Jan!! I live on the > island off the west coast of British Columbia. The only land that is > further west than me is probably Alaska. > > Gloria > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > I think I am probably the farthest west on this group. And I sleep in the > livingroom in my recliner. Ed watches TV until midnight usually so I can't > go to sleep until after that. Jan H > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > > > Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The > youngest > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The > next > > > was > > > > in > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. I > > have > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years 6 > > > > months > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind and > > > lost > > > > 40 > > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > > pretty > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress > myself > > > for > > > > a > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and a > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the hated > > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 packages > a > > > day > > > > > but > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > > shape > > > > > except > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able > to > > > mow > > > > > the > > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping pill > > that > > > > > helps > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next > time > > is > > > > in > > > > > a > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had cirrhosis > or > > > > not.. > > > > > > > About > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could not > > see > > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy and > I > > > > told > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my > job > > > > when > > > > > my > > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not had > > > > > anything > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any suggestions, > > > > hints, > > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi > ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Since I don't go to bed, but sleep in my recliner in the living room, I can't even try to go to sleep until Ed shuts off the TV and goes to bed. That is usually between 11:30 and midnight. And if I am not exhausted, that is one chance for me to practice playing some songs I am working on hoping to record for my family. A few nights I have been so exhausted that I have gone to sleep before he shuts it off, but those are accidents. If I tried, I wouldn't be able too. He is still home from work since after his heart attack on November 9th, so he is even around in the morning when I usually get to sleep. But he doesn't dare put the TV on until I wake up. Even with my asthma, I can still scream pretty loud when I don't get enough sleep because he wakes me up. [?][?]Thursday he goes for his angiogram, and if that is clear, then the doctor will release him to go back. I hope it is clear, but then we won't know what caused the heart attack. Jan H > LOL > > I used to Jan!! That was quite simply a part of me until I did treatment > the first time.. Now there are nights that I'm in bed by 7:00. > > Gloria > > > > > ________________________________ > > > Oh, that is right Gloria, forgot and I even got a google map and looked it > up, you are just south of the bit of Alaska which runs down the coast. But > you probably don't stay up til midnight or later. Jan H > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Gloria <gadamscanyahoo (DOT) ca> wrote: > > > I don't about being the furthest west on this group Jan!! I live on the > > island off the west coast of British Columbia. The only land that is > > further west than me is probably Alaska. > > > > Gloria > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > I think I am probably the farthest west on this group. And I sleep in > the > > livingroom in my recliner. Ed watches TV until midnight usually so I > can't > > go to sleep until after that. Jan H > > > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Lyncia <lmlangdonyahoo (DOT) com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Jan for your answer and being awake. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this day and for our tomorrows > > > > > > Love, Lyncia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have had 3 brothers die of liver disease. The > > youngest > > > > was > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > thirties. The next youngest was in his forties. The > > next > > > > was > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > fifties. > > > > > > > > > > > > The first 2 were cirrhosis and the other was cancer. > I > > > have > > > > > > > another > > > > > > > > > > > brother > > > > > > > > > > > > who is 58 and has no symptoms yet. I am 61. Two years > 6 > > > > > months > > > > > > > ago > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > went > > > > > > > > > > > > into the hospital for 45 days. I was out of my mind > and > > > > lost > > > > > 40 > > > > > > > > > pounds. > > > > > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > > said my electolyes were out of balance.I was still in > > > > pretty > > > > > > bad > > > > > > > > > shape > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > they let me out. I was only able to eat and dress > > myself > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > months. My PC doctor had me on 2 pills for memory and > a > > > > > thyroid > > > > > > > > pill > > > > > > > > > > > which I > > > > > > > > > > > > am still on. About 18 months ago he put me on the > hated > > > > > > > > > > Kristulose.Three > > > > > > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > > > > mg packages a day. We tried cutting back to 2 > packages > > a > > > > day > > > > > > but > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > ammonia > > > > > > > > > > > > would go back up over a hundred. I am in fairly good > > > shape > > > > > > except > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > > > > to go to the bathroom alot and I get tired. I am able > > to > > > > mow > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > yard > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > about all I am able to do. I also take a sleeping > pill > > > that > > > > > > helps > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > little. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am seeing my PC doc only every 4 months. The next > > time > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > couple > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > weeks. I do not remember if I was told I had > cirrhosis > > or > > > > > not.. > > > > > > > > About > > > > > > > > > 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > months ago my gastr doc did a liver scan and could > not > > > see > > > > > > > > anything.. > > > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > > > decided to do this after I went in for a colonscopy > and > > I > > > > > told > > > > > > > him > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > other problems MY PC had nothing to do with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was a heavy drinker for 25 years and then I lost my > > job > > > > > when > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > plant > > > > > > > > > > > > shut down and I sat home and drank more. I have not > had > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > drink > > > > > > > > > > > > since July 07. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know how alarmed I should be. Any > suggestions, > > > > > hints, > > > > > > > > > > comments, > > > > > > > > > > > > or opinions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group Email: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > > > > > web address: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/livercirrhosi > > ssupport/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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