Re: Low-Carb diet...

[Guest guest]

The quick answer for low carb is to cut out bread, potatoes, rice, and

pasta. Try Sugar Busters and Dr. Atkins for menu suggestions. Sugar

Busters has a lot more fruit and grain products than some people can

tolerate, but YMMV.

I basically eat egg whites (scrambled) for breakfast, sometimes with sausage

or mushrooms. Lots of salads with full fat dressings for lunch, and meat

and veggies for supper. As far as snacks go, beef sticks, cheese, nuts,

pork rinds, celery with nut butter. The real trick to low carb seems to be

drinking lots of non-caffeine, non-carbonated beverages (not necessarily

water, but lots of that helps, too).

Good luck with your new eating plan!

Robin G.

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Hello y'all (especially Susie, I guess ;-) )

You all talk about that a low carb diet is important to keep diabetes

under control. This interest me a lot, but my dietician tell me that

all I need to care about is that I am sure that I get complex

carbohydrates (high on fiber) instead of " normal " carbohydrates. For

example I should eat dark bread with lost of " grain " and stuff, but I

would like to know what I should eat if I want to go easy on the

carbs.

So could you please come up with some ideas for what would be good

for breakfast, lunch and dinner. And what about snacks? I mean I am

supposed to eat 5 or 6 times a day, but I guess eating a sandwhich

for a snack isn't the best of ideas.

The untrue never is;

The true never isn't.

Krishna

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sune and , well, to start off, have you read " Dr. Bernstein's

Diabetes Solutions " ? This is practically the Bible of Low Carbing and can

answer a lot of your questions, about both low carbing and diabetes in

general. It's available from Amazon if your library doesn't have it (which

since you're in Denmark it probably won't!) He's an MD type I diabetic and

worked out this system after many years of trial and error. He advocates

REALLY low carb - less than 40 a day, I think -- but many of us use a more

relaxed version.

Meals: Well, breakfast is usually the trickiest as at least Americans

usually have high-carb breakfasts -- cereal, toast, etc. Now, if you're

going to really make a serious try at low carbing you could eat a LITTLE

bread -- I don't know about labels there, different breads have different

counts and American bread has the counts on the package. Some breads are as

low as 11 carbs per slice -- packaged rye has 13...others have up to 21 carbs

per slice. Some of us limit bread to one slice per day. You could have an

open faced sandwich for one of your meals...back to breakfast...eggs and

bacon/sausage/turkey/fish , etc. is fine...skip the juice! Canned sardines

are fine - really excellent, as a matter of fact. For lunches or

dinners...any lean meat, fish, chicken, etc. okay...steamed veggies. Beware

of pasta, rice, potatos...better to skip these altogether. Limited beans

okay. Lots of salads. Some veggies have carbs too...if they taste sweet they

probably have carbs. Like carrots, beets, etc. Spaghetti squash is

excellent, low-cal and low carb and you can use it with any sauce you used to

put on your pasta (except maybe Alfredo!)

A good reference book is the Complete Book of Food Counts by Corinne Netzer.

Available in paperback, from Amazon. It wastes a lot of space on fast foods

but there's also a lot of fresh stuff in there.

Skip juices and eat fruits carefully...some have pretty high carb counts. I

can have about a sixteenth of a slice of cantalope at a time...on the other

hand, can indulge myself with strawberries or even a whole peach at a time.

The best thing is to eat and test. That way you know what works for you. As

you've probably seen from reading this list what works for one may not work

for another person.

You go for the low carbing...keep good records of what you eat and what your

BGs are...test frequently (I test before each meal and between each meal too)

then when you see your doc next time you can show him positive results and

maybe even change his mind about low carbing! And we're here to answer

questions. Good luck! Vicki

[Guest guest]

Hello Robin,

> Try Sugar Busters and Dr. Atkins for menu suggestions. Sugar

> Busters has a lot more fruit and grain products than some people can

> tolerate, but YMMV.

Sugar Busters? These are book titles, right? Can you please give me

the full title and author names?

> The real trick to low carb seems to be

> drinking lots of non-caffeine, non-carbonated beverages (not necessarily

> water, but lots of that helps, too).

Darn!! I am kind of a cola-holic... :-(

> Good luck with your new eating plan!

Thanks!! I am trying my best to find what is best for me. It is quite

the science it seems...

Sune, Type-2

[Guest guest]

Sune, I said US daily avg. carb consumption is 100 grams ... it's THREE

hundred grams. Now, you mentioned " Coca-holic. " I am sure you mean

sugar-free Coke ... but even sugar-free Coke and other

artificially-sweetened drinks cause probs for SOME diabetics ... we are not

sure why ... it may be that the body tastes something sweet and presumes it

is full-sugar and cranks up the body to deal with it.

If you don't have Nutrition labels on your food over there, be sure to get

yourself a good book right away, like Corinne T. Netzer's " Complete Book of

Food Counts. "

Also, you can download a free program to help you at

http://www.siestasoftware.com

[Guest guest]

http://www.diabetes-normalsugars.com/index.shtml

Check out the above link to read a few chapter's of Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes

Solution online. I was able to get off meds (I was only on them 2 weeks)

once I started following his WOE (way of eating). It is tough....6 carbs in

am, 12 lunch, 12 dinner.

Most dietitians advocate the ADA diet which is full of carbs.

Meniowl@...

type 2, dx 7/99, d & water aerobics

In a message dated 09/06/1999 9:01:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

trudslev@... writes:

<<

You all talk about that a low carb diet is important to keep diabetes

under control. This interest me a lot, but my dietician tell me that

all I need to care about is that I am sure that I get complex

carbohydrates (high on fiber) instead of " normal " carbohydrates. For

example I should eat dark bread with lost of " grain " and stuff, but I

would like to know what I should eat if I want to go easy on the

carbs.

>>

[Guest guest]

Susie,

> Now, you mentioned " Coca-holic. " I am sure you mean

> sugar-free Coke ... but even sugar-free Coke and other

> artificially-sweetened drinks cause probs for SOME diabetics ...

Well, I seem to be doing okay on my (probably) high-carb diet, and it

includes sugar-free Coke. It doesn't seem to affect my bg levels. So,

I guess I am just lucky. I mean to feel like this change of eating

habbits is livable, you need something " bad " . Do you know what I

mean? My " bad " thing is Diet Coke (Was before I was diagsnosed too!!

:-) ). It wasn't very hard for me to give up candy and cakes and

stuff (I do get cravings for chips at times!), but giving up the Coke

would be really hard for me.

> If you don't have Nutrition labels on your food over there, be sure to get

> yourself a good book right away, like Corinne T. Netzer's " Complete Book of

> Food Counts. "

We actually have really good Nutrition labels over here. I would like

to know about cholesterol levels in stuff, since it's also VERY

important for me to keep my cholestrol levels down.

Actually the way my diabetes was discovered was because I had this

wierd rash on my elbows and knees. My doctor at first thought it was

a kind of infection, but after a while where it hadn't improved at

all. He sent me to a specialist which was extactic. He had never

actually seen anything like it. He said that it was cholesterol

deposits in my skin. I asked him if my insane thirst could have

anything to do with it and he said. " We better check your bloodsugar

too " .

The rash is almost gone now, so I guess my diet is much lower in

cholesterol than what it used to be.

> Also, you can download a free program to help you at

> http://www.siestasoftware.com

I'll check it out, thanks!! :-)

Sune, Type II

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[Guest guest]

Sune writes:

<< I would like to know about cholesterol levels in stuff, since it's also

VERY

important for me to keep my cholestrol levels down. >>

80% of the cholesterol in your readings is produced by your own body. And it

is produced because you are an insulin-resistant type 2 diabetic. Odds are

that once you spend some months with your diabetes in good control, the high

cholesterol and high triglycerides and low HDL and high LDL will normalize.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Sugar Busters is the name of the book. The authors are H. Leighton Steward,

on C. Bethea, Sam S. s, and A Balart.

Robin G.

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Hello Robin,

> Try Sugar Busters and Dr. Atkins for menu suggestions. Sugar

> Busters has a lot more fruit and grain products than some people can

> tolerate, but YMMV.

Sugar Busters? These are book titles, right? Can you please give me

the full title and author names?