Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 And most physicians do not know there are over 5000 journal articles on silicone and the way it makes people sick. But, as in the law, not knowing does not excuse you if you should know. And, doctors should read the research instead of insulting, belittling, and dismissing symptoms. Lynda At 10:07 PM 6/13/2006, you wrote: >Sorry, Donna, but most physicians have never heard of Dr. Kolb, Dr. >Feng, Dr. Melmed, Dr. Blias. > Sherry > Re: Re: one more thing > >Sherry, > >Come on there has been plenty of good PS like Dr. Kolb, Dr. Feng, >Dr. Melmed, Dr. Blias, who has told them these devices are making us >sick. DO YOU GET WARNED!!!!!!!! > > >NOT > >Donna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I was in a neurologist's office when we heard a siren .. . . He laughed and said " Here comes my next patient " .. . . I wonder how the person in the ambulance would have felt if he/she had heard that! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Dr. Melmed was on nation-wide TV talking about the dangers of breast implants . . . Newspapers too! His peers gave him a bad time about it! . . . One told him that he was putting implants in his teenage daughter! If they don't know, they don't want to know! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 All I can say is Thank God. You aren't here to help or be helped, and your distracting the rest of us from helping and being helped. You blame us but refuse to be accountable for the way you treat us. You're right when you say you don't have the skills to effectively communicate with us. Sherry, you keep coming here and basically telling us it's our own faults that doctors don't listen to us. We didn't get this jaded overnight, and I think we could all speak to you until we were blue in the face and you still wouldn't listen - much like our own doctors will not listen, so unfortunately you haven't learned a thing from coming here. You haven't learned to see things from the eyes of a patient. I've told you at least once that I personally went into my doctors very rationally, and was told over and over and over again, it's not your implants. Someone with medical information is welcome here, look how well everyone responded to Cindi - who did not talk down to us - but your messages are just so condescending. Sis > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> , > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has > >> >>>>>> been going on in regards to shipping implants. > >> >>>>>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . . > >> >>>>>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr. > >> >>>>>> Blais checking them! > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and > >> >>>>>> blood is shipped all the time! > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Rogene > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > >> >>>>> by > >> >>>>> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > >> >>>>> licensed > >> >>>>> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > >> >>>>> mislead > >> >>>>> you. > >> >>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how > >> >>>>> to > >> >>>>> live > >> >>>>> a > >> >>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > >> >>>>> two-time > >> >>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > >> >>>>> > >> >>> > >> <<<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.s hutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly > >> >>> > >> .com/action/><http://.shutterfly.>http://salinesuppor t.shutterfly. > >> >>>>> com/action/ > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Sherry, Dr. Kolb does have scientific data in her office. She's also been involved in various groups that developed the scientific data. Go argue with her. We are here to help each other not argue over scientific data. I went to surgery with a numb neck, head and shoulders a burning chest wall with extreme shooting pains running down both arms. By the afternoon of the next day after surgery all of the above symptons were gone. That is fact and truth and it has happened to hundreds of other women. Sometimes doctors are so hung up on scientifc facts that they can't see the forest for the trees. Penni Re: Re: one more thing> >>> >> All this surprises me b/c I just paid to have mine shipped to Dr.> >> Blais from Dr. Kolb's office! Knowone said anything to me!> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> On 6/12/06, Rogene S <<mailto:saxony01@...>saxony01@...> > >> wrote:> >>> >> ,> >>> >> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has> >> been going on in regards to shipping implants.> >> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . .> >> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr.> >> Blais checking them!> >>> >> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and> >> blood is shipped all the time!> >>> >> Rogene> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by> > licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed> > health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.> >> > "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live > > a> > happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)> >> > See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:> > http://.shutterfly.com/action/> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 I have placed Sherry on moderated status, meaning one of the moderators must approve and allow her messages to go through. Lynda At 10:12 PM 6/13/2006, you wrote: > " Admit it Sherry doctors love it when we are sick, they laugh when >we leave, saying well there some more money coming my way next month >or next week, she will be back. " > >With a belief system like that, Donna, it does not surprise me that >your doctors just wanted you to go elsewhere. > Sherry > Re: Re: one more thing > >Sherry, > >I other word you are saying we have to talk a different tone and be >calm and all this stuff. I was so calm and tried your approach that >you are talking about. It never worked for me. It must be the part >that is the whole problem here. It is all hush hush how implants >make women sick so PS and other doctors can get rich off of one set >of breast. Admit it Sherry doctors love it when we are sick, they >laugh when we leave, saying well there some more money coming my way >next month or next week, she will be back. My PS sent me to his >golf buddy neuroligist, then he send me off to his other >buddy. Sorry I lost respect here for most. This is ridiculous >behavior, the whole world of women has the right to know the truth >about breast implants. I have already myself warned women and they >will not get them. Let's be told the truth before during and after >implants. This would make me have more respect for doctors. Let's >not let implanted women walk around feeling like they are going to >die, then laugh at them, wait til it effects the brain and every >organ in our bodies, laugh and give more medicine to cover up the >illness more. Then refer to friends and brothers, then play some >golf, cruise the beemer. Our children suffer from this, the women >who pass this on by breast milk. The women to sick to care for >there kids. Let's grow a heart over money and for once tell the >truth. If I could speak out I would to anyone I am not ashamed I >was lied to so bad by my FDA, Implant Manufacturer, and PS. Come >one lets stop the lies and doctors are passing the medicines and >buck here. My niece she is 24 found out her IUD Mirena was making >her very sick, yes she has bio-toxin from her birth control. It was >given to her when she breast fed her baby and the hormone medicine >clearly states not to give while breast feeding. This is more >lies. More crooked doctors. Now our GYN's are making our kids sick >with birth control. Destroy a young lady and her child's >life. Well there should be a lot of happy doctors out there with >nice cars by now. She paid out thousands before she found a web >site and women complaining of the same symptoms. Let's face it if >is silicone it is not safe period. This device said, No side >effects like she experienced. Do our doctors love this or >what. Keeps food on there tables, while we starve. I think it is >criminal and we should all go protest the FDA and White House for >years if that is what it took. I will pack my bags right now. > >Donna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Well Sherry that is your choice. But I would like to say to you that " you don't get it either " . You have repeated the same statements time and time again...never changing your message. I feel you have done so without Listening, without Reading the scientific information given you, without seeking it out on your own from Plastic Surgery Journals, The New England Journal of Medicine or from other sources I am sure or which you are more familiar. How you can do this in the face of pure data is beyond me. Not emotions, not histronics...just plain long simple DATA. And honest DATA does not lie. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> , > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> It wasn't all Dr. Feng's office . . . Something has > >> >>>>>> been going on in regards to shipping implants. > >> >>>>>> Supposedly the shippers are refusing to ship them. . . > >> >>>>>> I think it's something political. They don't want Dr. > >> >>>>>> Blais checking them! > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Doesn't make sense because they're well packaged and > >> >>>>>> blood is shipped all the time! > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> Rogene > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given > >> >>>>> by > >> >>>>> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or > >> >>>>> licensed > >> >>>>> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians > >> >>>>> mislead > >> >>>>> you. > >> >>>>> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how > >> >>>>> to > >> >>>>> live > >> >>>>> a > >> >>>>> happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, > >> >>>>> two-time > >> >>>>> Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > >> >>>>> > >> >>> > >> <<<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.s hutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly > >> >>> > >> .com/action/><http://.shutterfly.>http://salinesuppor t.shutterfly. > >> >>>>> com/action/ > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Sherry, The problem is that the doctors who do know are shut up! . . . They're ostracized, fired, ridiculed and threatened! . . . There really are people out there who will do anything to keep these deadly devices on the market. One Fort Worth neurologist was right on . . . He was treating women very conservatively . . . diet, exercise, detox . . . very few drugs. And they were getting well! He was taken on by the New York Times as a charlatan. He quit seeing implant women to save his career. ly, if I were a doctor who saw a young person coming in with an assortment of unusual problems, I would want to find out WHY they had those problems, not just prescribe medication. Naturopathic, holistic medicine looks for the cause and tries to address that! . . . They knew I had scleroderma . . . they wouldn't tell ME! . . . One doctor told me that it was very common - that's why women wore long pants. We probably do sound strange when we start discussing all the problems we've experienced! . . . They run the gamut - and tests are usually negative. . . Unless the doctors lie when they aren't. If you bring up something like Candida . . . they immediately throw up a wall. " Everybody has it. " Face it, it's a sick system. Unless the cause of health problems is addressed (behavior and environmental), our medical system is going to collapse under the weight of sick people who can't hold a job. I've found it interesting among the couples we know through square dancing, that I can't think of a single couple whose young adult children are ALL functioning normally! . . . Some have some very serious problems. .. . But still, no answers! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Ladies, I just spoke to my neighbor across the street. She is getting silicone implants put in on the 29th of this month. She said they were some kind of safe new silicone implants and I thought (could be wrong here) she said that they wouldn't need to be replaced. We spoke for a while and I told her about my first silicone and than saline implants. But whatever PS she is going to seems to have her convinced that these new silicone implants are safe. Does anyone know what she is talking about? She said she has already put down all her money and it is non-refundable. I told her we have spent on average $35,000 out of pocket each year since 1996 on my medical expenses. I walked away feeling very sad:>( A beautiful woman, nice lady etc. going in for implants, lift and tummy tuck. Penni Re: Re: one more thing Dr. Melmed was on nation-wide TV talking about thedangers of breast implants . . . Newspapers too!His peers gave him a bad time about it! . . . One toldhim that he was putting implants in his teenagedaughter!If they don't know, they don't want to know!Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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