Re: Nervous and a bit scared..

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Molly, Armour works! 60MG is a good starting dose, but you should be

increasing that after about 2 weeks. Go to

http://www.armourthyroid.com/pi.html and click on the link for

prescribing information. Take this to your doctor. A month on 1 grain

(60MG) and you will likely be feeling poorly again after a brief respite

from symptoms. The most common doses for people to end up feeling good

on are 3-5 grains (180 to 300MG) of Armour. Click on the link in my

signature line for Stop The Thyroid Madness website. WONDERFUL

information there!

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Wow, Molly! Some paragraphs would help! :-) teasing!!!!You sound absolutely textbook hypothyroid. One grain split into two doses is GREAT for starters--but he should have you increasing by another half after 2-3 weeks. I bet you'll be calling him saying you were feeling better but now it's worse and PLEASE increase the dose!

I don't hear anything adrenal-related here.DeborahOn 6/26/06, Molly <mollymcbutter1@...

> wrote:

Hello everyone, I'm molly. I'm 23 and I am hypo. My doctor

prescribed 60mg of armour. Is this an unusually high dose to start

out with? He said to break the pill in half and take one half in the

morning and the other in the evening. It's been a 'while' since I've

felt like myself. I think the last time I felt " normal " was around

the age of 14yrs. When I started my period, my mother had to rush me

to the doctor's office because the cramps were so painful and I

threw up then passed out as a result. Since then I have missed at

least 1 day a month from school and work due to my period. My

doctor ,back then, would give me shots of naproxin about a day or

two before my period was due and then I would take pain killers

until it was over. I've also had a problem with keeping my body

temperature up, my hands and feet are ALWAYS cold to the touch. I

hate winter because the cold " hurts " . I can remember when I was 16,

my friends and I went to the movies and there was a light sprinkle

of rain. We started watching the movie, and the only thing I could

concentrate on was on how cold I was. When the movie was over, we

went to the restrooms and my friends rushed me over to the mirror

and were asking if I was ok. My face was very pale, my lips had

turned blue/purple, and I had a ring around my eyes. My mother took

me back to my doctor to find out what was wrong. She said I had

a 'hormonal' imbalance and that going on birth control pills would

help. They didn't, so I stopped after 2 years. Things started

getting worst, I started having problems concentrated, my head felt

like it was in a fog, (like a head cold), I could never get enough

sleep, and I was starting to lose interest in everything. I have a

hard time " feeling " emotions. The next doctor I saw said I was

depressed, so I went on prozac. That didn't help and I actually felt

worst. All my energy was being drained from me. I stopped going

outside because the sunlight hurt my eyes. Being a teen without the

energy of my 'normal' friends was really hard. I couldn't keep up

with them, I started losing friends because I just didn't have the

energy to keep up the friendships. I started becoming introverted.

So to another doctor my mother took me. Basically he said it was all

in my mind..and I believed him. Well, some of the other symptoms I

started having was my hair was falling out, my lips are almost

ALWAYS chapped, (even though I went to a dermatologist and I did

what he told me to do: drink more water, and apply the chapstick

stuff he gave me...it didn't help much)..I don't like

being " touched " or being too close to other people. My mother

thought i might be a manic depressant since my moods are becoming

extreme.. she says I'm like march, she doesn't know if she's going

to get the lamb or the lion.. All the doctors I've seen tried to

treat the symptoms individually and it didn't work. I've also become

suseptable to colds and the flu. *Sorry about my spelling* ~smiles..

and it takes me so much longer to get over them than it does anyone

else in my family. I'm waking up with head aches every morning.. and

i have a hard time getting up before 10am.. I'm having a problem

with insomnia.. and my mother thought it might be stress. But my

life isn't really " stressful " , so i don't think my symptoms are

coming from stress. Well the older doctor I've started seeing,

thanks to a referral from an older neighbor..ran some blood tests

and other tests on me, (he's such a sweet old man) he said my

thyroid is underactive so he's putting me on Armour for a month to

see how many of my symptoms clear up.. I'm trying to not be overly

optomistic, since I've had dissapointments before, but I can't help

but be excited at the possibility of feeling " normal " , actually

feeling my emotions, not having anymore headaches, letting my hair

grow again, and having more 'energy'. I was wondering how much of my

symptoms are from the hypothyroidism and how many of them could be

from fatigued adrenals? Please let me know what you think.. this is

really scary for me because i don't want to live the rest of my life

like this.. I know I'm young but my body feels like it belongs to

someone who is in their 90s.. What are your experiences with this?

All the thanks in the world.~smiles

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Hi Molly... Have no fear... I started at 150 mg. and have been on it a month and they raised me another 75 mg. I still don't feel that it is enough, but I am listening to my doctor and when asking for more she is prescribing it. I felt good as soon as I started it... It wore off as my body adapted. but just for the record, I am very sensitive to medications and this one was very "easy on the body" when starting... this is my personal experience. Be well, PamelaMolly wrote: Hello everyone, I'm molly. I'm 23 and I am hypo. My doctor prescribed 60mg of armour. Is this an unusually high dose to start out with? He said to break the pill in half and take one half in the morning and the other in the evening. It's been a 'while' since I've felt like myself. I think the last time I felt "normal" was around the age of 14yrs. When I started my period, my mother had to rush me to the doctor's office because the cramps were so painful and I threw up then passed out as a result. Since then I have missed at least 1 day a month from school and work due to my period. My doctor ,back then, would give me shots of naproxin about a day or two before my period was due and then I would take pain killers until it was over. I've also had a problem with keeping my body temperature up, my hands and feet are

ALWAYS cold to the touch. I hate winter because the cold "hurts". I can remember when I was 16, my friends and I went to the movies and there was a light sprinkle of rain. We started watching the movie, and the only thing I could concentrate on was on how cold I was. When the movie was over, we went to the restrooms and my friends rushed me over to the mirror and were asking if I was ok. My face was very pale, my lips had turned blue/purple, and I had a ring around my eyes. My mother took me back to my doctor to find out what was wrong. She said I had a 'hormonal' imbalance and that going on birth control pills would help. They didn't, so I stopped after 2 years. Things started getting worst, I started having problems concentrated, my head felt like it was in a fog, (like a head cold), I could never get enough sleep, and I was starting to lose interest in everything. I have a hard time "feeling" emotions. The next

doctor I saw said I was depressed, so I went on prozac. That didn't help and I actually felt worst. All my energy was being drained from me. I stopped going outside because the sunlight hurt my eyes. Being a teen without the energy of my 'normal' friends was really hard. I couldn't keep up with them, I started losing friends because I just didn't have the energy to keep up the friendships. I started becoming introverted. So to another doctor my mother took me. Basically he said it was all in my mind..and I believed him. Well, some of the other symptoms I started having was my hair was falling out, my lips are almost ALWAYS chapped, (even though I went to a dermatologist and I did what he told me to do: drink more water, and apply the chapstick stuff he gave me...it didn't help much)..I don't like being "touched" or being too close to other people. My mother thought i might be a manic depressant since my moods are

becoming extreme.. she says I'm like march, she doesn't know if she's going to get the lamb or the lion.. All the doctors I've seen tried to treat the symptoms individually and it didn't work. I've also become suseptable to colds and the flu. *Sorry about my spelling* ~smiles.. and it takes me so much longer to get over them than it does anyone else in my family. I'm waking up with head aches every morning.. and i have a hard time getting up before 10am.. I'm having a problem with insomnia.. and my mother thought it might be stress. But my life isn't really "stressful", so i don't think my symptoms are coming from stress. Well the older doctor I've started seeing, thanks to a referral from an older neighbor..ran some blood tests and other tests on me, (he's such a sweet old man) he said my thyroid is underactive so he's putting me on Armour for a month to see how many of my symptoms clear up.. I'm trying to not be

overly optomistic, since I've had dissapointments before, but I can't help but be excited at the possibility of feeling "normal", actually feeling my emotions, not having anymore headaches, letting my hair grow again, and having more 'energy'. I was wondering how much of my symptoms are from the hypothyroidism and how many of them could be from fatigued adrenals? Please let me know what you think.. this is really scary for me because i don't want to live the rest of my life like this.. I know I'm young but my body feels like it belongs to someone who is in their 90s.. What are your experiences with this? All the thanks in the world.~smiles~Molly M.

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Molly:

Your story brings back memories.

I remember in the 4th grade it was chilly outside. We walked to and from school, which was only 5 blocks. I live in south Texas so it does not get cold all that much but this particular day it was cold and windy and the coldness incapacitated me so much that my best friend had to carry me on her back, home. My ear pain from the cold wind was too much. I can relate to your story of your miserable periods and getting put on the pill to help them, all that happened to me as well.

You will see from reading on this list, that there is a lot of knowledge to be gained and you certainly will begin to feel much better, even normal again!

-- Nervous and a bit scared..

Hello everyone, I'm molly. I'm 23 and I am hypo. My doctor prescribed 60mg of armour. Is this an unusually high dose to start out with? He said to break the pill in half and take one half in the morning and the other in the evening. It's been a 'while' since I've felt like myself. I think the last time I felt "normal" was around the age of 14yrs. When I started my period, my mother had to rush me to the doctor's office because the cramps were so painful and I threw up then passed out as a result. Since then I have missed at least 1 day a month from school and work due to my period. My doctor ,back then, would give me shots of naproxin about a day or two before my period was due and then I would take pain killers until it was over. I've also had a problem with keeping my body temperature up, my hands and feet are ALWAYS cold to the touch. I hate winter because the cold "hurts". I can remember when I was 16, my friends and I went to the movies and there was a light sprinkle of rain. We started watching the movie, and the only thing I could concentrate on was on how cold I was. When the movie was over, we went to the restrooms and my friends rushed me over to the mirror and were asking if I was ok. My face was very pale, my lips had turned blue/purple, and I had a ring around my eyes. My mother took me back to my doctor to find out what was wrong. She said I had a 'hormonal' imbalance and that going on birth control pills would help. They didn't, so I stopped after 2 years. Things started getting worst, I started having problems concentrated, my head felt like it was in a fog, (like a head cold), I could never get enough sleep, and I was starting to lose interest in everything. I have a hard time "feeling" emotions. The next doctor I saw said I was depressed, so I went on prozac. That didn't help and I actually felt worst. All my energy was being drained from me. I stopped going outside because the sunlight hurt my eyes. Being a teen without the energy of my 'normal' friends was really hard. I couldn't keep up with them, I started losing friends because I just didn't have the energy to keep up the friendships. I started becoming introverted. So to another doctor my mother took me. Basically he said it was all in my mind..and I believed him. Well, some of the other symptoms I started having was my hair was falling out, my lips are almost ALWAYS chapped, (even though I went to a dermatologist and I did what he told me to do: drink more water, and apply the chapstick stuff he gave me...it didn't help much)..I don't like being "touched" or being too close to other people. My mother thought i might be a manic depressant since my moods are becoming extreme.. she says I'm like march, she doesn't know if she's going to get the lamb or the lion.. All the doctors I've seen tried to treat the symptoms individually and it didn't work. I've also become suseptable to colds and the flu. *Sorry about my spelling* ~smiles.. and it takes me so much longer to get over them than it does anyone else in my family. I'm waking up with head aches every morning.. and i have a hard time getting up before 10am.. I'm having a problem with insomnia.. and my mother thought it might be stress. But my life isn't really "stressful", so i don't think my symptoms are coming from stress. Well the older doctor I've started seeing, thanks to a referral from an older neighbor..ran some blood tests and other tests on me, (he's such a sweet old man) he said my thyroid is underactive so he's putting me on Armour for a month to see how many of my symptoms clear up.. I'm trying to not be overly optomistic, since I've had dissapointments before, but I can't help but be excited at the possibility of feeling "normal", actually feeling my emotions, not having anymore headaches, letting my hair grow again, and having more 'energy'. I was wondering how much of my symptoms are from the hypothyroidism and how many of them could be from fatigued adrenals? Please let me know what you think.. this is really scary for me because i don't want to live the rest of my life like this.. I know I'm young but my body feels like it belongs to someone who is in their 90s.. What are your experiences with this? All the thanks in the world.~smiles~Molly M.

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I remember when I was a kid, my mother thought I was over-reacting to the menstrual pain and cramps. I used to get horrible cramps that doubled me over, sick to my stomach and diarrhea. She thought I was just being a whiney baby about a "little discomfort"

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Molly:

Your story brings back memories.

I remember in the 4th grade it was chilly outside. We walked to and from school, which was only 5 blocks. I live in south Texas so it does not get cold all that much but this particular day it was cold and windy and the coldness incapacitated me so much that my best friend had to carry me on her back, home. My ear pain from the cold wind was too much. I can relate to your story of your miserable periods and getting put on the pill to help them, all that happened to me as well.

You will see from reading on this list, that there is a lot of knowledge to be gained and you certainly will begin to feel much better, even normal again!

-- Nervous and a bit scared..

Hello everyone, I'm molly. I'm 23 and I am hypo. My doctor prescribed 60mg of armour. Is this an unusually high dose to start out with? He said to break the pill in half and take one half in the morning and the other in the evening. It's been a 'while' since I've felt like myself. I think the last time I felt "normal" was around the age of 14yrs. When I started my period, my mother had to rush me to the doctor's office because the cramps were so painful and I threw up then passed out as a result. Since then I have missed at least 1 day a month from school and work due to my period. My doctor ,back then, would give me shots of naproxin about a day or two before my period was due and then I would take pain killers until it was over. I've also had a problem with keeping my body temperature up, my hands and feet are ALWAYS cold to the touch. I hate winter because the cold "hurts". I can remember when I was 16, my friends and I went to the movies and thee was a light sprinkle of rain. We started watching the movie, and the only thing I could concentrate on was on how cold I was. When the movie was over, we went to the restrooms and my friends rushed me over to the mirror and were asking if I was ok. My face was very pale, my lips had turned blue/purple, and I had a ring around my eyes. My mother took me back to my doctor to find out what was wrong. She said I had a 'hormonal' imbalance and that going on birth control pills would help. They didn't, so I stopped after 2 years. Things started getting worst, I started having problems concentrated, my head felt like it was in a fog, (like a head cold), I could never get enough sleep, and I was starting to lose interest in everything. I have a hard time "feeling" emotions. The next doctor I saw said I was depressed, so I went on prozac. That didn't help and I actually felt worst. All my energy was being drained from me. I stopped going outside because te sunlight hurt my eyes. Being a teen without the energy of my 'normal' friends was really hard. I couldn't keep up with them, I started losing friends because I just didn't have the energy to keep up the friendships. I started becoming introverted. So to another doctor my mother took me. Basically he said it was all in my mind..and I believed him. Well, some of the other symptoms I started having was my hair was falling out, my lips are almost ALWAYS chapped, (even though I went to a dermatologist and I did what he told me to do: drink more water, and apply the chapstick stuff he gave me...it didn't help much)..I don't like being "touched" or being too close to other people. My mother thought i might be a manic depressant since my moods are becoming extreme.. she says I'm like march, she doesn't know if she's going to get the lamb or the lion.. All the doctors I've seen tried to treat the symptoms individually and it didn't work. I've also become useptable to colds and the flu. *Sorry about my spelling* ~smiles.. and it takes me so much longer to get over them than it does anyone else in my family. I'm waking up with head aches every morning.. and i have a hard time getting up before 10am.. I'm having a problem with insomnia.. and my mother thought it might be stress. But my life isn't really "stressful", so i don't think my symptoms are coming from stress. Well the older doctor I've started seeing, thanks to a referral from an older neighbor..ran some blood tests and other tests on me, (he's such a sweet old man) he said my thyroid is underactive so he's putting me on Armour for a month to see how many of my symptoms clear up.. I'm trying to not be overly optomistic, since I've had dissapointments before, but I can't help but be excited at the possibility of feeling "normal", actually feeling my emotions, not having anymore headaches, letting my hair grow again, and having more 'energy'. I waswondering how much of my symptoms are from the hypothyroidism and how many of them could be from fatigued adrenals? Please let me know what you think.. this is really scary for me because i don't want to live the rest of my life like this.. I know I'm young but my body feels like it belongs to someone who is in their 90s.. What are your experiences with this? All the thanks in the world.~smiles~Molly M.

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Thank you everyone! It's comforting in a way to know I'm not the only

going through this.. Would it be a good idea for me to order some

cortisone pills and take them along with the armour in case my

adrenals are exhaused from compensating for my thyroid (all these

years)? I read that sometimes your body has a difficult time with the

armour if your adrenas are not working properly. I did the

adrenal 'test', and I do have a difficult time holding my arms over my

head.. I never really thought about it until now.. Should I go ahead

and take some cortisone with the armour to be on the safe side? (I'm

soo tired of feeling tired and achy.) Thanks a bunch! ~smiles

~Molly M.

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>>I remember when I was a kid, my

mother thought I was over-reacting to the menstrual pain and cramps.

<<

YUP same here! And my GYM teacher was the WORST! I could be so pale and

cramped I couldn;t stand and she would send me to detention for refusal

to participate.. In fatc I flunked gym class in 7th grade for that

reason.

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--- Hi Molly

Well done for coming this far. Now you will start to get better. It

might be a rocky road and you musn't get disuaded. The folk here will

always help you.

I was wondering about the doc you saw. Was it Dr peatfield in England?

Your story sounds alot like me when I was about 25 (back in the dark

ages, I'm now 36). I was diagnosed with ME back then and had all the

symptoms you describe. Although many of them have improved to a degree

over the years I haven't been well since. I have just discovered all

this stuff and I'm slowly working my way up.

In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " Molly "

wrote:

>

> Thank you everyone! It's comforting in a way to know I'm not the only

> going through this.. Would it be a good idea for me to order some

> cortisone pills and take them along with the armour in case my

> adrenals are exhaused from compensating for my thyroid (all these

> years)? I read that sometimes your body has a difficult time with the

> armour if your adrenas are not working properly. I did the

> adrenal 'test', and I do have a difficult time holding my arms over my

> head.. I never really thought about it until now.. Should I go ahead

> and take some cortisone with the armour to be on the safe side? (I'm

> soo tired of feeling tired and achy.) Thanks a bunch! ~smiles

>

> ~Molly M.

>

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-I live in Fremont, California. ~smiles.. My new doctor is an older

gentleman who immigrated to the U.S. from Central America. I think

that's why he didn't give me a problem with prescribing armour. All

the doctors I saw before him treated my symptoms individually.

I'm hoping the worst of my symtoms are from hypothyroidism but I'm

worried that my strange cravings maybe because my adrenals are tired

from almost 10years of misdiagnosis. I have extreme cravings. One is

for salt and the other is for sugar. I crave really salty things

like pickles with lemon juice and extra salt.. and when I'm done

I'll crave really sweet things.. My mom's scared I'm going to become

diabetic or that I already am.. My tests came back normal for

diabetes though. Have you experience anything like excess hunger and

needing to use sugar, salt, or caffine to 'get you going'? I've

taken multivitamins to make sure my system isn't 'missing' anything,

but it hasn't helped at all.

Even though my hunger is pretty bad, and so are my cravings, I have

managed to keep my weight under control..but barely. I have to be

really careful and exercise twice as much as anyone else I know just

to stay this way. I know I gain weight really easily, even when I

eat healthy. My mom thought the salt was making me bloat but my body

really craves it. I cut down on the amount that I eat just so the

portions I eat are extream in 'flavor'.

Sorry for going on like this.~smiles. I haven't 'felt out' my new

doc and I don't want to come across as a hypocrondriac. I want to

wait a few months before I bring these symptoms to his attention.

Well, so far so good I guess on the armour. The symptoms haven't

really improved yet. (It's my first day~ shrugs.) My doctor said it

could take up to a month to get some relief, since my body has to

adjust to it. THanks for 'listening' to me rant. ~smiles

~Molly M.

P.S. Forgive the spelling please. I'm worried about my adrenals

because the symptoms of hypothyroidism don't quite cover all the

symptoms I'm experiencing. I'm hoping to find some answers since

it's been difficult getting any from many of the medical practioners

I have seen in the past. Thanks for being 'patient' with me. ~smiles

-- In NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS , " jodi2ben "

wrote:

>

> --- Hi Molly

>

> Well done for coming this far. Now you will start to get better. It

> might be a rocky road and you musn't get disuaded. The folk here

will

> always help you.

>

> I was wondering about the doc you saw. Was it Dr peatfield in

England?

>

> Your story sounds alot like me when I was about 25 (back in the

dark

> ages, I'm now 36). I was diagnosed with ME back then and had all

the

> symptoms you describe. Although many of them have improved to a

degree

> over the years I haven't been well since. I have just discovered

all

> this stuff and I'm slowly working my way up.

>

>

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I found this site about some of the symptoms I'm experiencing and I

can relate to too many of them.. I hope it can help someone out.

~smiles

~Molly M.

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