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le Hays wrote:

> I mean, so often I know things and want to communicate

> but the words won't come out of my mouth. I find it

> difficult to discuss so many things with people because

> although I know exactly what I want to talk about, I just

> can't get the proper information out of my mouth. It's

> like it's stuck inside my head, trapped. I can think it

> but can't say it.

Hi le, and welcome. Y'know, I used to be very much

like that, just couldn't speak up and say what I wanted to.

I've been online with other auties/aspies for over 5 years

now, and of course, it Is easier to talk when you're typing.

The thing is, if you do it enough, the ability can cross-

over to real-life speaking situations. It seems that sitting

here, finding the words I want to say, is practice for finding

them when I'm actually speaking. I think that I had become

- pessimistic - of ever being understood, or even being

listened to, and so I really didn't try very hard to express

myself. Writing to my peers here has helped me to " find my

voice " . Now, if I could just find something worth saying...

;-)

> By the way, what does NT actually stand for? I'm

> guessing " neurotypical " but I'd really like to know

> what it actually means.

Yup, that's what it stands for. And ACs are " autistic

cousins " .

Clay

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> I tend to offend people often and I never do it on purpose.

--Yeh. I offend people too. I don't mean to, it just happens.

Sometimes I withdraw from people because I become confused or my senses

overload.

Sometimes, I feel, people withdraw from me because they are offended.

Online friends are nice. If I offend they can choose not to read my post. If I

am in overload

mode the email/post can sit until a better time.

Tell us about your son.

If this group were to give him a trophy what should be inscribed on the base?

~Bonnie

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Bonnie wrote:

> > Yup, that's what it stands for. And ACs

> > are " autistic cousins " .

> Who would be autistic cousins?

Aspies and any others who have any autistic traits,

all those on the spectrum.

Clay

" Who's ready for a Bush Lite? "

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At 12:27 AM 10/5/04, you wrote:

>June wrote:

>

> > I think she's talking about something besides lack of

> > confidence (tho I could be wrong) in speaking.

>

>Hi June,

>I wasn't talking about lack of confidence, but the fact

>that I spoke so little that I needed practice formulating

>sentences. And there was this odd thing of not being able

>to find the right word when I needed it. Still have problems

>with that sometimes. It's especially frustrating, because I

>know I Have the word, just can't lay my tongue on it at the

>moment. Sitting here typing, and practicing this accessing

>of words thing helps me in real life to do the same.

>

>Clay

That's great that you can derive that benefit from participating on lists.

As with reading, I can expand vocabulary and learn new ideas being online

but it doesn't cross over and help with speech. I wonder if this has

anything to do with different modalities of thought. Though I know all

autistics don't " think in pictures " I do and (for me) it makes it hard to

verbalize anything. If the pictures are changing too fast the words don't

have a chance to " catch up " .

I wonder how good a speaker Temple Grandin is; I know she's done radio

interviews but I never heard them. I did hear Dawn Prince speak on

the radio. She did much better than I would have done in that situation.

She did not have any unusual breaks, pauses, or odd word emphasis in her

speech. But her speech was also not overly fluid, florid, or superficial. I

found DPH's vocal patterns soothing.

June

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Hi le

anat, or neurotypical really doen't mean anything, per se, I think it

evolved because a lot of us talk and talk and talk blah blah blah and we,

collectively needed a way to distinguish when we were talking about

people who were on the spectrum and those who weren't. By those who are I

mean those like yourself who are pretty much sure yo are on it.

And neurotypical evolved as a way of defining folks with an entirely

different way of thinking. NT broke down the typing. Nobody want(ed) (s)

this forum to ever be (come) an us/them mentality. We don't foster NT

vs.AC. Its not like that at all. I mean we would never would, or most of

us, if I'm allowed to generalize for us here I think we would not for the

most part use " NT " too much if at all in civilized or any conversations

in the world outside the pc forum.

It (NT) helps define those who are wired unlike autistics. 'Typically.'

If no term were made for typicals and Acs, it would've been eventually,

because it would've been challenging to converse, as so many

conversations revolve around challenges between people who share the

world with Nts and also I may add here: NT people aren't bad people, and

all ACs aren't all nice, vice versa.....

By the way, I am , dx'ed Asperger in 2000, pretty late in life at

35 as is the norm to get dx late. My oldest son who is 22 is High Funct.

Autism. My secret Cone fetish identity action Hero son shows traits, he

is soon 14, my daughter is probably NT with of course traits, and the

least of the cocktail.

Welcome to ANI.

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