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In a message dated 10/3/01 4:41:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mturner@... writes:

> I hate to say this but I got the same sensation as my first

> indication of my being pregnant for each of my 4 pregnancies. I

> never figured out what to do to help though. Sorry I can't be help

> there.

>

>

>

Jacquie, I did not want to be the first to say it, but this was my first

indication of being pregnant with as well.....you were just saying last

week or so though that you were feeling incredibly bitchy b/c of your'e

period weren't you? So it does not sound like you need to worry about that,

Right? Dont know what to tell you, maybe a heating pad or a nice hot bath?

Ask Dr. ..she's got all the answers fort these things..LOL

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In a message dated 10/3/01 4:56:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jacquie_harris@... writes:

> ,

> I think that was the other Jacquie who was complaining about

> period problems.(sorry if I am wrong) I think this is the first time

> I have ever posted something like this

oops, sorry about that...heres hoping you feel better anyhow!!

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In a message dated 10/3/01 5:19:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jacquie_harris@... writes:

> ,

> send those pills my way! Maybe I can just sleep through this whole

> yucky thing! AGHHHHHHHHH! LOL

> Jacquie H

>

Gee, how many you need?....btw, i have some anti-inflamatory pills too, will

thos do?

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In a message dated 10/3/01 6:44:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gracekeh@... writes:

> You can have both ankles. No, wait - you have have both legs. We'll see if

> " they " can deny me disability then. I fractured my patella on my right knee

> once, but other than that - - they are both in good shape.

>

> Can i have your address? I need to call my UPS man.... and while my

> contractor is still here with his chainsaw.... gotta catch him too. Want my

> address LMAO!!!??

>

>

>

HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!

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In a message dated 10/3/01 9:55:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

reynoldspm@... writes:

> Gee Thanks , I feel honored. You yourself offered an excellent

> suggestion. Hot pads/shower, or ice may offer some relief. This

> can be symptomatic of pregnancy, but it can also be symptomatic of

> PMS. Time will tell. In the meantime, take some vitamins, calcium

> is good for the nerves, drink lots of water and take a hot bath. :)

>

>

>

>

Hey thanks , does this make me a physicians asst.? LOL

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Grace,

just come over here. I don't want your contractor's license

revoked on an assult charge. If that happens your kitchen will never

get done! LOL I will give you the pills I have. Just dont cut off

your ankles! LOL

Jacquie H

> > Okay, heres the deal..someboody trade me for an ankle that is in

decent

> > functional shape, and I'll send ya all the darn pills i've got.

LOL

> >

> >

>

> You can have both ankles. No, wait - you have have both legs.

We'll see if

> " they " can deny me disability then. I fractured my patella on my

right knee

> once, but other than that - - they are both in good shape.

>

> Can i have your address? I need to call my UPS man.... and while my

> contractor is still here with his chainsaw.... gotta catch him

too. Want my

> address LMAO!!!??

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Jacquie,

My first reaction is to just tell you to walk around naked. I was having a

similar reaction when I first started my celexa. For me, my nipples itched

constantly. It was so horrible. I don't know what would help the best, but

my first choice would be lots of motrin. That usually helps with the PMS

stuff. Otherwise, might you be pregnant? I had the same pins and needles

stuff when I was prego.

Amy H

Kepler 4 ASD and Bethany 5 & 1/2 NT

" Illegitimus non carborundum "

(Lat: Don't let the bastards grind you down)

-Gen. ph Stilwell

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Grace,

LOL.....now you know if you read only this you would just think

we were crazy. If you stayed a day in my house and got to know about

my life and me then you would KNOW we are crazy! LOL

Jacquie H

> > LOL I will give you the pills I have. Just dont cut off

> > your ankles! LOL

>

>

> What a statement this is. It's just a fabulous statement LOL!!!

>

> Grace

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Thanks for the idea. Don't what to say about walking atround naked.

While I think it would make me feel sooooooo much better I think that

it would be my luck that the in laws would stop by unannouced! LOL

They do itch bad though. Motrin hasnt kicked in yet but I have my

fingers crossed!

Jacquie H

> Jacquie,

> My first reaction is to just tell you to walk around naked. I was

having a

> similar reaction when I first started my celexa. For me, my

nipples itched

> constantly. It was so horrible. I don't know what would help the

best, but

> my first choice would be lots of motrin. That usually helps with

the PMS

> stuff. Otherwise, might you be pregnant? I had the same pins and

needles

> stuff when I was prego.

>

> Amy H

> Kepler 4 ASD and Bethany 5 & 1/2 NT

> " Illegitimus non carborundum "

> (Lat: Don't let the bastards grind you down)

> -Gen. ph Stilwell

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

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In a message dated 10/3/01 10:55:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

reynoldspm@... writes:

>

> > Hey thanks , does this make me a physicians asst.? LOL

> >

> >

>

> Yes you may. I'll hang your imaginary shingle right next to mine in

> my pseudo office. :)

>

> We can consult with Sara for her wonderful suggestion on the cabbage

> leaves which I had entirely neglected to mention. Seriously, they

> work great for painful breast, at least for nursing moms.

>

>

>

>

> -

Hey, I guess we have our own practrice now..........

cindy

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Dont know what to tell you, maybe a heating pad or a nice hot bath?

> Ask Dr. ..she's got all the answers fort these things..LOL

>

Gee Thanks , I feel honored. You yourself offered an excellent

suggestion. Hot pads/shower, or ice may offer some relief. This

can be symptomatic of pregnancy, but it can also be symptomatic of

PMS. Time will tell. In the meantime, take some vitamins, calcium

is good for the nerves, drink lots of water and take a hot bath. :)

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I gotta take a bath. Sounds good even if it doesnt help! Then some

ice packs and cabbage leaves with a handful of motrin! LOL Gawd! This

has to end!

Jacquie H

> Dont know what to tell you, maybe a heating pad or a nice hot

bath?

> > Ask Dr. ..she's got all the answers fort these things..LOL

> >

>

> Gee Thanks , I feel honored. You yourself offered an

excellent

> suggestion. Hot pads/shower, or ice may offer some relief. This

> can be symptomatic of pregnancy, but it can also be symptomatic of

> PMS. Time will tell. In the meantime, take some vitamins, calcium

> is good for the nerves, drink lots of water and take a hot bath. :)

>

>

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> Hey thanks , does this make me a physicians asst.? LOL

>

>

Yes you may. I'll hang your imaginary shingle right next to mine in

my pseudo office. :)

We can consult with Sara for her wonderful suggestion on the cabbage

leaves which I had entirely neglected to mention. Seriously, they

work great for painful breast, at least for nursing moms.

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> Dont know what to tell you, maybe a heating pad or a nice hot bath?

> > Ask Dr. ..she's got all the answers fort these things..LOL

> >

>

> Gee Thanks , I feel honored. You yourself offered an excellent

> suggestion. Hot pads/shower, or ice may offer some relief. This

> can be symptomatic of pregnancy, but it can also be symptomatic of

> PMS. Time will tell. In the meantime, take some vitamins, calcium

> is good for the nerves, drink lots of water and take a hot bath. :)

Gee, , last time you offered whiskey.

Salli

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In the meantime, take some vitamins, calcium

> > is good for the nerves, drink lots of water and take a hot

bath. :)

>

> Gee, , last time you offered whiskey.

>

> Salli

Yes, but whiskey works so well for bone pain. Cabbage leaves and hot

baths work better for sore breats. If taken liberally whiskey may

cause one not to CARE about the sore breasts however. LOL.

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> > I hate to say this but I got the same sensation as my first

> > indication of my being pregnant for each of my 4 pregnancies. I

> > never figured out what to do to help though. Sorry I can't be help

> > there.

> >

> >

yep. Me too.

Sis

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I didn't want to say,, but YEP me too PG is what came to my mind.

Kerri

> > > I hate to say this but I got the same sensation as my first

> > > indication of my being pregnant for each of my 4 pregnancies.

I

> > > never figured out what to do to help though. Sorry I can't be

help

> > > there.

> > >

> > >

>

>

> yep. Me too.

> Sis

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OK, OK, OK!!!!!!!!!! I am probably not pregnant. I think I told you

guys a long time ago that my husband and I had decided to have

another baby. Well months and months ago we decided to start trying.

I think it has been almost a year now. Nothing happened and so then

we decided to just let it be. So while we are not " trying " we having

been doing something to stop it. Not that we have much time to make

it happen either;) I am guessing I am just having a bad case of PMS

but I have no idea what day of my cycle this is. I am either a few

days late or have a few days to go at my best guess. But I promise

you all that you guys will be the first ones to know one way or

another:)

Jacquie H

> I ALSO did not want to be the first one to say this, but when I

read

> your post....the first thing I thought of was " pregnant " .

>

> Oh my.

>

> Penny :-)

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>

> We can consult with Sara for her wonderful suggestion on the

cabbage

> leaves which I had entirely neglected to mention. Seriously, they

> work great for painful breast, at least for nursing moms.

>

>

Please! someone explain the miraculous effects of the almighty

cabbage!

Penny

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> Please! someone explain the miraculous effects of the almighty

> cabbage!

>

> Penny

Penny, I don't know why or how. I just KNOW that it works.

Honestly. It really does work.

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> > Please! someone explain the miraculous effects of the almighty

> > cabbage!

> >

> > Penny

>

> Penny, I don't know why or how. I just KNOW that it works.

> Honestly. It really does work.

>

>

OK, the resident witch and herbalist steps in...(ahem, in a dr. ruth

kind of lecture voice)

Cabbage is one of those vegables that gets REALLY cold, which when

you are nursing, helps ease the swelling due to engorgement. The same

PRINCIPLE happens when you are bleeding. Prior to your period, your

body is still getting ready to nourish and support a pregnancy, as it

does every month. Included in these prepatations in extra blood and

horomones migrating into the breasts to begin stretching the tissue

in prep. for nursing. When the body does not become preggo, the extra

fluids and horomones slowly dissapate, and start again after teh

period ends. Hence boobies that are sore, tender, ad downright

painful. Now, how the cabbage helps. Cabbage contains a natural

ingredient (no one knows what it is) that works like a pain killer

and anti imflammatory and antibiotic all rolled into one, and it

absorbs thru the skin. Most people do not eat raw cabbage, and these

ingredients cook out. But placing the COLD cabbacge leaves on your

skin, and allowing them to sit until warm, releases these ingredients

into your skin nd blood stream, and begins to heal the stretched and

damaged tissuein your breasts, and it begins to work immediately.It

takes a variable amount of leaves per person, some needing few, and

some (like me) needing damn near a whole head of cabbage for relief.

In theroy, this principle should work regardless of your

pregnancy/nursing status.

*end of lecture*

, who feels like she know a little too much aboutuseless things,

and is now blushing with her self-smug spouting of knowledge

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> , who feels like she know a little too much aboutuseless

things,

> and is now blushing with her self-smug spouting of knowledge

Not useless . Those cold cabbage leaves felt SO good when I

needed them. It was the most amazing thing how well they worked.

AHHHHHH. Instant relief.

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> > Please! someone explain the miraculous effects of the almighty

> > cabbage!

> >

> > Penny

>

> Penny, I don't know why or how. I just KNOW that it works.

> Honestly. It really does work.

>

>

OK...I'll take your word for it. The next time my breasts itch, I

will try it. Of course, my dh will probably have me committed.

Picture it.... me walking around with a cabbage leaf covering each

breast. Oh brother.

BTW...Cooked or Raw?

LOL

Penny

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> OK...I'll take your word for it. The next time my breasts itch, I

> will try it. Of course, my dh will probably have me committed.

> Picture it.... me walking around with a cabbage leaf covering each

> breast. Oh brother.

>

> BTW...Cooked or Raw?

>

> LOL

> Penny

Raw. Nice and cold too from the fridge. You can soften them up a

bit with a rolling pin first so they fit in the bra better. Then

say, " ahhhhhh "

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