Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Sheri I just participated in a Salary Tele-coaching seminar. One of the primary things I took away from that seminar to know your market value. Who would pay the difference between what the students pay and what you charge? I would definitely find out what the market value of nutrition counseling is in your geographic area. Carol <file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Carol\My%20Pictures\ComboX1.bmp> Carol S. Casey, BSc, RD, CDN (Gaelic translation: Caral Siobhán ÓCathasaigh) *Visit http://www.carolscasey.com for all your nutrition/healthcare marketing needs. *Visit http://nutritionalmatters.blogspot.com to learn more about the gerontological nutrition and related news. *Visit http://ledgelightnutritionservices.blogspot.com where food brings people together in updated news and research *W ant to put a smile in to your day, join: Smile_All_Over *and remember....You are never completely dressed unless you are wearing a smile. *Galatians 5:22, Mark 7:21-23, Colossians 3:17 _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:31 PM To: rd-usa Subject: Consulting Hi Everyone, I've been asked to do consulting work for a local college. It's for students who want to talk with someone about anything in the world of eating. What do you think is a good hourly rate to charge the college? All the kids have to pay is the minimal $5 fee. This would strictly be based on appointments only which could vary from week to week. Any other advice is also appreciated! Thanks, Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Terrific advice, Carol! Now I know how you most valued from my teleseminar today ; ) Yes, Sherri: know what your service worth--to you (time, effort) and in the market place. Does the college have a budget for the service they're requesting? Can you get them to name a figure first? Does it take into consideration your travel time? If appointments vary from week to week, it's likely they will not be efficiently scheduled. (E.g, One at 9 AM, one at 1 PM; one on Tuesday, one of Friday, etc.) Will they pay for no-show appointments (guaranteed to be high among students)? The $5 is a token and should have no bearing on determining *your* fee. I've posed several issues, not to discourage you, but to help you examine all the factors involved so you don't undersell your value. All the best, Pat Katepoo, RD The Salary Coach for Dietitians http://CareerCoachRD.com Free Career Coach RD enewsletter Subscribe today: http://careercoachrd.com/subscribe.htm At 04:40 PM 1/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Sheri > >I just participated in a Salary Tele-coaching seminar. One of the primary >things I took away from that seminar to know your market value. Who would >pay the difference between what the students pay and what you charge? I >would definitely find out what the market value of nutrition counseling is >in your geographic area. > >Carol >Carol S. Casey, BSc, RD, CDN > >From: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usa >[mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of >Sherri Kramp >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:31 PM >To: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usa >Subject: Consulting > >Hi Everyone, > >I've been asked to do consulting work for a local college. It's for >students who want to talk with someone about anything in the world of >eating. > >What do you think is a good hourly rate to charge the college? All the >kids have to pay is the minimal $5 fee. This would strictly be based on >appointments only which could vary from week to week. > >Any other advice is also appreciated! > >Thanks, >Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri >>> pat@... 01/09/07 5:13 PM >>> Terrific advice, Carol! Now I know how you most valued from my teleseminar today ; ) Yes, Sherri: know what your service worth--to you (time, effort) and in the market place. Does the college have a budget for the service they're requesting? Can you get them to name a figure first? Does it take into consideration your travel time? If appointments vary from week to week, it's likely they will not be efficiently scheduled. (E.g, One at 9 AM, one at 1 PM; one on Tuesday, one of Friday, etc.) Will they pay for no-show appointments (guaranteed to be high among students)? The $5 is a token and should have no bearing on determining *your* fee. I've posed several issues, not to discourage you, but to help you examine all the factors involved so you don't undersell your value. All the best, Pat Katepoo, RD The Salary Coach for Dietitians http://CareerCoachRD.com Free Career Coach RD enewsletter Subscribe today: http://careercoachrd.com/subscribe.htm At 04:40 PM 1/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Sheri > >I just participated in a Salary Tele-coaching seminar. One of the primary >things I took away from that seminar to know your market value. Who would >pay the difference between what the students pay and what you charge? I >would definitely find out what the market value of nutrition counseling is >in your geographic area. > >Carol >Carol S. Casey, BSc, RD, CDN > >From: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usa >[mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of >Sherri Kramp >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:31 PM >To: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usa >Subject: Consulting > >Hi Everyone, > >I've been asked to do consulting work for a local college. It's for >students who want to talk with someone about anything in the world of >eating. > >What do you think is a good hourly rate to charge the college? All the >kids have to pay is the minimal $5 fee. This would strictly be based on >appointments only which could vary from week to week. > >Any other advice is also appreciated! > >Thanks, >Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 Sherri Absolutely, without a doubt YES! As Dr. Hung had mentioned in the past, our malpractice insurance sure does gives lots of bang for the buck! You need to protect yourself and your assets! Carol <file:///C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Carol\My%20Pictures\ComboX1.bmp> Carol S. Casey, BSc, RD, CDN (Gaelic translation: Caral Siobhán ÓCathasaigh) *Visit http://www.carolscasey.com for all your nutrition/healthcare marketing needs. *Visit http://nutritionalmatters.blogspot.com to learn more about the gerontological nutrition and related news. *Visit http://ledgelightnutritionservices.blogspot.com where food brings people together in updated news and research *W ant to put a smile in to your day, join: Smile_All_Over *and remember....You are never completely dressed unless you are wearing a smile. *Galatians 5:22, Mark 7:21-23, Colossians 3:17 _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:03 PM To: pat@...; rd-usa Cc: carolcasey@... Subject: RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri >>> patcareercoachrd (DOT) <mailto:pat%40careercoachrd.com> com 01/09/07 5:13 PM >>> Terrific advice, Carol! Now I know how you most valued from my teleseminar today ; ) Yes, Sherri: know what your service worth--to you (time, effort) and in the market place. Does the college have a budget for the service they're requesting? Can you get them to name a figure first? Does it take into consideration your travel time? If appointments vary from week to week, it's likely they will not be efficiently scheduled. (E.g, One at 9 AM, one at 1 PM; one on Tuesday, one of Friday, etc.) Will they pay for no-show appointments (guaranteed to be high among students)? The $5 is a token and should have no bearing on determining *your* fee. I've posed several issues, not to discourage you, but to help you examine all the factors involved so you don't undersell your value. All the best, Pat Katepoo, RD The Salary Coach for Dietitians http://CareerCoachR <http://CareerCoachRD.com> D.com Free Career Coach RD enewsletter Subscribe today: http://careercoachr <http://careercoachrd.com/subscribe.htm> d.com/subscribe.htm At 04:40 PM 1/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Sheri > >I just participated in a Salary Tele-coaching seminar. One of the primary >things I took away from that seminar to know your market value. Who would >pay the difference between what the students pay and what you charge? I >would definitely find out what the market value of nutrition counseling is >in your geographic area. > >Carol >Carol S. Casey, BSc, RD, CDN > >From: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> com >[mailto:rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf Of >Sherri Kramp >Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:31 PM >To: <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com>rd-usayahoogroups (DOT) <mailto:rd-usa%40yahoogroups.com> com >Subject: Consulting > >Hi Everyone, > >I've been asked to do consulting work for a local college. It's for >students who want to talk with someone about anything in the world of >eating. > >What do you think is a good hourly rate to charge the college? All the >kids have to pay is the minimal $5 fee. This would strictly be based on >appointments only which could vary from week to week. > >Any other advice is also appreciated! > >Thanks, >Sherri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 In a message dated 1/10/2007 3:12:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, carolscasey@... writes: From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:03 PM To: _pat@..._ (mailto:pat@...) ; _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Cc: _carolcasey@..._ (mailto:carolcasey@...) Subject: RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri I'd advise MUCH caution with this approach! Years ago (20), the local RD was charging $12/hour for " consulting positions. " I went out to get the same contracts when she moved - charged 30/hour. Got the contracts. IF I'd have positioned myself even remotely to what the old RD was making, I'd have made 1/2 of what I was worth! There's always the risk the other RDs undervalued themselves! Jan Patenaude, RD Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation _www.nowleap.com_ (http://www.nowleap.com/) (Mountain Time) (toll free) Fax: DineRight4@... Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Yes, I know what you mean. Well as it turned out the past RD charged $55/hr and that included travel time and even if the student was a no show. The director did agree that I should get malpractice insurance. Does anybody have an idea how much that costs? I live in Northern Indiana. Is it a big ordeal to get? Thanks, Sherri >>> Dineright4@... 1/10/2007 10:53 PM >>> In a message dated 1/10/2007 3:12:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, carolscasey@... writes: From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:03 PM To: _pat@..._ (mailto:pat@...) ; _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Cc: _carolcasey@..._ (mailto:carolcasey@...) Subject: RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri I'd advise MUCH caution with this approach! Years ago (20), the local RD was charging $12/hour for " consulting positions. " I went out to get the same contracts when she moved - charged 30/hour. Got the contracts. IF I'd have positioned myself even remotely to what the old RD was making, I'd have made 1/2 of what I was worth! There's always the risk the other RDs undervalued themselves! Jan Patenaude, RD Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation _www.nowleap.com_ (http://www.nowleap.com/) (Mountain Time) (toll free) Fax: DineRight4@... Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 DEFINITELY get insurance! You can get it through Marsh (ADA members get a discount I think) and it's like $80/year. I charge $50/hour. I don't get mileage, but do keep track of it as a business expense for taxes. Collier, RD Shore Memorial Hospital 9507 Hospital Avenue PO Box 17 Nassawadox, VA 23413 fax To eat is a necessity, but to eat intelligently is an art. -LaRoche foucauld RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri I'd advise MUCH caution with this approach! Years ago (20), the local RD was charging $12/hour for " consulting positions. " I went out to get the same contracts when she moved - charged 30/hour. Got the contracts. IF I'd have positioned myself even remotely to what the old RD was making, I'd have made 1/2 of what I was worth! There's always the risk the other RDs undervalued themselves! Jan Patenaude, RD Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation _www.nowleap.com_ ( http://www.nowleap. <http://www.nowleap.com/> com/) (Mountain Time) (toll free) Fax: DineRight4aol (DOT) <mailto:DineRight4%40aol.com> com Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 charge what the school MD is getting! you're worth it Dineright4@... wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2007 3:12:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, carolscasey@... writes: From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:03 PM To: _pat@..._ (mailto:pat@...) ; _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Cc: _carolcasey@..._ (mailto:carolcasey@...) Subject: RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri I'd advise MUCH caution with this approach! Years ago (20), the local RD was charging $12/hour for " consulting positions. " I went out to get the same contracts when she moved - charged 30/hour. Got the contracts. IF I'd have positioned myself even remotely to what the old RD was making, I'd have made 1/2 of what I was worth! There's always the risk the other RDs undervalued themselves! Jan Patenaude, RD Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation _www.nowleap.com_ (http://www.nowleap.com/) (Mountain Time) (toll free) Fax: DineRight4@... Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 So they were willing to pay a diet tech $30/hr?! And how much education do you have over a diet tech? I think this is the biggest flaw of our profession accept what is offered. After we're in a job we find out what they paid our predecessor. Sharon Staier wrote: This is all very valuable and timely information. I've been consulting part-time at a college and was told the RD prior to me was paid 25/hr. The most they could pay me was 30/hour and so that is what I accepted. This felt low, but I felt like I was being hired as more of a nutrition educator, out of dining services; in fact on my hiring form I found out it says :Diet tech, not RD. This I need to have changed. The main benefit is schedule flexibility. I do work part-time from home, bill for any computer/email time I have with students or the university. Now I am working out of health services and am clearly doing clinical dietitian work with complicated cases. The company does reimburse my fees for malpractice, ADA/CDR fees and up to 150 for CEU's. I have my one year review next week and am considering bringing up the following points: 1. The work out of Health Services is clearly more clinical, clearly RD work. 2. Health Services is planning on billing to insurance in the next year. 3. 30 is well below the average current consultant pay 4. I have done workshops for Athletic Services and Health Education, teaching students. 5. I have letters of appreciation from each department I have worked with. Any other points to make? Unfortunately, with the flexiblity I am afforded, I don't really want to walk away from this so I don't have a take it or leave it mentality. I just think I need to ask for more based on what I see you all getting paid. Thanks. I appreciate your expert guideance. (Is " LD/N " the correct way to note licensure and is it necessary or beneficial to put it after our name?) Sharon Staier, MS, RD, LD/N Family and Sports Nutrition Cape Cod, MA Kathy Bingham wrote: charge what the school MD is getting! you're worth it Dineright4@... wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2007 3:12:45 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, carolscasey@... writes: From: _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) [mailto:_rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) ] On Behalf Of Sherri Kramp Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:03 PM To: _pat@..._ (mailto:pat@...) ; _rd-usa@...-_ (mailto:rd-usa ) Cc: _carolcasey@..._ (mailto:carolcasey@...) Subject: RE: Consulting Those were terrific issues to think about and I have posed those questions to the Director of Student Health Services. I'm wondering about malpractice insurance. Would you recommend it? I've also asked the Director what the past RD's hourly rate was to perhaps start a dollar figure somewhere. Thank you, Sherri I'd advise MUCH caution with this approach! Years ago (20), the local RD was charging $12/hour for " consulting positions. " I went out to get the same contracts when she moved - charged 30/hour. Got the contracts. IF I'd have positioned myself even remotely to what the old RD was making, I'd have made 1/2 of what I was worth! There's always the risk the other RDs undervalued themselves! Jan Patenaude, RD Director of Medical Nutrition Signet Diagnostic Corporation _www.nowleap.com_ (http://www.nowleap.com/) (Mountain Time) (toll free) Fax: DineRight4@... Mediator Release Testing and LEAP Diet Protocol for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Migraine, Fibromyalgia and more, caused by food sensitivity IMPORTANT - This e-mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, you are hereby notified that we do not consent to any reading, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and telephone ( toll free) and destroy the transmitted information. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late, incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Just to share: I am doing a corporate wellness program. I requested a diet tech or a student (either tech student or 4 year student) to assist with checking in people for class and taking weights- 20 people to a class. I would also need assistance setting up papers (I would clean up myself!)- more clerical than nutrition but I thought good experience. In addition, I will be hiring in the next year another person and am unsure if I will need a tech or RD, so good experience with likely P/T job. Total time expected was 60 minutes 1-2 times a week, and I give a schedule for 3 months. It paid $30 a hour. I had 2 people apply, one (BS student)did not want to be obligated to 2 nights a week nad the other accepted. She cancelled (an diet tech student) because she felt it paid too little! I refused to budge as I thought the pay was very good for the time nad job. I plan on hiring a high school student! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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