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It sure sounds as if you need more HC, but to be sure do a temp graph

per instructions found at www.drrind.com for about 4 - 5 days and then

post your results. If there is more than .02 degrees difference in the

daily averages, you need more HC.

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Val,

I haven't been taking my temperature this last week, but my

temperature chart before that shows fluctions of from .04 to over a

whole degree. Do you think maybe I should go ahead and increase my

second does of H/C to 10 mg? (Currently takinng 10, 5, 5 should I go

to 10,10,5)?

elyse

> It sure sounds as if you need more HC, but to be sure do a temp graph

> per instructions found at www.drrind.com for about 4 - 5 days and then

> post your results. If there is more than .02 degrees difference in the

> daily averages, you need more HC.

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OK, I'll increase it. After I've done 10, 10, 5 for four or five

days, would I go 10, 10, 10 ? Doe anyone go more than 30 mg a day?

I thought that was the max.

elyse

>>> (Currently takinng 10, 5, 5 should I go

> to 10,10,5)?<<

>

> With those fluctuations, I sure would.

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I take 10 10 10mg

Vicki

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OK, I'll increase it. After I've done 10, 10, 5 for four or five

days, would I go 10, 10, 10 ? Doe anyone go more than 30 mg a day?

I thought that was the max.

elyse

>>> (Currently takinng 10, 5, 5 should I go

> to 10,10,5)?<<

>

> With those fluctuations, I sure would.

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Maybe I don't need thyroid any more or at least a lot less? (I takeone grain a day, split in two doses).

How long have you held this low dose of Armour?

How can I figure out what Ineed to do?

chart your temp as suggests.

I get panicky and anxious about the littlest things, Ican't get anything accomplished.

It'll get better eventually. Not easy sometimes to figure out

what to fix...but it'll happen. ;-) Hang in there and keep posting

your progress/questions.

....

elyse

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>> After I've done 10, 10, 5 for four or five

days, would I go 10, 10, 10 ?<<

You want to hold EACH raise for at least a month to really feel what it is doing

for you. I take 30MG a day and take 10-10-5 and then a bedtime 5MG.

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I've never taken more than one grain of armour. Do you think it's

low? I'm even wondering if I should back off of what I'm taking.

elyse

>

> Maybe I don't need thyroid any more or at least a lot less? (I take

> one grain a day, split in two doses).

>

> How long have you held this low dose of Armour?

>

> How can I figure out what I

> need to do?

>

> chart your temp as suggests.

>

> I get panicky and anxious about the littlest things, I

> can't get anything accomplished.

>

> It'll get better eventually. Not easy sometimes to figure out

> what to fix...but it'll happen. ;-) Hang in there and keep posting

> your progress/questions.

> ...

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Oh, Elyse! One grain is LOW. Most people need 3-5 grains to be

healthy--and anxiety is a hypo symptom, so that may be a BIG part of

your problem.

Deborah

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> ,

> I've never taken more than one grain of armour. Do you think it's

> low? I'm even wondering if I should back off of what I'm taking.

>

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Interesting,

I thought anxiety was from too much thyroid or too low H/C, but I can

see how either side of the pendulum can cause the same symptoms. The

thing is, I'm confused about what to do next.... increase H/C or

thyroid?

elyse

> Oh, Elyse! One grain is LOW. Most people need 3-5 grains to be

> healthy--and anxiety is a hypo symptom, so that may be a BIG part of

> your problem.

>

> Deborah

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Hold for one month? I thought we would hold for less than a week.

>>> After I've done 10, 10, 5 for four or five

> days, would I go 10, 10, 10 ?<<

>

>

> You want to hold EACH raise for at least a month to really feel

> what it is doing for you. I take 30MG a day and take 10-10-5 and

> then a bedtime 5MG.

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I'm vague on just where you are--can you give me a quick summary?

You're on one grain Armour? For how long? How much HC? You're at

20mg? For how long? Did you decrease or stop the Armour while

increasing the HC?

Deborah

macedgeca wrote:

> Interesting,

> I thought anxiety was from too much thyroid or too low H/C, but I can

> see how either side of the pendulum can cause the same symptoms. The

> thing is, I'm confused about what to do next.... increase H/C or

> thyroid?.

>

>

>

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That's only until you get to 20mg. Hold there for at least a month to

see if it'll be enough for you--it is, for most people.

Deborah

macedgeca wrote:

> Hold for one month? I thought we would hold for less than a week.

>

>

>

> >>> After I've done 10, 10, 5 for four or five

> > days, would I go 10, 10, 10 ?<<

> >

> >

> > You want to hold EACH raise for at least a month to really feel

> > what it is doing for you. I take 30MG a day and take 10-10-5 and

> > then a bedtime 5MG.

>

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>>I thought we would hold for less than a week.<<

Over 20MG a day you want to hold the raises longer. You only want to take

JUSTenough HC not more than you need.

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I know this is the ADRENALS list but I think that holding one grain of Armour for too long is part of your problem... The files of the main NTH list have a couple of articles that are very informative.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormones/files/

or http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/mistakes-patients-make/

I think you might need to hold your H/C dose while you look at adjusting your Armour.

Just my .02

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,I've never taken more than one grain of armour. Do you think it'slow? I'm even wondering if I should back off of what I'm taking. elyse

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HI Deborah,

I've been keeping records, so I'll post where I've made changes.

I've been on armour for quite a while before starting with this

group. I was taking 1 grain all at one time in the morning whenever

I woke (different every day). I'm now taking it close to the same

time every day.

sometime in May 2006, I switched from 1 grain in the am to split dose

half and half

May 23 started H/C

June 2 went off thyroid temporarily until I got H/C up a bit.

Was extremely hyper, totally sleepless at night.

Jun 14 back on armour, only half grain in am

Jun 18 reached 20mg of H/C per day (10, 5, 5)

Jun 23 to now - have been trying second dose of armour on again off

again, trouble with it making me hyper even though I'm still tired

I know that ultimately I need more thyroid, I have extreme neck and

shoulder pain associated with low thyroid, but it's very confusing

which to increase first. I really appreciate any help in trying to

sort this out. Thanks,

Elyse

> I'm vague on just where you are--can you give me a quick summary?

> You're on one grain Armour? For how long? How much HC? You're at

> 20mg? For how long? Did you decrease or stop the Armour while

> increasing the HC?

>

> Deborah

>

> macedgeca wrote:

>

>> Interesting,

>> I thought anxiety was from too much thyroid or too low H/C, but I can

>> see how either side of the pendulum can cause the same symptoms. The

>> thing is, I'm confused about what to do next.... increase H/C or

>> thyroid?.

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I'm interested in your input too. I've managed to get confused about

what to to do first, increase H/C or armour? My anxiety levels are

very high (incapacitating), neck and shoulder pain are very high as

well, and my daily temperature averages fluctuate quite a bit.

Below is when I started on H/C and what changes I've made with it and

armour. I'd appreciate your advice.

Before I started on this group, I was taking 1 grain all at one time

when I woke up.

May 2006, I switched from 1 grain in the am to split dose half and half

May 23 started H/C

June 2 went off thyroid temporarily until I got H/C up a bit.

Was extremely hyper, totally sleepless at night.

Jun 14 back on armour, only half grain in am

Jun 18 reached 20mg of H/C per day (10, 5, 5)

Jun 23 to now - have been trying second dose of armour on again off

again, trouble with it making me hyper even though I'm still tired

Now that I'm on 20 mg H/C and half grain armour, do I increase H/C

or armour? Thanks,

Elyse

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>>Jun 23 to now - have been trying second dose of armour on again off

again, trouble with it making me hyper even though I'm still tired

Now that I'm on 20 mg H/C and half grain armour, do I increase H/C

or armour? Thanks,<<

if that extra Armour is giving you hyper symptoms at this low dose, it is not

true hyper but adrenal fatigue. You need more HC, and give that a week or two to

work before trying an Armour increase again.

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