Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 The question is why? I've been on 5 grains for about 6 weeks and feeling good, started losing a bit of weight. At the same time that I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and started sleeping better than I've done for years. Might you be taking too much Lynda? NOVA Counselling & Healing Services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 ok, I haven't been paying attention to what my body was telling me! Ankles and feet started swelling, I put it down to the hot weather Tinnitus much worse but it always has waxed and waned At the weekend I fell asleep during the day, haven't done that for ages Tongue enlarged so much that the sides are sore from scraping against my teeth Finally, today water started tasting bitter - I suddenly remember saying that she thought water tasted bitter when she was hypo. So the penny finally dropped and I realised that I've gone hypo again The question is why? I've been on 5 grains for about 6 weeks and feeling good, started losing a bit of weight. At the same time that I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and started sleeping better than I've done for years. So would the increase in h/c make the armour more available and am I now running out? I really can't afford to take more armour as I don't have a script and it costs a fortune to order from our sources. But if needs must... The only other thing I can think of is that I was taking iodoral 12.5mg x 4 for 3 months, then weaned down to 12.5 x 3, then 12.5 x 2 I wonder if the drop in this could be the cause - again, an expensive supplement that I was hoping not to have to take long term Lynda C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I find when you are getting NEAR your perfect dose, the time between going hypo is extended. I would try a 1/4 grain increase in Armour FIRST. If thatdoesn;t help your symptoms, the increase the Iodine a bit. Thyroid hormones are made of Iodine, so it definitely can affect your thyroid levels to add it in. My last dose changes I have held for about 4=6 MONTHS to fully feel what they did, but I am going on symptoms alone. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >>At the same time that I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and started sleeping better than I've done for years.<< More cortisol uses more thyroid, and more thyroid needs more cortisol. Usually when you increase one (with adrenal fatigue) you need to increase the other. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I bet it was the iodoral that changed it for you. Yo ucan try Lugol's solution, its cheaper, you put one or two drops in water or juice and drink it, per day. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ suddenly hypo > ok, I haven't been paying attention to what my body was telling me! > Ankles and feet started swelling, I put it down to the hot weather > Tinnitus much worse but it always has waxed and waned > At the weekend I fell asleep during the day, haven't done that for > ages > Tongue enlarged so much that the sides are sore from scraping against > my teeth > Finally, today water started tasting bitter - I suddenly remember > saying that she thought water tasted bitter when she was hypo. > So the penny finally dropped and I realised that I've gone hypo again > > The question is why? I've been on 5 grains for about 6 weeks and > feeling good, started losing a bit of weight. At the same time that > I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and > started sleeping better than I've done for years. > > So would the increase in h/c make the armour more available and am I > now running out? I really can't afford to take more armour as I > don't have a script and it costs a fortune to order from our sources. > But if needs must... > > The only other thing I can think of is that I was taking iodoral > 12.5mg x 4 for 3 months, then weaned down to 12.5 x 3, then 12.5 x 2 > I wonder if the drop in this could be the cause - again, an expensive > supplement that I was hoping not to have to take long term > > Lynda C > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I've been on 3 grains for about 2 1/2 months. I just went up to 3 1/2 this weekend, as I'm starting to feel tired in the afternoon, and the aches and pains, and my " waddling " gait is coming back. I've had a few headaches lately, too, and the weight loss has plateaued. We'll see! I was hoping to stay around 3 grains since I have an rx for that, and I think my MD's head will pop right off and sail into orbit if I ask for 3 1/2 or 4, roflmao!!!!! Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: suddenly hypo > I find when you are getting NEAR your perfect dose, the time between > going hypo is extended. I would try a 1/4 grain increase in Armour > FIRST. If thatdoesn;t help your symptoms, the increase the Iodine a bit. > Thyroid hormones are made of Iodine, so it definitely can affect your > thyroid levels to add it in. My last dose changes I have held for about > 4=6 MONTHS to fully feel what they did, but I am going on symptoms alone. > > -- > Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV > My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations > The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 ok but I did that. I was on 4 1/2 grains and 20mg h/c then I increased to 5 grains and 30mg h/c On that dose I felt good for about 5 weeks. Lynda Re: suddenly hypo >>At the same time that I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and started sleeping better than I've done for years.<<More cortisol uses more thyroid, and more thyroid needs more cortisol. Usually when you increase one (with adrenal fatigue) you need to increase the other. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 >>On that dose I felt good for about 5 weeks.<< That is about how long it takes for me to feel hpo again after a dose raise when I still needed more Armour. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 do you take lugol's? I have a source here that lists lugol's and lugol's strong, do you know the difference Lynda C Re: suddenly hypo >I bet it was the iodoral that changed it for you. > > Yo ucan try Lugol's solution, its cheaper, you put one or two drops > in water > or juice and drink it, per day. > > Best, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I know this doesn't belong on this list but the question is directed at . I have some generic thyroid that I could use to supplement my armour but I can't remember which one you said was strongest - Time Cap Labs or Qualitest. I have both and could add some to my 5 grains of armour. , any idea of the percentages of these two compared to armour? Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I believe th equalitest is slightly stronger than TCL. But they are close! I would say for 5 grains Armoru would equal 6 grains of either of those you have. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I don't know, I ordered mine from J.Crows and its just " lugols " . I actualy stopped taking it because I was getting a lump in my throat feeling, now I'm just taking kelp. I may try it again soon, as I'm not sure if it was me just coming down with a bug. I've been meaning to ask on the iodine list about it, but keep forgetting. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: suddenly hypo > > > >I bet it was the iodoral that changed it for you. > > > > Yo ucan try Lugol's solution, its cheaper, you put one or two drops > > in water > > or juice and drink it, per day. > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 > So the penny finally dropped and I realised that I've gone hypo again > > The question is why? I've been on 5 grains for about 6 weeks and > feeling good, started losing a bit of weight. At the same time that > I increased to 5 grains I also increased h/c from 20mg to 30mg and > started sleeping better than I've done for years. > > So would the increase in h/c make the armour more available and am I > now running out? > > The only other thing I can think of is that I was taking iodoral > 12.5mg x 4 for 3 months, then weaned down to 12.5 x 3, then 12.5 x 2 > I wonder if the drop in this could be the cause - again, an expensive > supplement that I was hoping not to have to take long term > > Lynda C I think both the HC increase and the drop in Iodoral could explain going hypo again, or perhaps it's the combination of the two. I recently started on 20 mg. HC and found I needed to bump my thyroid up 1/2 grain after being stable on the same dose (4 gr) for a year. You may not have been on Iodoral long enough to have achieved iodine sufficiency. There was a recent discussion on the Iodine group about the cost of Lugol's solution vs. Iodoral, and it seemed like using Lugol's was about 1/10 the cost of Iodoral. People said they couldn't taste the Lugol's when they put it in drinks. Their files list sources for Lugol's. www.illnessisoptional.com sells Iodoral at 20% off. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Lynn I didn't have testing to find out whether I was at full sufficiency for iodine but I thought the protocol was 50mg a day for 3 months and then taper down. I think I'm going to get Lugol's, I'm in the UK and although I did find a source here it is very expensive and last time I looked at illnessisoptional they charged a tremendous amount for overseas shipping (like 3 times what it actually would have cost them) Lynda Re: suddenly hypo > You may not have been on Iodoral long enough to have achieved iodine > sufficiency. There was a recent discussion on the Iodine group > about the > cost of Lugol's solution vs. Iodoral, and it seemed like using > Lugol's was > about 1/10 the cost of Iodoral. People said they couldn't taste the > Lugol's > when they put it in drinks. Their files list sources for Lugol's. > www.illnessisoptional.com sells Iodoral at 20% off. > > Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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