Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 .... I've been having pain in my lower back for some time now. ... I noticed my back bothering me a lot more when I started getting sick in Oct 99 from my liver. It has gotten worse since then. I was just wondering if my back pain had any connection to the liver disease. Beverly It's possible, I think. One of the " classic " symptoms of cholangitis is URQ pain " radiating " through to the back. The only time I have felt this was during a cholangitis attack. But, it's hard to seperate that out when you've got chills, fever and other aches. Arne 50 - UC 1977- PSC 2000 Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Andi, That's the kind of pain Phil has and then it generates up his neck. Peg Back Pain I still have the " between the shoulder blades " pain. It started in 99'. I thought I had wrenched my back while skating at a local skatepark but then I started to feel those weird sharp pains in my right side and knew there was something else going on. The acid reflux was bad as well. It has to be the PSC. Andi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Liver pain often radiates to the back and shoulder, and is felt as pain in those areas. Tim R --- Beverly Waters wrote: > I was just wondering if my back pain had any connection to the > liver disease. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi J,I have also been experiencing worsening low back pain lately - although I think mine has to do with being off my herbs for a month now (ran out and am waiting to have them shipped!). I do remember that when I herxed for the first time that my low back pain was considerably worse and radiating down to my legs, making it extremely painful even to walk. One thing I have found that helps a lot is doing yoga and/or stretches, especially right after waking up in the morning. -- Mauldin de BaldovinosCasa Ariki - San del Surwww.facebook.com/Ariki.San I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on lower back pain. Ive been rifing for several months for babs bart and lyme 3 min each about one a week on my stomach and my lower back pain and pins needles seems to be getting worse. Do bugs live in the lower spine? is inflammation herx possible? Kind of getting concerned the back pain is getting worse for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi, I find that taking a lot of minerals helps the pain in the lower back. These pathogens leave us pretty mineral deficient. > > > ** > > > > > > I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on lower back pain. Ive been > > rifing for several months for babs bart and lyme 3 min each about one a week > > on my stomach and my lower back pain and pins needles seems to be getting > > worse. Do bugs live in the lower spine? is inflammation herx possible? Kind > > of getting concerned the back pain is getting worse for no reason. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Jk, Sorry to hear about your back pain... Yes, spirochetes can live anywhere in the body... Some will have pain in one part of the body, someone else in another part of the body, yet both have the same disease.. Pins and needles sounds like a nerve issue, spiro's are known to damage the myelin sheath that surrounds nerves. If this was a herx, you should feel better when it has ended, sounds like you don't feel better, so may not be a herx.. You may want to lighten up on the rifing of your back and see if it helps... Also, DMSO rubbed on that area may help, works fast.. This is the brand I use... http://absolutelypets.stores.yahoo.net/dmpu99li16oz.html White Willow Bark extract is a good natural pain reliever.. http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWH148/ItemDetail Take care, Jim > > I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on lower back pain. Ive been rifing for several months for babs bart and lyme 3 min each about one a week on my stomach and my lower back pain and pins needles seems to be getting worse. Do bugs live in the lower spine? is inflammation herx possible? Kind of getting concerned the back pain is getting worse for no reason. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Jim, On the nerve thing i will see if the pin/needles get better. It was just really bad last night and i may have been herxing since i treated a day ago. Your thought on the myelin sheath is interesting. Is the following correct. The bugs eat the sheath causing nerve symtoms. Kill the bugs and you should get some relief but not a total cure. The sheath needs time to grow back. I wonder how long it takes for the myelin sheath to grow back. I stopped taking my vitamin a week ago for a test. I wonder if that effects nerves, i would think not to the point of what i felt last night and today. JK > > > > I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on lower back pain. Ive been rifing for several months for babs bart and lyme 3 min each about one a week on my stomach and my lower back pain and pins needles seems to be getting worse. Do bugs live in the lower spine? is inflammation herx possible? Kind of getting concerned the back pain is getting worse for no reason. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Jk, Yes, spiro's are believed to both eat and reside in the myelin sheath, thus exposing the nerve.. I live with gut pain that is beleived to be caused by myelin damage. I am not so sure even if you kll the spiro's you will get relief as the damage is already done.. You can use both diet and supps that may help the body rebuild the myelin sheath... I have a list of supps used for this purpose.. Not sure how long it takes to rebuild... I have never had luck with mine rebuilding... But others have. If your pins and needles just started, this may not be a severe condition... Only if it persists do you have something to be concerned about.. Another symptom of myelin damage is numbness. http://www.mcvitamins.com/neuropathy.htm >>>Nerve damage or neuropathy normally occurs when the outer sheathing or the myelin (protective covering) of nerve cells degenerate. Without this protection the electrical signals are not transferred properly just like if you stripped the covering off of the electrical wires in your house. As the nerve damage gets worse, the nerves either lose their ability to transmit information (numbness), or they start sending false signals (pain and tingling). When the insulation begins to crumble, the unprotected " wire " will start short-circuiting. <<< Take care, Jim > > > > > > I wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on lower back pain. Ive been rifing for several months for babs bart and lyme 3 min each about one a week on my stomach and my lower back pain and pins needles seems to be getting worse. Do bugs live in the lower spine? is inflammation herx possible? Kind of getting concerned the back pain is getting worse for no reason. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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