Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Yes. Definitely. MUCH better!!!! Hang in there, Steph. Deborah stephsnotes2003 wrote: > Anyone have any really good results on handleing there thyroid meds > with areanl support? Whould like to know that there is hope out there! > Thanks Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Uh, yeeaaah. My first pinch of dessicated thyroid (not Armour) was a few hour reprieve that made me see that my thyroid was why I was bed ridden. The second pinch gave me serious angina and wiped me out for the count. Starting on Isocort helped get rid of the coma/rage syndrome & saved my life by allowing me to take Armour... Isocort gave me back my (at the time) 11 y/o who was in stage 4 of adrenal stress (maladaptive II) and having daily meltdowns. (Unless you're a mom of a kid who has meltdowns you don't know stress!!!) The first couple of days of Isocort allowed her to start on Armour, too. The healing effects of adrenal support are what mood-modifying, behavior-modifying drugs aim for and can never achieve... Is that the kind of hope you're looking for? .... Anyone have any really good results on handleing there thyroid medswith areanl support? Whould like to know that there is hope out there! Thanks Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Thanks, What do you take for your adreanls? Thyroid? How long did it take you to be able to handle the thyroid after taking something for your adreanls? If I can ask what were the problems you were having before taking meds. Thanks StephDeborah Jacques wrote: Yes. Definitely. MUCH better!!!! Hang in there, Steph.Deborahstephsnotes2003 wrote:> Anyone have any really good results on handleing there thyroid meds> with areanl support? Whould like to know that there is hope out there!> Thanks Steph> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 , Yes thank you very much glad you are doing better! Thanks Steph Mateosian wrote: Uh, yeeaaah. My first pinch of dessicated thyroid (not Armour) was a few hour reprieve that made me see that my thyroid was why I was bed ridden. The second pinch gave me serious angina and wiped me out for the count. Starting on Isocort helped get rid of the coma/rage syndrome & saved my life by allowing me to take Armour... Isocort gave me back my (at the time) 11 y/o who was in stage 4 of adrenal stress (maladaptive II) and having daily meltdowns. (Unless you're a mom of a kid who has meltdowns you don't know stress!!!) The first couple of days of Isocort allowed her to start on Armour, too. The healing effects of adrenal support are what mood-modifying, behavior-modifying drugs aim for and can never achieve... Is that the kind of hope you're looking for? ... Anyone have any really good results on handleing there thyroid medswith areanl support? Whould like to know that there is hope out there! Thanks Steph How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Steph I feel great ,ost the time on HC and Armoru and T3. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Well, hypoglycemia--I'd wake up in the middle of the night and NEED to eat something NOW. Insomnia. I'd either not be able to go to sleep until like 4AM, or wake up around 1AM and not be able to go back to sleep until--you guessed it! 4AM. Hypo AND hyper symptoms, together--what a treat! Ugh. Irritability, big time. Nausea. Fatigue--what an innocuous word for just wanting to lay down and die! Feeling worse instead of better with exercise. I didn't have it TOO bad, cuz I split my dose into TINY bits. I was taking 1/8 grain every 2 hours for a long time. I started Armour at the beginning of May last year, added pregnenolone in July, idiot doc raised it and added DHEA along with time-released T3, crashed with adrenal symptoms including the return of sinus problems & allergies, switched myself to Isocort & got off the T3 in September, switched to HC in December or January & had a thyroid dump so had to start over with Armour back at 2 grains. I started with pregnenolone, which helped a little but not enough. Then Isocort, which helped a little more, but still, not enough. Then I switched to HC and I'm at 25mg and doing better. I have no problem with raising my dose--I'm at 5 grains Armour. I don't know for sure, but I think this MAY be my happy spot. It'll take some time and healing and watching temps & symptoms for a while to determine whether or not I need to raise it again. If you have low cortisol, HC will HELP and you'll be able to handle the Armour and HEAL. Deborah stephanie robertson wrote: > Thanks, What do you take for your adreanls? Thyroid? How long did it > take you to be able to handle the thyroid after taking something for > your adreanls? If I can ask what were the problems you were having > before taking meds. Thanks Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Val thats great! How long have you been on those meds? and how soon did you notice a differents? Thanks Steph wrote: Steph I feel great ,ost the time on HC and Armoru and T3.-- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WVMy Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have been on Armoru 9 years and HC abotu 1 3/4 years and T3 meds about 2 years. I have just got to a really good mix of all the last 6 months. but I am a pioneer with the T3 and Armoru as I have a particular problem wiht low T3. -- Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV My Ebay Jewelry Store http://stores.ebay.com/valeriescrystalcreations The BEST thyroid website! http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Deborah, Thanks for sharing your story. I to have hypoglycemia and insomnia,very bad depression!. Also I have have hairloss and my hair breaks off really easy. This has been going on ever since my son was born eleven years ago! Anyway I got so bad last year that I felt there was no hope so I tried to take my life. Anyway about four mounths ago a doc fially siad I need thyroid. I was so happy finally hope then I felt great on the armor for about a week or two then every thing got worse. Anyway my doc is sending me to an adreanl doc who is she siads really good. Whats funny I also found his number from abook about adreanls so I am hoping he can help. Thanks StephDeborah Jacques wrote: Well, hypoglycemia--I'd wake up in the middle of the night and NEED to eat something NOW. Insomnia. I'd either not be able to go to sleep until like 4AM, or wake up around 1AM and not be able to go back to sleep until--you guessed it! 4AM. Hypo AND hyper symptoms, together--what a treat! Ugh. Irritability, big time. Nausea. Fatigue--what an innocuous word for just wanting to lay down and die! Feeling worse instead of better with exercise.I didn't have it TOO bad, cuz I split my dose into TINY bits. I was taking 1/8 grain every 2 hours for a long time. I started Armour at the beginning of May last year, added pregnenolone in July, idiot doc raised it and added DHEA along with time-released T3, crashed with adrenal symptoms including the return of sinus problems & allergies, switched myself to Isocort & got off the T3 in September, switched to HC in December or January & had a thyroid dump so had to start over with Armour back at 2 grains.I started with pregnenolone, which helped a little but not enough. Then Isocort, which helped a little more, but still, not enough. Then I switched to HC and I'm at 25mg and doing better. I have no problem with raising my dose--I'm at 5 grains Armour. I don't know for sure, but I think this MAY be my happy spot. It'll take some time and healing and watching temps & symptoms for a while to determine whether or not I need to raise it again.If you have low cortisol, HC will HELP and you'll be able to handle the Armour and HEAL.Deborahstephanie robertson wrote:> Thanks, What do you take for your adreanls? Thyroid? How long did it > take you to be able to handle the thyroid after taking something for > your adreanls? If I can ask what were the problems you were having > before taking meds. Thanks Steph> Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Steph, I was on antidepressants a few times--most recently from early 2001 until July of last year. I was able to get off wellbutrin EASY. And I was on 400mg. I never attempted suicide, but I sure did think about it more than once--and at one point, I had a plan, too. It WILL get better. My hair was falling out, too, though not TERRIBLE--that's pretty common. With the HC, you'll do fine on Armour. In fact, there's a physical basis for your nervousness at this point, as I'm sure already told you--low cortisol will do that for you! Deborah stephanie robertson wrote: > Deborah, Thanks for sharing your story. I to have hypoglycemia and > insomnia,very bad depression!. Also I have have hairloss and my hair > breaks off really easy. This has been going on ever since my son was > born eleven years ago! Anyway I got so bad last year that I felt > there was no hope so I tried to take my life. Anyway about four > mounths ago a doc fially siad I need thyroid. I was so happy finally > hope then I felt great on the armor for about a week or two then every > thing got worse. Anyway my doc is sending me to an adreanl doc who is > she siads really good. Whats funny I also found his number from abook > about adreanls so I am hoping he can help. Thanks Steph > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Deb, thank you. I am sorry we all have to go through all this crap it is very depressing. I hope you will keep doing good. God bless Thank you StephDeborah Jacques wrote: Steph, I was on antidepressants a few times--most recently from early 2001 until July of last year. I was able to get off wellbutrin EASY. And I was on 400mg. I never attempted suicide, but I sure did think about it more than once--and at one point, I had a plan, too. It WILL get better. My hair was falling out, too, though not TERRIBLE--that's pretty common. With the HC, you'll do fine on Armour. In fact, there's a physical basis for your nervousness at this point, as I'm sure already told you--low cortisol will do that for you!Deborahstephanie robertson wrote:> Deborah, Thanks for sharing your story. I to have hypoglycemia and > insomnia,very bad depression!. Also I have have hairloss and my hair > breaks off really easy. This has been going on ever since my son was > born eleven years ago! Anyway I got so bad last year that I felt > there was no hope so I tried to take my life. Anyway about four > mounths ago a doc fially siad I need thyroid. I was so happy finally > hope then I felt great on the armor for about a week or two then every > thing got worse. Anyway my doc is sending me to an adreanl doc who is > she siads really good. Whats funny I also found his number from abook > about adreanls so I am hoping he can help. Thanks Steph> Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 How much Isocort did you give your 11 y/o? My daughter has meltdowns as well, she is 9. Just diagnosed hypo and on 1 grain per day (I've recently split her to 30 mg. am and 30 mg. around 3:30, when school gets out). I suspect she may have adrenal issues too, but she hasn't been tested. If she is high though, I shouldn't add Isocort, right? I don't know how I woudl get it in her anyway, its so bitter. I'm trying to sneak Adrneal Support Plus vitamin into protein smoothies for her. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: any good stories on areanl support???????? Uh, yeeaaah. My first pinch of dessicated thyroid (not Armour) was a few hour reprieve that made me see that my thyroid was why I was bed ridden. The second pinch gave me serious angina and wiped me out for the count. Starting on Isocort helped get rid of the coma/rage syndrome & saved my life by allowing me to take Armour... Isocort gave me back my (at the time) 11 y/o who was in stage 4 of adrenal stress (maladaptive II) and having daily meltdowns. (Unless you're a mom of a kid who has meltdowns you don't know stress!!!) The first couple of days of Isocort allowed her to start on Armour, too. The healing effects of adrenal support are what mood-modifying, behavior-modifying drugs aim for and can never achieve... Is that the kind of hope you're looking for? .... Anyone have any really good results on handleing there thyroid medswith areanl support? Whould like to know that there is hope out there! Thanks Steph No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 This isn't really about adrenals, but ... you know how I learned to swallow pills? I had strep throat or something and needed antibiotics when I was 9. I pleaded for ANYTHING but a shot in the butt as the doc got closer and closer to me with that needle. I PROMISED that I would swallow my pills and follow instructions. I learned pretty quickly that it wasn't so bad--certainly better than penicillin in the butt!!!! LOL Deborah Ives wrote: > How much Isocort did you give your 11 y/o? My daughter has meltdowns > as well, she is 9. Just diagnosed hypo and on 1 grain per day (I've > recently split her to 30 mg. am and 30 mg. around 3:30, when school > gets out). I suspect she may have adrenal issues too, but she hasn't > been tested. If she is high though, I shouldn't add Isocort, right? > I don't know how I woudl get it in her anyway, its so bitter. I'm > trying to sneak Adrneal Support Plus vitamin into protein smoothies > for her. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 My daughter would rather be sick. When I got her NutriMeds, she hid them in the couch and took my armour instead. That's how I figured out she was truly hypo, it was the best week of her life! Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: any good stories on areanl support???????? > This isn't really about adrenals, but ... you know how I learned to > swallow pills? I had strep throat or something and needed antibiotics > when I was 9. I pleaded for ANYTHING but a shot in the butt as the doc > got closer and closer to me with that needle. I PROMISED that I would > swallow my pills and follow instructions. I learned pretty quickly that > it wasn't so bad--certainly better than penicillin in the butt!!!! LOL > > Deborah > > Ives wrote: > > > How much Isocort did you give your 11 y/o? My daughter has meltdowns > > as well, she is 9. Just diagnosed hypo and on 1 grain per day (I've > > recently split her to 30 mg. am and 30 mg. around 3:30, when school > > gets out). I suspect she may have adrenal issues too, but she hasn't > > been tested. If she is high though, I shouldn't add Isocort, right? > > I don't know how I woudl get it in her anyway, its so bitter. I'm > > trying to sneak Adrneal Support Plus vitamin into protein smoothies > > for her. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 the first day we gave her one Isocort. She is up to 4 Isocort AM and 4 Isocort after lunch. (3 grains/day/split ) In restrospect, I was a chicken and way too cautious with her doses. It really is a crying shame that we moms are soooooooooo afraid of administering the correct, healing, support when so many parents are willing to dump toxic amphetamine-based mood/behavior mod drugs, Prozac - and worse - into their kids. One is right for our kids and the other has the approval of the Medical-Money-Machine; go figure! With AIT and Isocort ( & Armour), meltdowns are history for us. period. No. not right (from your post). High cortisol is one of the stages of adrenal stress... I forget which one. (after I finish this email I'll look for the link to the discussion of the ASI results...) Supplementing cortisol at the appropriate time of day, allows the feedback loop to respond in a healing way. High cortisol needs appropriate adrenal support, also. My strongly held personal belief is that kids who are having meltdowns are in school/other environments that do not fit their biological needs. IMHO, meltdowns are as definitive for adrenal stress as high cholesterol or antibodies are for thyroid. TRUST ME; if my kid can learn to swallow the Isocort pellets, anyone at all can. Honest. They are tiny, tiny, tiny! It helped me tremendously to talk on the phone with another treating mom. If you want to talk off-list or on the phone, just let me know, ok? If our kids needed additional oxygen for their brains to work we would never hesitate and try the vitamins that have oxygen in the name, first, because it's such a big step to give oxygen, right? If they need it, they need it. Same with adrenal support. Lemme tell you a line that a dear friend used on me trying to get me to dump behavior drugs in my kid. She said " every day that she is not medicated is a day of her life that you are stealing from her. " She has since seen the error of her thinking, btw...but I do think that every day that I found adrenal support and Armour a daunting prospect for a child I was - as it turns out - forestalling the healing of my child's mind and body...I really wish I had started her sooner and been braver with the earlier doses... We are on the right track with our kids, . Take courage. .... How much Isocort did you give your 11 y/o? My daughter has meltdowns as well, she is 9. Just diagnosed hypo and on 1 grain per day (I've recently split her to 30 mg. am and 30 mg. around 3:30, when school gets out). I suspect she may have adrenal issues too, but she hasn't been tested. If she is high though, I shouldn't add Isocort, right? I don't know how I woudl get it in her anyway, its so bitter. I'm trying to sneak Adrneal Support Plus vitamin into protein smoothies for her. Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 LOL my kiddo tried the burying the pills in the bed trick! LOL didn't work for long. Fortunately the kind of LD she has makes her unable to lie! LOLOLOL It felt like a big deal at the time, but she has been responsible for awhile, now. (I still trust but verify!) I hope you give this girl her own Armour, now!? .... My daughter would rather be sick. When I got her NutriMeds, she hid themin the couch and took my armour instead. That's how I figured out she was truly hypo, it was the best week of her life!Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 , I'm a bit late in reading these emails. I'm wondering how you determined that you needed to give Adrenal support to your DD? I have been trying to do the temp graph per Dr. Rind on my16 y.o. but between my sched and her work sched, it is next to impossible. She is on armour, 3 grains, but from other things, ie she has also been emotional w/meltdowns (this has decreased somewhat but it is still present), she has extreme carb craving (and sugar craving), acne still present, allegies (more seem to be developing)....I suspect she does need support. Thanks for listening. OH, I take HC, so does her dad and her oldest sis (middle sis most likely needs it, but is on her own and consulting a doc so I don't know what is happening presently). best,Adria the first day we gave her one Isocort. She is up to 4 Isocort AM and 4 Isocort after lunch. (3 grains/day/split ) In restrospect, I was a chicken and way too cautious with her doses. It really is a crying shame that we moms are soooooooooo afraid of administering the correct, healing, support when so many parents are willing to dump toxic amphetamine-based mood/behavior mod drugs, Prozac - and worse - into their kids. One is right for our kids and the other has the approval of the Medical-Money-Machine; go figure! With AIT and Isocort ( & Armour), meltdowns are history for us. period. No. not right (from your post). High cortisol is one of the stages of adrenal stress... I forget which one. (after I finish this email I'll look for the link to the discussion of the ASI results...) Supplementing cortisol at the appropriate time of day, allows the feedback loop to respond in a healing way. High cortisol needs appropriate adrenal support, also. My strongly held personal belief is that kids who are having meltdowns are in school/other environments that do not fit their biological needs. IMHO, meltdowns are as definitive for adrenal stress as high cholesterol or antibodies are for thyroid. TRUST ME; if my kid can learn to swallow the Isocort pellets, anyone at all can. Honest. They are tiny, tiny, tiny! It helped me tremendously to talk on the phone with another treating mom. If you want to talk off-list or on the phone, just let me know, ok? If our kids needed additional oxygen for their brains to work we would never hesitate and try the vitamins that have oxygen in the name, first, because it's such a big step to give oxygen, right? If they need it, they need it. Same with adrenal support. Lemme tell you a line that a dear friend used on me trying to get me to dump behavior drugs in my kid. She said " every day that she is not medicated is a day of her life that you are stealing from her." She has since seen the error of her thinking, btw...but I do think that every day that I found adrenal support and Armour a daunting prospect for a child I was - as it turns out - forestalling the healing of my child's mind and body...I really wish I had started her sooner and been braver with the earlier doses... We are on the right track with our kids, . Take courage. .... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 when she took the ASI test it was only $99.00 from Diagnos-Tech Lab. (She had blood labs for the rest, that first time.) The discussion that comes back with the ASI results is extremely insightul and useful. My DD was already at the 4th step of 7 steps of adrenal stress; the 7th is adrenal failure. That helped me get over arguing with myself about whether or not she really needed adrenal support. I also had that to back up my decision to treat her, should anyone want to push the point, ya know what I mean? These days you can drug your kid senseless with control meds but giving something that can really heal your kid can attract unwanted attention in certain circumstances, these days... My kid has great skin. She started the Armour just in time! Kerry can give you good proof of Armour clearing up complexions of teens, though. And I've met her three; I like each and every one of them, a lot - they are very nice people. Probably won't be long before the younger Armour generation wants to talk to folks their own ages to tell them how Armour works - for themselves! .... , I'm a bit late in reading these emails. I'm wondering how you determined that you needed to give Adrenal support to your DD? I have been trying to do the temp graph per Dr. Rind on my16 y.o. but between my sched and her work sched, it is next to impossible. She is on armour, 3 grains, but from other things, ie she has also been emotional w/meltdowns (this has decreased somewhat but it is still present), she has extreme carb craving (and sugar craving), acne still present, allegies (more seem to be developing)....I suspect she does need support. Thanks for listening. OH, I take HC, so does her dad and her oldest sis (middle sis most likely needs it, but is on her own and consulting a doc so I don't know what is happening presently). best, Adria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 It sure sounds like it, Adria. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: any good stories on areanl support???????? , I'm a bit late in reading these emails. I'm wondering how you determined that you needed to give Adrenal support to your DD? I have been trying to do the temp graph per Dr. Rind on my16 y.o. but between my sched and her work sched, it is next to impossible. She is on armour, 3 grains, but from other things, ie she has also been emotional w/meltdowns (this has decreased somewhat but it is still present), she has extreme carb craving (and sugar craving), acne still present, allegies (more seem to be developing)....I suspect she does need support. Thanks for listening. OH, I take HC, so does her dad and her oldest sis (middle sis most likely needs it, but is on her own and consulting a doc so I don't know what is happening presently). best,Adria the first day we gave her one Isocort. She is up to 4 Isocort AM and 4 Isocort after lunch. (3 grains/day/split ) In restrospect, I was a chicken and way too cautious with her doses. It really is a crying shame that we moms are soooooooooo afraid of administering the correct, healing, support when so many parents are willing to dump toxic amphetamine-based mood/behavior mod drugs, Prozac - and worse - into their kids. One is right for our kids and the other has the approval of the Medical-Money-Machine; go figure! With AIT and Isocort ( & Armour), meltdowns are history for us. period. No. not right (from your post). High cortisol is one of the stages of adrenal stress... I forget which one. (after I finish this email I'll look for the link to the discussion of the ASI results...) Supplementing cortisol at the appropriate time of day, allows the feedback loop to respond in a healing way. High cortisol needs appropriate adrenal support, also. My strongly held personal belief is that kids who are having meltdowns are in school/other environments that do not fit their biological needs. IMHO, meltdowns are as definitive for adrenal stress as high cholesterol or antibodies are for thyroid. TRUST ME; if my kid can learn to swallow the Isocort pellets, anyone at all can. Honest. They are tiny, tiny, tiny! It helped me tremendously to talk on the phone with another treating mom. If you want to talk off-list or on the phone, just let me know, ok? If our kids needed additional oxygen for their brains to work we would never hesitate and try the vitamins that have oxygen in the name, first, because it's such a big step to give oxygen, right? If they need it, they need it. Same with adrenal support. Lemme tell you a line that a dear friend used on me trying to get me to dump behavior drugs in my kid. She said " every day that she is not medicated is a day of her life that you are stealing from her." She has since seen the error of her thinking, btw...but I do think that every day that I found adrenal support and Armour a daunting prospect for a child I was - as it turns out - forestalling the healing of my child's mind and body...I really wish I had started her sooner and been braver with the earlier doses... We are on the right track with our kids, . Take courage. .... .. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 So you did the saliva test for your daughter? I have a canary club test here, or maybe I can get my ND to do the GSDL, since she doesn't need the sex and thyroid hormones since we already know her thyroid level. I shoudl do that now before school starts again..... Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.comCurly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for thepurpose of storing dead batteries.~ Re: any good stories on areanl support???????? when she took the ASI test it was only $99.00 from Diagnos-Tech Lab. (She had blood labs for the rest, that first time.) The discussion that comes back with the ASI results is extremely insightul and useful. My DD was already at the 4th step of 7 steps of adrenal stress; the 7th is adrenal failure. That helped me get over arguing with myself about whether or not she really needed adrenal support. I also had that to back up my decision to treat her, should anyone want to push the point, ya know what I mean? These days you can drug your kid senseless with control meds but giving something that can really heal your kid can attract unwanted attention in certain circumstances, these days... My kid has great skin. She started the Armour just in time! Kerry can give you good proof of Armour clearing up complexions of teens, though. And I've met her three; I like each and every one of them, a lot - they are very nice people. Probably won't be long before the younger Armour generation wants to talk to folks their own ages to tell them how Armour works - for themselves! .... , I'm a bit late in reading these emails. I'm wondering how you determined that you needed to give Adrenal support to your DD? I have been trying to do the temp graph per Dr. Rind on my16 y.o. but between my sched and her work sched, it is next to impossible. She is on armour, 3 grains, but from other things, ie she has also been emotional w/meltdowns (this has decreased somewhat but it is still present), she has extreme carb craving (and sugar craving), acne still present, allegies (more seem to be developing)....I suspect she does need support. Thanks for listening. OH, I take HC, so does her dad and her oldest sis (middle sis most likely needs it, but is on her own and consulting a doc so I don't know what is happening presently). best, Adria No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 yes, the ASI (adrenal stress index) is a 4 x in one day saliva cortisol test. Sounds like a good idea to get that done, asap. .... So you did the saliva test for your daughter? I have a canary club test here, or maybe I can get my ND to do the GSDL, since she doesn't need the sex and thyroid hormones since we already know her thyroid level. I shoudl do that now before school starts again..... Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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