Re: Re: Test results on celiac for me

[Guest guest]

Uhmm,

this has made my mind up, the Cambridge institute do celiac testing and I was thinking about getting it done, after your news Patty I definitely will.

I find the organic diet difficult to stick with so I am not looking forward to this BUT I am going to be tested.

Sue.

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy, I probably don't. I can eat bread still and not feel like my whole world has turned upside down, but it probably was contributing to my knee pain and other issues that have recently gotten worse ever since my root canals. It's just safer to go without. Based on the results of my malabsorption test, it looks like this isn't bad yet, but I have no doubt it would continue to get worse without proper attention to it. I was really glad to see that there was no evidence of gluten-induced autoimmune reaction. Kathy, have you been tested? Here is what the Lab webpage says: What is the numeric range of positive antigliadin antibody results?Our antibody tests range numerically from a positive value of 10 to as high as 350 Units. The average positive value is about 45 Units. The "units" are based on the amount of antibody detected in the assay which is

reflected by more color developing as the result of a color-generating chemical reaction. Thus, the more antibody present, the higher the units of positivity. However, the amount of antibody present is not a measure of clinical severity, but rather, the amount of antibody being produced by the plasma cells in the intestine in response to gluten at that site. A positive value of any degree means your immune system is reacting to dietary gluten in the way the immune system reacts to an infection. With an infection, this immune reaction ultimately kills and clears the infectious organism. But with gluten, the reaction continues as long as it is eaten. Thus, the only way to halt this immune reaction is to remove all gluten from the diet. This is true whether your positive test is 10 units, 350 units, or anything in between.Are the numeric values of antigliadin antibody a measure of severity?As mentioned above, the numeric value of antibody is not necessarily

a measure of severity of how your body is reacting to gluten, or the resultant damage of the reaction. This is because the main perpetrator of the immune response to gluten is not antibody but T lymphocytes (T cells) producing tissue-damaging chemicals called cytokines and chemokines. How much antibody is produced at the stimulus of T cells differs in different people. Furthermore, some people simply do not or cannot make alot of intestinal IgA antibody even though gluten may be stimulating a severe T cell-mediated immune response. Unlike antibody levels, the numeric value of malabsorption test results are an indicator of severity of intestinal damage (see below).If my antigliadin antibody levels are only mildly elevated, does that mean I can eat some gluten? This question is more "wishful thinking" resulting from the mind trying to turn a positive test into what might want to be called "low positive" or even the equivalent of negative. However from our

experience, a positive antigliadin antibody of any degree is like a positive pregnancy test. When a pregnancy test is positive, you are not a little pregnant, you are pregnant. The same is true for gluten sensitivity.https://www.enterolab.com/StaticPages/Faq_Result_Interpretation.htmmikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote: PattiI don't think you have full blown celiac disease or sprue. But you do probably have gluten sensitivity. I really do think there is a wide range of severity here. Some people seemingly can recover and eat gluten occasionally again without problem-- does now. But others can't have the smallest amount ever--even in things that they put on their body. Like eveything

else it runs the gamut from somewhat mild to severe and lifethreatening. Fortunately, there are many good products out there now. I just hate eating out though because there is some form of gluten in practically everything on the menu. Hugs, Kathy>> > I just received by email my test results from EnteroLab www.enterolab.com > regarding my gluten sensitivity. > > Results show I have celiac disease. Okay, new chapter in my life starts now.> Patty> > > A) Gluten Sensitivity Stool and Gene Panel Complete *Best test/best value> Fecal Antigliadin IgA 13.5 (Normal Range <10 Units)>

> Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 9 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)> > Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 120 Units (Normal Range <300 Units)> > Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody 8 Units (Normal Range <10 Units)> > HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201 > > HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303 > > Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,9)> > Interpretation of Fecal Antigliadin IgA: Intestinal antigliadin IgA antibody was elevated, indicating that you have active dietary gluten sensitivity. For optimal health, resolution of symptoms (if you have them), and prevention of small intestinal damage and malnutrition, osteoporosis, and damage to

other tissues (like nerves, brain, joints, muscles, thyroid, pancreas, other glands, skin, liver, spleen, among others), it is recommended that you follow a strict and permanent gluten free diet. As gluten sensitivity is a genetic syndrome, you may want to have your relatives screened as well.> > Interpretation of Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA: The level of intestinal IgA antibodies to the human enzyme tissue transglutaminase was below the upper limit of normal, and hence, there is no evidence of a gluten-induced autoimmune reaction.> > Interpretation of Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score: A fecal fat score less than 300 indicates there is no malabsorbed dietary fat in stool indicating that digestion and absorption of nutrients is currently normal.> > Interpretation of Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody: Levels of fecal IgA antibody to a food

antigen greater than or equal to 10 are indicative of an immune reaction, and hence immunologic "sensitivity" to that food. For any elevated fecal antibody level, it is recommended to remove that food from your diet. Values less than 10 indicate there currently is minimal or no reaction to that food and hence, no direct evidence of food sensitivity to that specific food. However, because 1 in 500 people cannot make IgA at all, and rarely, some people can still have clinically significant reactions to a food antigen despite the lack of a significant antibody reaction (because the reactions primarily involve T cells), if you have an immune syndrome or symptoms associated with food sensitivity, it is recommended that you try a strict removal of suspect foods from your diet for up to 12 months despite a negative test.> > Interpretation Of HLA-DQ Testing: HLA gene analysis reveals that you have one of

the main genes that predisposes to gluten sensitivity and celiac sprue, HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8. Each of your offspring has a 50% chance of receiving this gene from you, and at least one of your parents passed it to you. You also have a non-celiac gene predisposing to gluten sensitivity (DQ1 or DQ3 not subtype 8). Having one celiac gene and one gluten sensitive gene, means that each of your parents, and all of your children (if you have them) will possess at least one copy of a gluten sensitive gene. Having two copies also means there is an even stronger predisposition to gluten sensitivity than having one gene and the resultant immunologic gluten sensitivity or celiac disease may be more severe.> > > > __________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

Patty,

I was on antibiotics since last august and every night I would run a low grade fever. I think it is because our immune system is so messed up that we don't get well from antibiotics. It is scary to think but I have to believe. How could I have stayed so sick on them daily? I think whatever was in my implant was deadly. I will find out some day from Dr. Blias I guess time will tell me and there will be no mystery for me. I think this will be peace of mind for me.

Donna

[Guest guest]

My daughter eats sandwiches without the bread when she eats out and there

aren't any other choices. Pei Wei and PF Chang both have gluten free

menus.

Kenda

> Hi Sue,

> I think it is a good idea especially for you since you have experienced so

> many issues related to food allergies.

> Let me know what happens. I am dreading going on a gluten free diet. Maybe

> it won't be as bad as it sounds, but I have kids....and we eat out often when

> we are traveling (which is every weekend.)

> Patty

>

> gibbense@... wrote:

> Uhmm,

>

> this has made my mind up, the Cambridge institute do celiac testing and I

> was thinking about getting it done, after your news Patty I definitely will.

> I find the organic diet difficult to stick with so I am not looking forward

> to this BUT I am going to be tested.

>

> Sue.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I love Pei Wei and PF Chang! Too bad they are not on the highway we travel. : (Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: My daughter eats sandwiches without the bread when she eats out and therearen't any other choices. Pei Wei and PF Chang both have gluten freemenus. Kenda __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Not much to tell other than I got 2 root canals back to back in September of last year, and gradually started experiencing increasing pain in my right knee. It continued to get worse and nothing seemed to help it. I was stumped...why my right knee? I had not injured it, I had not suffered from this type of knee pain previously. But it became stiff and very painful if kept bent for a long period of time Standing up from a sitting position usually left me limping along until it got exercised enough to be mobile and painless. It was driving me crazy. I never had arthritis type problems before at all. I started more research on root canals because I had read questionable things about them before. I knew I never wanted them and yet I was in a situation where I didn't know what else to do. The more research I did, the more convinced I became that the root canals are something I didn't want in my

body. Especially after my autoimmune condition was a factor, and I knew I had to be vigilant. My holistic dentists' wife gave me a book called Root Canal Coverup by Meinig. It made alot of sense, and indicated that arthritis in the knees can be a consequence of the root canals (among many other things.). My dentist's wife also had experienced health issues related to her root canals and had hers removed. I got them out May 1st, following the recommendation of a Huggins referred holistic dentist. (See Dr. Hal Huggins website--easy to find on an internet search.) I experienced alot of relief from my knee pain. I'd say about 85% better. I'm not all the way better where that is concerned, but it's enough of an improvement to convince me that the root canals were not a good thing for me. Patty cindi22595 <cindi22595@...>

wrote: whoa now...here's something that interests me. i had a root canal almost two weeks ago. besides the infraorbital nerve trauma causing my lip and cheek to still tingle and be numb..my knees are killing me. i thought it was the Biaxin they gave me that aggravated my previous quinolone reaction. got all that?tell me about your knee pain and root canal. cindi>> Hi Kathy,> I probably don't. I can eat bread still and not feel like my whole world has turned upside down, but it probably was contributing to my knee pain and other issues that have recently gotten worse ever since my root canals. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

PF Chang is a nice restaurant that serves Chinese fare. Pei Wei is a fast food chain that is a PF Chang bistro, so they serve the same food, only faster. I love it. My favorite is their lettuce wraps! PattyLynda <coss@...> wrote: I have absolutely no idea what these restaurant chains are.LyndaAt 08:50 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote:>I love Pei Wei and PF Chang! Too bad they are not on the highway we >travel. : (>>Kenda Skaggs <skaggscountycable> wrote:>My daughter eats sandwiches without the bread when she eats out and there>aren't any other choices. Pei Wei and PF Chang both have gluten free>menus.>>Kenda>>__________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

Nationwide Chinese restaurants. Pei Wei is owned by PF Chang and is a

faster, cheaper alternative, although not fast food.

Kenda

> I have absolutely no idea what these restaurant chains are.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 08:50 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote:

>

>> I love Pei Wei and PF Chang! Too bad they are not on the highway we

>> travel. : (

>>

>> Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

>> My daughter eats sandwiches without the bread when she eats out and there

>> aren't any other choices. Pei Wei and PF Chang both have gluten free

>> menus.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>> __________________________________________________

>>

[Guest guest]

I was put on an antibiotic after I complained of continual pain in the root canal area. He gave me a strong antibiotic just to be on the safe side. It was so strong that it gave me a bladder infection. (great!). It was clindamycin, I believe. I wondered how in the world I could get a bladder infection while on an antibiotic. But others here wrote and said they had the same experience. Once I finished the clindamycin, I had to get on another diffrent (expensive!) antibiotic to deal with the bladder infection...levaquin. Pattycindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote: yes, i'm familiar with the controversy over root canals. it was something i carefully considered because of my own hashi's. much of the problem is if the root canal is actually done right...even holistic dentists have said this. also familiar with the book. it's a tough decision...root canal or lose a tooth? let me ask you - did they give you antibiotics aferwards? I've had a reaction to an antibiotic back in march (before i realized it was a tooth problem and thought it was sinus)...and it's the same type ADR as that one...yet not listed on this drug's sheet. so just wondering? I had Biaxin this time. i stopped it after 4 days and have vowed never to put another antibiotic in my body. they have caused so many problems for me. but interesting...i have stretched my knees here more at the computer recently...and have wondered if

that is the reason...but do feel the antibiotic is exaccerbating the problem. cindi>> Not much to tell other than I got 2 root canals back to back in September of last year, and gradually started experiencing increasing pain in my right knee. It continued to get worse and nothing seemed to help it. I was stumped...why my right knee? I had not injured it, I had not suffered from this type of knee pain previously. But it became stiff and very painful if kept bent for a long period of time Standing up from a sitting position usually left me limping along until it got exercised enough to be mobile and painless. It was driving me crazy. I never had arthritis type problems before at all. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Oooohhh, I love Chinese.

Lynda

At 09:21 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote:

>PF Chang is a nice restaurant that serves Chinese fare. Pei Wei is

>a fast food chain that is a PF Chang bistro, so they serve the same

>food, only faster.

>I love it. My favorite is their lettuce wraps!

>Patty

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>I have absolutely no idea what these restaurant chains are.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 08:50 PM 6/5/2006, you wrote:

>

> >I love Pei Wei and PF Chang! Too bad they are not on the highway we

> >travel. : (

> >

> >Kenda Skaggs

> <<mailto:skaggs%40countycable.com>skaggs@...> wrote:

> >My daughter eats sandwiches without the bread when she eats out and there

> >aren't any other choices. Pei Wei and PF Chang both have gluten free

> >menus.

> >

> >Kenda

> >

> >__________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Rarely?? ALL oral and vaginal antibiotics cause me a candidiasis problem.

It's simple, the antibiotic, whether it be oral or vaginal, wipes out the

good bacteria and the yeast flourishes. I'm not sure what type of doctor

you are but according to my GYN, it is VERY typical.

Kenda

> The antibiotic did not cause the bladder infection.

>

> Clindamycin (Cleocin) is used for patients who are allergic to Penicillin and

> is very effective for staph and strep infections. It's not typically the

> antibiotic of choice for an abscess in your gums. It's actually very useful in

> vaginal infections. If you got a bladder infection or an inflammation

> (cystitis), the bacteria in your bladder was likely a strain that is resistant

> to Cleocin. Rarely, Cleocin can cause a vulvovaginal Candidiasis and, if you

> have such and do not wipe properly, you can cause a bladder infection.

> Levaquin, however, can cause that, too. Levaquin is specific for infections

> such as those found in the bladder.

> Sherry

>

>

> Re: Re: Test results on celiac for me

>

>

>

> I was put on an antibiotic after I complained of continual pain in the root

> canal area. He gave me a strong antibiotic just to be on the safe side. It

> was so strong that it gave me a bladder infection. (great!). It was

> clindamycin, I believe.

>

> I wondered how in the world I could get a bladder infection while on an

> antibiotic. But others here wrote and said they had the same experience. Once

> I finished the clindamycin, I had to get on another diffrent (expensive!)

> antibiotic to deal with the bladder infection...levaquin.

> Patty

>

> cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote:

> yes, i'm familiar with the controversy over root canals. it was

> something i carefully considered because of my own hashi's. much

> of the problem is if the root canal is actually done right...even

> holistic dentists have said this. also familiar with the book. it's

> a tough decision...root canal or lose a tooth?

>

> let me ask you - did they give you antibiotics aferwards? I've had

> a reaction to an antibiotic back in march (before i realized it was

> a tooth problem and thought it was sinus)...and it's the same type

> ADR as that one...yet not listed on this drug's sheet. so just

> wondering? I had Biaxin this time. i stopped it after 4 days and

> have vowed never to put another antibiotic in my body. they have

> caused so many problems for me.

>

> but interesting...i have stretched my knees here more at the

> computer recently...and have wondered if that is the reason...but do

> feel the antibiotic is exaccerbating the problem.

> cindi

>

>

>>

>> Not much to tell other than I got 2 root canals back to back in

> September of last year, and gradually started experiencing

> increasing pain in my right knee. It continued to get worse and

> nothing seemed to help it. I was stumped...why my right knee? I had

> not injured it, I had not suffered from this type of knee pain

> previously. But it became stiff and very painful if kept bent for a

> long period of time Standing up from a sitting position usually

> left me limping along until it got exercised enough to be mobile and

> painless. It was driving me crazy. I never had arthritis type

> problems before at all.

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy,

Thank you. I am feeling strong and well. The house isn't quite finished

yet but will be soon. The cleaning girls will be here again today because

it so dusty from all of the wood floor work. They should start moving

things back in today. Hopefully by the end of the week we'll be moved back

in. Living in the trailers wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

It was kind of nice, actually. There isn't much to clean in a trailer!

Kenda

> Hi Kenda

> It is good to see you back. We missed you. HOw is everything

> going? Are you feeling better?

> Hugs,

> Kathy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>>>

>>> I just received by email my test results from EnteroLab

> www.enterolab.com

>>> regarding my gluten sensitivity.

>>>

>>> Results show I have celiac disease. Okay, new chapter in my

> life starts

>>> now.

>>> Patty

>>>

>>>

>>> A) Gluten Sensitivity Stool and Gene Panel Complete *Best

> test/best value

>>> Fecal Antigliadin IgA 13.5 (Normal Range <10 Units)

>>>

>>> Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 9 Units (Normal Range

> <10 Units)

>>>

>>> Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 120 Units (Normal

> Range <300

>>> Units)

>>>

>>> Fecal anti-casein (cow¹s milk) IgA antibody 8 Units (Normal

> Range <10

>>> Units)

>>>

>>> HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201

>>>

>>> HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303

>>>

>>> Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,9)

>>>

>>> Interpretation of Fecal Antigliadin IgA: Intestinal antigliadin

> IgA antibody

>>> was elevated, indicating that you have active dietary gluten

> sensitivity. For

>>> optimal health, resolution of symptoms (if you have them), and

> prevention of

>>> small intestinal damage and malnutrition, osteoporosis, and

> damage to other

>>> tissues (like nerves, brain, joints, muscles, thyroid, pancreas,

> other glands,

>>> skin, liver, spleen, among others), it is recommended that you

> follow a strict

>>> and permanent gluten free diet. As gluten sensitivity is a

> genetic syndrome,

>>> you may want to have your relatives screened as well.

>>>

>>> Interpretation of Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA: The

> level of

>>> intestinal IgA antibodies to the human enzyme tissue

> transglutaminase was

>>> below the upper limit of normal, and hence, there is no evidence

> of a

>>> gluten-induced autoimmune reaction.

>>>

>>> Interpretation of Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score: A

> fecal fat score

>>> less than 300 indicates there is no malabsorbed dietary fat in

> stool

>>> indicating that digestion and absorption of nutrients is

> currently normal.

>>>

>>> Interpretation of Fecal anti-casein (cow¹s milk) IgA antibody:

> Levels of

>>> fecal IgA antibody to a food antigen greater than or equal to 10

> are

>>> indicative of an immune reaction, and hence immunologic

> ³sensitivity² to that

>>> food. For any elevated fecal antibody level, it is recommended

> to remove that

>>> food from your diet. Values less than 10 indicate there

> currently is minimal

>>> or no reaction to that food and hence, no direct evidence of

> food sensitivity

>>> to that specific food. However, because 1 in 500 people cannot

> make IgA at

>>> all, and rarely, some people can still have clinically

> significant reactions

>>> to a food antigen despite the lack of a significant antibody

> reaction (because

>>> the reactions primarily involve T cells), if you have an immune

> syndrome or

>>> symptoms associated with food sensitivity, it is recommended

> that you try a

>>> strict removal of suspect foods from your diet for up to 12

> months despite a

>>> negative test.

>>>

>>> Interpretation Of HLA-DQ Testing: HLA gene analysis reveals

> that you have one

>>> of the main genes that predisposes to gluten sensitivity and

> celiac sprue,

>>> HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8. Each of your offspring has a 50% chance of

> receiving this

>>> gene from you, and at least one of your parents passed it to

> you. You also

>>> have a non-celiac gene predisposing to gluten sensitivity (DQ1

> or DQ3 not

>>> subtype 8). Having one celiac gene and one gluten sensitive

> gene, means that

>>> each of your parents, and all of your children (if you have

> them) will possess

>>> at least one copy of a gluten sensitive gene. Having two copies

> also means

>>> there is an even stronger predisposition to gluten sensitivity

> than having one

>>> gene and the resultant immunologic gluten sensitivity or celiac

> disease may be

>>> more severe.

>>>

>>>

>>> __________________________________________________

>>>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

I'd be very careful about cheating on a Celiac diet.

My friend believes that the longer you stay on the

diet, the lower your threshold for gluten becomes.

Her husband has had to call the paramedics for her at

least two times because she indadvertently ate

something with gluten in it.

His first question when they came to visit was " How

long does it take to get an ambulance here? "

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info. I wonder why my knee pain didn't disappear until after I removed the root canals? cindi22595 <cindi22595@...> wrote: Ok, here's a website devoted to the quinolones:http://www.fqresearch.org/index.htmThese drugs are so toxic that I can't believe how much they are given out...they really should be used as a last resort...when the particular bacteria has been identified. They are known for ligament/tendon pain. cindi---

In , "cindi22595" <cindi22595@...> wrote:>> Levaquin is the quinolone that caused my intial knee/leg...total > joint pain. The quionolones are very toxic..a very strong > antibiotic that can even cross the CNS barrier. Google "quinolone > toxicity" or tendon rupture + quinolone, etc...for more info. there > are several supports groups...and a FQ org (floroquinolone). I > would think it was the levaquin that caused the knee problem given > that is one of the most common ADRs. __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Kenda,

I'm sooooooo happy for you that you're feeling so much

better! . . . I had a feeling that you would do much

better once you got out of your house!

I just hope that Lea begins feeling better now that

she's away from her old house too!

What kind of cleanup have/are you doing of your

personal possessions? . . . Did you take many things

with you to the trailers?

A silicone sister had horrible mold problems, not just

once, but three times. . . Once was after she took

some things from her old house. The type of mold she

had was the worst though! She had to literally leave

everything behind and take only her drivers liscense

in a baggie - go to a hotel room, shed everything

again before moving into new housing.

People need to realise that mold problems are major.

If one spots mold, it must be addressed immediately!

Homes should be checked regularly for the presense of

mold.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

It varies so much with different people. The longer my daughter stays on

the diet, the more she can cheat and get away with it. Of course if she

cheats too much, she pays the price. On our cruises, she eats some sort of

wheat every day without symptoms.

Kenda

> Kathy,

>

> I'd be very careful about cheating on a Celiac diet.

>

> My friend believes that the longer you stay on the

> diet, the lower your threshold for gluten becomes.

>

> Her husband has had to call the paramedics for her at

> least two times because she indadvertently ate

> something with gluten in it.

>

> His first question when they came to visit was " How

> long does it take to get an ambulance here? "

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene!

I feel the best I have in years! Getting out was a very good thing for me.

I had no idea Lea left her home. Were they able to sell and it relocate?

The restoration company is cleaning everything before it makes its way back

into the house. We brought very little into the trailers, just clothing and

necessities. The mold we had in the house was one of the safer varieties,

if a safe variety exists! I'm in no hurry to get back into the house. The

restoration company can take their time and do it right.

Mold is bad news and grows quickly. It definitely needs to be taken care

of.

Kenda

> Kenda,

>

> I'm sooooooo happy for you that you're feeling so much

> better! . . . I had a feeling that you would do much

> better once you got out of your house!

>

> I just hope that Lea begins feeling better now that

> she's away from her old house too!

>

> What kind of cleanup have/are you doing of your

> personal possessions? . . . Did you take many things

> with you to the trailers?

>

> A silicone sister had horrible mold problems, not just

> once, but three times. . . Once was after she took

> some things from her old house. The type of mold she

> had was the worst though! She had to literally leave

> everything behind and take only her drivers liscense

> in a baggie - go to a hotel room, shed everything

> again before moving into new housing.

>

> People need to realise that mold problems are major.

> If one spots mold, it must be addressed immediately!

> Homes should be checked regularly for the presense of

> mold.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathy, you are a doll. It looks like we are walking the same path on this one. Pattymikat828 <mikat828@...> wrote: Yes Patty,I had a saliva test done almost two years ago. My antibodies were out of the normal range. I have been on a gluten free diet (mostly) for about one and half years. The only difference I could detect was that I got less headaches. Everytime I cheat (and it isn't that often) I tend to get a headache the next day. I don't have full blown celiac disease. It isn't that hard

to follow a gluten free diet if you stick with the basics--meat, fish, eggs, fruit, veggies. But it is hard if you eat things with sauces, eat in restaurants, eat baked goods, etc. I have stopped asking in restaurants because they often don't know. I just order a salad. But most salad dressings have gluten too. I picked up a menu showing various substances that could be in foods in Culvers the other day and every salad dressing they carried had gluten. I really hate missing the baked goods that I loved. I cheated bigtime with my daughter's graduation and over the course of four days mangaged to have one of everything I was missing: pizza at my favorite restarant, Italian beef at my favorite restaruant, chocolate chip cookies, etc. Then I had a headache three out of the next four days and wasn't feeling very good. Of course, half the town has a headache because of the humid weather. My thought is that I will

continue to try to heal, I will eat mainly a gluten free diet, and hopefully occasionally cheat. I will say that celiac can kill you. A friend of mine lost her mother at the age of 33 due to undianosed and untreated celiac. And some people do not improve despite the diet though that is rare. Certainly we should all be tested. It is too important not to. Good luckKathy> >> > > > I just received by email my test results from EnteroLab > www.enterolab.com > > regarding my gluten sensitivity. > > > > Results show I have celiac disease. Okay, new chapter in my > life starts now.> > Patty> > > > > > A) Gluten Sensitivity Stool and Gene Panel Complete *Best > test/best value> > Fecal Antigliadin IgA 13.5 (Normal Range <10 Units)> > > > Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA 9 Units (Normal Range > <10 Units)> > > > Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score 120 Units (Normal > Range <300 Units)> > > > Fecal

anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody 8 Units (Normal > Range <10 Units)> > > > HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 1 0201 > > > > HLA-DQB1 Molecular analysis, Allele 2 0303 > > > > Serologic equivalent: HLA-DQ 2,3 (Subtype 2,9)> > > > Interpretation of Fecal Antigliadin IgA: Intestinal antigliadin > IgA antibody was elevated, indicating that you have active dietary > gluten sensitivity. For optimal health, resolution of symptoms (if > you have them), and prevention of small intestinal damage and > malnutrition, osteoporosis, and damage to other tissues (like > nerves, brain, joints, muscles, thyroid, pancreas, other glands, > skin, liver, spleen, among others), it is recommended that you > follow a strict and permanent gluten free diet. As gluten > sensitivity is a genetic syndrome, you may want to have your > relatives

screened as well.> > > > Interpretation of Fecal Antitissue Transglutaminase IgA: The > level of intestinal IgA antibodies to the human enzyme tissue > transglutaminase was below the upper limit of normal, and hence, > there is no evidence of a gluten-induced autoimmune reaction.> > > > Interpretation of Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score: A > fecal fat score less than 300 indicates there is no malabsorbed > dietary fat in stool indicating that digestion and absorption of > nutrients is currently normal.> > > > Interpretation of Fecal anti-casein (cow's milk) IgA antibody: > Levels of fecal IgA antibody to a food antigen greater than or equal > to 10 are indicative of an immune reaction, and hence > immunologic "sensitivity" to that food. For any elevated fecal > antibody level, it is recommended to remove that food from your >

diet. Values less than 10 indicate there currently is minimal or no > reaction to that food and hence, no direct evidence of food > sensitivity to that specific food. However, because 1 in 500 people > cannot make IgA at all, and rarely, some people can still have > clinically significant reactions to a food antigen despite the lack > of a significant antibody reaction (because the reactions primarily > involve T cells), if you have an immune syndrome or symptoms > associated with food sensitivity, it is recommended that you try a > strict removal of suspect foods from your diet for up to 12 months > despite a negative test.> > > > Interpretation Of HLA-DQ Testing: HLA gene analysis reveals that > you have one of the main genes that predisposes to gluten > sensitivity and celiac sprue, HLA-DQ2 or HLA-DQ8. Each of your > offspring has a 50% chance of

receiving this gene from you, and at > least one of your parents passed it to you. You also have a non-> celiac gene predisposing to gluten sensitivity (DQ1 or DQ3 not > subtype 8). Having one celiac gene and one gluten sensitive gene, > means that each of your parents, and all of your children (if you > have them) will possess at least one copy of a gluten sensitive > gene. Having two copies also means there is an even stronger > predisposition to gluten sensitivity than having one gene and the > resultant immunologic gluten sensitivity or celiac disease may be > more severe.> > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Lynda, I think you can be tested for bio-compatibility for denture materials. It is called the Clifford test. http://www.ccrlab.com/ I will be taking that to determine the appropriate materials for my partial that I will need to get now that my back molars are gone on the left side. I hate being in this position. I would have rather kept my teeth! But, oh well. Life goes on. I'll get the partial and hope that I won't lose any more teeth! PattyLynda <coss@...> wrote: I do not trust root canals. I have had a number of them (inherited bad teeth) and am losing them one by one.My options soon will be dentures or dental implants.Dentures have big problems as the materials they are made of can also be toxic. Dental implants are imbedded and to some, titanium can be a problem.LOL, what will I do??????LyndaAt 09:34 AM 6/6/2006, you wrote:>It's possible, but the drug was given way back in October, 7 months >before I finally got the root canals removed. My knee pain didn't >seem to improve much. It's hard to think that after 7 months, the >effects of the drug wouldn't be worn off. In either case, I really >detest taking antibiotics...I hope I never have another bladder >infection that needs drugs. I try to head it off with garlic, >cranberry juice and lots of

water.>Patty>>cindi22595 <cindi22595 > wrote:>it would be impossible to really know if it was the root canal>removal that did it..or whether the quinolone reaction had died>down.>My worst pain was about 3 weeks out from the Levaquin...and over the>next 3 months...gradually subsided.>>don't get me wrong...root canals not done properly are bad bad>things...and i keep wondering whether i should have had one at all.>but if you had Levaquin, knee pain could also have been damage from>the quinolone presenting.>>i'll never take another quinolone drug. i've heard so many sad>stories of lives destroyed.>cindi>>> > >> > > Levaquin is the quinolone that caused my intial knee/leg...total> > > joint pain. The quionolones are very toxic..a very strong> > > antibiotic that can even cross the CNS barrier.>Google "quinolone> > > toxicity" or tendon rupture + quinolone, etc...for more info.> > there> > > are several supports groups...and a FQ org (floroquinolone). I> > > would think it was the levaquin that caused the knee problem>given> > > that is one of the most common ADRs.> >> >> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________> >

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Broad-spectrum antiobiotics such as penicillin, amoxicillin, erythromycin and tetracycline can commonly cause a vaginal yeast infection since they kill or decrease the population of normal flora that normally exist in the vagina. They treat bacterial infection by killing and inhibiting the growtrh of bacteria. The reason that antibiotics increase your susceptibility to yeast infection is because they change the pH in your vagina which is usually slightly acidic. With less lactobacillus bacteria that are normally present within the vagina, yeast cells can grow rampantly. This does not mean that antibiotics should be avoided in the presence of bacterial infections but should be accompanied by a prescription to avoid the yeast or even an OTC suppository preparation.

Sherry

Re: Re: Test results on celiac for me> >> >> >> > I was put on an antibiotic after I complained of continual pain in the root> > canal area. He gave me a strong antibiotic just to be on the safe side. It> > was so strong that it gave me a bladder infection. (great!). It was> > clindamycin, I believe.> >> > I wondered how in the world I could get a bladder infection while on an> > antibiotic. But others here wrote and said they had the same > experience. Once> > I finished the clindamycin, I had to get on another diffrent (expensive!)> > antibiotic to deal with the bladder infection...levaquin.> > Patty> >> > cindi22595 <<mailto:cindi22595%40>cindi22595 > wrote:> > yes, i'm familiar with the controversy over root canals. it was> > something i carefully considered because of my own hashi's. much> > of the problem is if the root canal is actually done right...even> > holistic dentists have said this. also familiar with the book. it's> > a tough decision...root canal or lose a tooth?> >> > let me ask you - did they give you antibiotics aferwards? I've had> > a reaction to an antibiotic back in march (before i realized it was> > a tooth problem and thought it was sinus)...and it's the same type> > ADR as that one...yet not listed on this drug's sheet. so just> > wondering? I had Biaxin this time. i stopped it after 4 days and> > have vowed never to put another antibiotic in my body. they have> > caused so many problems for me.> >> > but interesting...i have stretched my knees here more at the> > computer recently...and have wondered if that is the reason...but do> > feel the antibiotic is exaccerbating the problem.> > cindi> >> > > >>> >> Not much to tell other than I got 2 root canals back to back in> > September of last year, and gradually started experiencing> > increasing pain in my right knee. It continued to get worse and> > nothing seemed to help it. I was stumped...why my right knee? I had> > not injured it, I had not suffered from this type of knee pain> > previously. But it became stiff and very painful if kept bent for a> > long period of time Standing up from a sitting position usually> > left me limping along until it got exercised enough to be mobile and> > painless. It was driving me crazy. I never had arthritis type> > problems before at all.> >> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________> >

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This is the difference between an MD and a ND's perspective. I avoid

antibiotics whenever possible, taking natural alternatives instead. There

are herbal products that are effective at killing bacterial infections. The

key to beating a bacterial infection with herbs is to catch the infection

early on. Most ND's will advise a patient to use an herbal product rather

than an antibiotic whenever possible.

Kenda

> Broad-spectrum antiobiotics such as penicillin, amoxicillin, erythromycin and

> tetracycline can commonly cause a vaginal yeast infection since they kill or

> decrease the population of normal flora that normally exist in the vagina.

> They treat bacterial infection by killing and inhibiting the growtrh of

> bacteria. The reason that antibiotics increase your susceptibility to yeast

> infection is because they change the pH in your vagina which is usually

> slightly acidic. With less lactobacillus bacteria that are normally present

> within the vagina, yeast cells can grow rampantly. This does not mean that

> antibiotics should be avoided in the presence of bacterial infections but

> should be accompanied by a prescription to avoid the yeast or even an OTC

> suppository preparation.

> Sherry

>

>

>

>

> Re: Re: Test results on celiac for me

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> I was put on an antibiotic after I complained of continual pain in the root

>>> canal area. He gave me a strong antibiotic just to be on the safe side. It

>>> was so strong that it gave me a bladder infection. (great!). It was

>>> clindamycin, I believe.

>>>

>>> I wondered how in the world I could get a bladder infection while on an

>>> antibiotic. But others here wrote and said they had the same

>> experience. Once

>>> I finished the clindamycin, I had to get on another diffrent (expensive!)

>>> antibiotic to deal with the bladder infection...levaquin.

>>> Patty

>>>

>>> cindi22595 <<mailto:cindi22595%40>cindi22595@...> wrote:

>>> yes, i'm familiar with the controversy over root canals. it was

>>> something i carefully considered because of my own hashi's. much

>>> of the problem is if the root canal is actually done right...even

>>> holistic dentists have said this. also familiar with the book. it's

>>> a tough decision...root canal or lose a tooth?

>>>

>>> let me ask you - did they give you antibiotics aferwards? I've had

>>> a reaction to an antibiotic back in march (before i realized it was

>>> a tooth problem and thought it was sinus)...and it's the same type

>>> ADR as that one...yet not listed on this drug's sheet. so just

>>> wondering? I had Biaxin this time. i stopped it after 4 days and

>>> have vowed never to put another antibiotic in my body. they have

>>> caused so many problems for me.

>>>

>>> but interesting...i have stretched my knees here more at the

>>> computer recently...and have wondered if that is the reason...but do

>>> feel the antibiotic is exaccerbating the problem.

>>> cindi

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Not much to tell other than I got 2 root canals back to back in

>>> September of last year, and gradually started experiencing

>>> increasing pain in my right knee. It continued to get worse and

>>> nothing seemed to help it. I was stumped...why my right knee? I had

>>> not injured it, I had not suffered from this type of knee pain

>>> previously. But it became stiff and very painful if kept bent for a

>>> long period of time Standing up from a sitting position usually

>>> left me limping along until it got exercised enough to be mobile and

>>> painless. It was driving me crazy. I never had arthritis type

>>> problems before at all.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> __________________________________________________

>>>

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Hi Kathy,

I stopped taking the liver cleanse stuff just prior to moving out of the

house. I will likely start taking it again after we get back from our

cruise. We'll move back into the house tomorrow but I don't want to start

taking the cleanse for a week and stop. On our cruise I'd like to take as

few supplements as possible.

The cleanse must have worked because I felt crappy when I first started

taking it and much better as time went on. I had to gradually work up to

full strength. It caused migraines in the beginning. It will be

interesting to see how I feel when I start taking it again. I think I'll

try full strength right off, just to see if I can tolerate it.

I have some Chinese Bitters but haven't taken it. I ordered it along with

another supplement, something coin grass, maybe? I ordered them after my

pancreatitis attack a couple of years ago but never took them. The research

I found on them was very promising.

Kenda

>

> Kenda

> It is good to hear that you are feeling so well. Are you still

> taking the liver cleanse stuff? How do you think it worked for

> you? How about Dr. Leu? Is he finished? Have you heard of taking

> Chinese Bitters? I have heard alot of good about it for helping

> with liver detox.

> Hugs Kathy

>

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>> Hi Rogene!

>>

>> I feel the best I have in years! Getting out was a very good

> thing for me.

>>

>> I had no idea Lea left her home. Were they able to sell and it

> relocate?

>>

>> The restoration company is cleaning everything before it makes its

> way back

>> into the house. We brought very little into the trailers, just

> clothing and

>> necessities. The mold we had in the house was one of the safer

> varieties,

>> if a safe variety exists! I'm in no hurry to get back into the

> house. The

>> restoration company can take their time and do it right.

>>

>> Mold is bad news and grows quickly. It definitely needs to be

> taken care

>> of.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>

>>> Kenda,

>>>

>>> I'm sooooooo happy for you that you're feeling so much

>>> better! . . . I had a feeling that you would do much

>>> better once you got out of your house!

>>>

>>> I just hope that Lea begins feeling better now that

>>> she's away from her old house too!

>>>

>>> What kind of cleanup have/are you doing of your

>>> personal possessions? . . . Did you take many things

>>> with you to the trailers?

>>>

>>> A silicone sister had horrible mold problems, not just

>>> once, but three times. . . Once was after she took

>>> some things from her old house. The type of mold she

>>> had was the worst though! She had to literally leave

>>> everything behind and take only her drivers liscense

>>> in a baggie - go to a hotel room, shed everything

>>> again before moving into new housing.

>>>

>>> People need to realise that mold problems are major.

>>> If one spots mold, it must be addressed immediately!

>>> Homes should be checked regularly for the presense of

>>> mold.

>>>

>>> Hugs,

>>>

>>> Rogene

>>>

>>>

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