Guest guest Posted May 30, 2000 Report Share Posted May 30, 2000 I actually sent an email a couple of weeks ago to Babycenter and have not received a reply. I attached a couple of online articles. I think it would be great if others sent something in. > Im not sure if this has been mentioned before....so if it has, I > apologize. You know the online sites Babycenter, Parents, Pampers etc. > What if we emailed them to see if they would consider putting something > about plagio. on their site. Im sure there are tons of people who visit > those sites. Tell me what u think:-) > Dawn T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2000 Report Share Posted June 1, 2000 In reference to sending e- mails/ messages : I actually found this group because of Babycenter.com. I check the posts in their Multiples community every day and came across another mother 's post regarding torticollis/ cranio with the e-group link and that led me here. Best thing I ever did ! I think sending them info would be terrific ! -- In Plagiocephalyegroups, fozzie@e... wrote: > > I actually sent an email a couple of weeks ago to Babycenter and have > not received a reply. I attached a couple of online articles. > > I think it would be great if others sent something in. > > > > > > Im not sure if this has been mentioned before....so if it has, I > > apologize. You know the online sites Babycenter, Parents, Pampers > etc. > > What if we emailed them to see if they would consider putting > something > > about plagio. on their site. Im sure there are tons of people who > visit > > those sites. Tell me what u think:-) > > Dawn T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 >>In considering the claims made on this forum, the one that I understand to be most prevalent is that each of us (or perhaps 80 percent of the population) has cholesterol stones in our livers.<< I don't believe this. (Just my opinion.) A cholangiogram showed both my liver and bile ducts to be 100% stone-free. I believe a person could have a few stones in the liver if there was a blockage someplace else, but I still can't buy the hundreds and thousands of sotnes theory. Again, just my opinion, not trying to offend anyone who believes otherwise. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Yes, the medical community is aware of stones in the liver. I never said I didn't believe they formed there, only that they formed when there was some other form of blockage. " Definitive treatment should aim for complete elimination of bile stasis and removal of all stones. " This was from one of the links, which I glanced at. Bile stasis, or non-flowing bile, is caused by some type of blockage. Stagnant bile can form stones. Another one I glanced at was talking about tumors being the cause of blockage. I just don't believe that stones form in the liver in a system where everything is flowing as it should. A stone lodged in the bile duct could lead to stones forming in the liver. If everyone has stones in their liver, why didn't I have any? Debra _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2002 Report Share Posted February 20, 2002 Hi, If you'll look at my previous post, I was responding to Ira's question about stones in the liver, not specifically to what you posted. If you'll read the articles carefully, you'll see that the opinion is that stones are formed in the liver, for whatever reason. I was not trying to state otherwise. Adrienne --- D B <fairyflight@...> wrote: > > Yes, the medical community is aware of stones in the liver. I never > said I > didn't believe they formed there, only that they formed when there > was some > other form of blockage. > > " Definitive treatment should aim for complete elimination of bile > stasis and > removal of all stones. " > > This was from one of the links, which I glanced at. Bile stasis, or > non-flowing bile, is caused by some type of blockage. Stagnant bile > can > form stones. > > Another one I glanced at was talking about tumors being the cause of > blockage. I just don't believe that stones form in the liver in a > system > where everything is flowing as it should. A stone lodged in the bile > duct > could lead to stones forming in the liver. If everyone has stones in > their > liver, why didn't I have any? > > Debra > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 >>An ERCP does not go into the liver and hence could not identify any stones that might be there. Thus, the jury is till out.<< Ira, A cholangiogram is not the same as an ERCP. It is a process wherein dye is injected into the bile duct, and into the liver. I was given a copy of the report. Other than my gallbladder, my system was stone-free. In case you haven't heard me say it before, one of the main reasons I stay here is to tell anyone who does end up having surgery to please inquire about a cholangiogram. Otherwise, one could go through surgery and still be left with stones in the bile duct, which will leave them with continuing pain and problems. Not all surgeons routinely do these, so it is important to ask. In my opinion, if a surgeon won't do this, it is time to look for another surgeon. If there are stones in the system, then an ERCP can be done the next day, before you go home. My surgeon said that an ERCP was not always necessary, that there was sometimes a way they could be removed during surgery. I was lucky, not smart. I was like a cat caught in the headlights, and didn't do a lot of research on surgeons in the area. It wasn't until after surgery that I found out how highly this doctor was thought of, both personally and professionally. I was not thrilled with the idea of having a cholangiogram, because I was terrified of anesthesia, and this would prolong the event by about 45 minutes. He told me that chances were good that I did not have stones in the bile duct, based on my liver enzyme levels, but that the week before he had had someone very similar in, who did have stones in her duct. He told me that he would not perform surgery without a cholangiogram, and did not thimk to highly of surgeons who would, because he would not put someone through surgery and then send them home having the same suffering they had come in with. It was nice going in for my post-op and seeing the report. We talked about stones in the liver, and he drew me a diagram and explained how and when they would form. He assured me that I was, and would remain, stone-free. Fifteen months later I have no complaints. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Yes, a cholangiogram x-rays the liver as well. Checks for intrahepetic (sp?) stones. It almost seems as if people don't want to believe that I only had stones in my gallbladder. I find this hard to understand. Debra _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Hi Everyone! What is a cholangiogram? Can anyone tell me? Thanks, " Ira L. son " <laser@...> wrote: Debra sent the following text in Digest Number 987: >My cholangiogram showed my liver to be stone-free. I have no >problems, and >have a different opinion about it anyway. Debra, Are you sure you are referring to a cholangiogram? As far as I know, they don't go into the liver and hence can't show anything that is in there. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Some palindromes: " A man, a plan, a canal: Panama. " " Stressed? No tips? Spit on desserts! " T. Eliot, top bard, notes putrid tang emanating, is sad. I'd assign it a name: gnat dirt upset on drab pot-toilet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ira L. son <laser@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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