Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Re: OMG - na?

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

Thank God....

I'd pick her up when they were done...

But I'd let them put a very big scare into her too...

A 14 year old doesn't need to be around the element at a juvy

Just my 2 cents

Ron

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am so glad to hear she's been found, safe and sound.

I know this will sound harsh, but . . . take it from a former 14-year-old

runaway who lived on the streets until I turned 16 . . . the longer you let

her sit in processing . . . the stronger your message of " intolerance "

towards this type of behavior will be.

I ran away constantly as a teen. It wasn't until I had to spend the night

with the real ruffians in a kiddie jail that I straightened up.

BJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank GOD she was found, safely.

Where on earth did she spend the night?

As for what to do, I have never been on your side of the fence, although I

have run away from home before. What I think I would do is run to her, hug

her, kiss her, and slobber all over her.... tell her I love her, and then

I'd kill her.

The one time I ran away from home, my mother didn't look for me. I was away

for three days, she never once sent the cops out for me, and as far as I was

concerned, wasn't even panicked. I had skipped school to run away with the

car, and went to a friend's house. Three days passed, I was getting mighty

sick of living with my friend by then, and was pissed as all hell at my

cold, evil mother. I knew she was evil, she was the devil herself, I

thought.

I came home, stormed in through the door and told her she was the only

mother on earth who would not look for her daughter for three days, and that

I hate her. She quietly asked me why I had come home, and why I hadn't just

lived at the Parks' house if I hated her so much?

Turns out that damn Mrs. Park called minutes after I had arrived and ruined

all of my plans. I had asked her specifically not to do so, and she had

told me even more specifically that she would not... and here she

backstabbed me.

Ugh. LOL Never did run away from home again. I don't remember what I left

for, but whatever it was, it didn't go my way anyhow.

Grace

Re: OMG - na?

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2001 4:42:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> vtwelch@... writes:

>

>

> > Do they understand about histrionics and melodrama? Do they know the

> > martyrdom that is a fourteen year old girl? Should I allow them to

take

> > her to juvie or should I insist that she be brought right home so I

can

> > deal with her myself?

> >

> > Assuming she is doing this on purpose and they find her and bring her

> > home.... how does one greet their child who purposely ran away and hid

for

> > over 24 hours (so far)?

> >

> > That is all I have right now.

> >

> > Love to all,

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Oh ....

> My heart goes out to you...

> Ron

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you all so much for your good thoughts and support.

na was found, safe and sound, hanging out at the mall with the boy who was

also missing. The cops picked her up.

I had received a call from a boy who said he saw na near the mall with

Cody. When I said this out loud, started running out of the house. I

called Cody's parents and the school officer. Then a girl called back and said

she was with the boy who saw na and she gave me more details. I called

Cody's mom and told her the details and her husband called the school officer

and then, while I was on the phone, they reached the area in question and it was

surrounded by police cars and the police managed to close in and capture both

kids.

Of course doesn't have a cell phone and I had no way of telling him what

was going on. I also had no way of telling him where the kids were being taken

or where to pick them up. By the time I finally got in touch with him they had

already taken na down to the youth center for processing.

When should we go pick her up? Now? tomorrow? a few hours from now?

is home now. I'll give more details later.

Thank you all so much for being there for me.

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

In a message dated 11/2/2001 4:42:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vtwelch@... writes:

> Do they understand about histrionics and melodrama? Do they know the

> martyrdom that is a fourteen year old girl? Should I allow them to take

> her to juvie or should I insist that she be brought right home so I can

> deal with her myself?

>

> Assuming she is doing this on purpose and they find her and bring her

> home.... how does one greet their child who purposely ran away and hid for

> over 24 hours (so far)?

>

> That is all I have right now.

>

> Love to all,

>

>

>

>

Oh ....

My heart goes out to you...

Ron

Link to comment
Share on other sites

My hard-line self says pick her up tomorrow. But I couldn't do that.

I would like to think that I'd let her cool her heels at the authorities for a

few hours before picking her up. If I were in your situation, that's what I

would most want to do.

But in the end, I'd probably rush down there immediately, carried by waves of

relief.

Let us know what you decided and how it went!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:

I came tagging in on the happy ending. Thank goodness she was found! I

can't imagine how terrified you must have been (I ran away once with no more

excuse than it seemed like a fun thing to do; now that I am a parent I think

I should have been strangled...)

As for the cop's comments, does he have children? Specifically girls?

Salli

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

I am so relieved. I can only imagine how good it feels to know

that she is safe and sound. I hope you and your husband figure out a

plan as to when to pick her up. Good luck:)

Jacquie H

> Thank you all so much for your good thoughts and support.

>

> na was found, safe and sound, hanging out at the mall with the

boy who was also missing. The cops picked her up.

>

> I had received a call from a boy who said he saw na near the

mall with Cody. When I said this out loud, started running out

of the house. I called Cody's parents and the school officer. Then

a girl called back and said she was with the boy who saw na and

she gave me more details. I called Cody's mom and told her the

details and her husband called the school officer and then, while I

was on the phone, they reached the area in question and it was

surrounded by police cars and the police managed to close in and

capture both kids.

>

> Of course doesn't have a cell phone and I had no way of

telling him what was going on. I also had no way of telling him

where the kids were being taken or where to pick them up. By the

time I finally got in touch with him they had already taken na

down to the youth center for processing.

>

> When should we go pick her up? Now? tomorrow? a few hours from

now?

>

> is home now. I'll give more details later.

>

> Thank you all so much for being there for me.

>

> Smiles!

>

>

> 37 year old wife to , 41

> Mom to:

> na-14-NT

> Marilla-8-Autistic

> Sherman-7-Autistic

> Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

>

> " It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is

whatever you want it to be. " Dr. , Port

>

>

> Re: OMG - na?

>

>

> In a message dated 11/2/2001 4:42:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> vtwelch@h... writes:

>

>

> > Do they understand about histrionics and melodrama? Do they

know the

> > martyrdom that is a fourteen year old girl? Should I allow

them to take

> > her to juvie or should I insist that she be brought right home

so I can

> > deal with her myself?

> >

> > Assuming she is doing this on purpose and they find her and

bring her

> > home.... how does one greet their child who purposely ran away

and hid for

> > over 24 hours (so far)?

> >

> > That is all I have right now.

> >

> > Love to all,

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> Oh ....

> My heart goes out to you...

> Ron

>

>

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

The first time my sister ran away, my mother picked her up right away. The

second time, she made her sit in the juvie over night. Let na know

what will happen the next time. She needs to be as scared as you have been

for the last day.

I am terribly sorry this had to happen. Was she threatening to do it or was

it a whim? My sister threatened for days, so it was not a huge surprise.

My thoughts are with you. Let me know if I can do anything.

Amy H

Kepler 4 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

" There is so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of

us, that it behooves all of us not to talk about the rest of us. " ~

Louis son

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Link to comment
Share on other sites

>As for the cop's comments, does he have children? Specifically girls?

No, but I think that he should be blessed with lots of beautiful and wayward

girls.... and maybe a few autistic ones as well.

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

:

I came tagging in on the happy ending. Thank goodness she was found! I

can't imagine how terrified you must have been (I ran away once with no more

excuse than it seemed like a fun thing to do; now that I am a parent I think

I should have been strangled...)

As for the cop's comments, does he have children? Specifically girls?

Salli

Link to comment
Share on other sites

,

I am way behind on the emails. I am so glad na

was found. She might be safer if she stayed with the

authorities! I don't know what I would do if I were

you. You seem to have handled the whole situation

quite well. You are a strong lady.

=====

Ginger, wife to Jeff

14 ADD

9 Autistic

7 NT

__________________________________________________

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In a message dated 11/2/2001 6:55:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vtwelch@... writes:

> Thank you all so much for being there for me.

>

> Smiles!

>

Lord have mercy!!!! So glad she's been found safe and sound!!

******Terry******

Wife to: Ron

Mom to: Alec 10, NVLD - Sam 4, Autism - Abbie 3, PDD-NOS

Link to comment
Share on other sites

> Why doesn't the school call an assembly and explain the real

dangers out there!

>

>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -

Sorry -

HS politics would not allow such a thing. IMHO.

Penny - Survivor of the " teenage HS years " , ugh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

> Thank you all so much for your good thoughts and support.

>

> na was found, safe and sound, hanging out at the mall with the

boy who was also missing. The cops picked her up.

>

Thank Goodness.

Have you killed her yet?

this is a tough one . I think all you can do is tell her that

you are there for her if she wants to talk. I wouldn't cave, cuz

that's not what she's looking for. She needs boundaries, which is

sounds like you've got covered, and she will thank you 10 years down

the road.

Just my 2 cents.

Penny

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jacquie,

I wanted to leave her there overnight. We were planning to leave her there

overnight. My thought was that at least I could get a good night's sleep

knowing that she was safe and sound and not have to worry for a night about her

leaving in the middle of the night.

But we live in the land of Oz. Allow me to illustrate:

In the normal world if a boy and girl run away together and are picked up by the

police, normally they are taken to separate facilities and locked up in a secure

environment until their parents decide to pick them up. If they should spend

the night in this secure environment, they are locked in. Neither child is

treated sweetly or with great respect.

In the Land of Oz the same boy and girl are taken together to a youth detention

center where they are asked to sign a paper promising not to touch each other.

They are allowed to stay together in the large recreation room. They are

allowed to sit together at the dinner table. At night they are led to separate

rooms in separate halls and put to bed. But the doors are not locked. And

nobody is watching the doors.

We had to go get her and take her home.

We were not pleased.

I am sure that I am supposed to have had an emotional " hug hug weep weep " " Don't

you ever scare me like that again! " scene, but the era of psychological wisdom

that I grew up with was, " don't say it if you don't feel it. " I heard her out

in the hall being told that her parents were here and she says (flatly), " Oh,

Fun. " She came in with her arms crossed and her face in a sullen mask and I

just did not feel like jumping up and squealing with joy that she was safe and

sound. I had known she was safe and sound for hours by that time already and so

it wasn't some great surprise; and I couldn't act as if it were. Sorry if this

makes me a meanie, but I think it also makes me honest, too.

We have talked and we have gone over details and now I have the perfect comment

for her crossed arms and sullen face that is currently working to break her out

of that mode: I call her a hermit crab and she giggles.

she has acknowledged that she might not have been exhibiting the cleverest

behavior of her life when she ran away to avoid being put on restriction.

I have to go. I am going to have to kill Sherman. He is standing here whining

and crying because he wants the computer and I have it. He won't leave me alone

and I am either going to have to hurt him or I am going to have to leave.

I know. I will run away! I will steal a bike off the college campus and I will

ride my bike to Mexico! That should solve all my problems!

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

My hard-line self says pick her up tomorrow. But I couldn't do that.

I would like to think that I'd let her cool her heels at the authorities for a

few hours before picking her up. If I were in your situation, that's what I

would most want to do.

But in the end, I'd probably rush down there immediately, carried by waves of

relief.

Let us know what you decided and how it went!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Amy,

It was apparently a whim. She had been complaining about her horrible parents

(who threatened her life with restriction if she received even just ONE " F " on

her report card) for weeks. She was dredging up every awful thing that she

could imagine had ever happened to her and was parading it out for her friends,

trying to find someone who would sympathize and understand why she had to run

away. None of her friends would agree with her as their parents were just as

unreasonable but they were smart enough to realize that having to report home

before changing locations was not akin to being punched in the face or kicked

across the room.

She found another boy who was being used horribly by his parents (they wouldn't

let him get a driver's license until he achieved a " B " average-some people!).

And they insisted on picking him up after school and they insisted that he call

whenever he was going to go someplace other than where they already knew he was!

So they commiserated and wept together over their horrible lives and decided

that they didn't have to put up with that kind of abuse! They could get married

and ride stolen bikes to Mexico. He would get a job and she would finish high

school there in that nice foreign country just south of the border.

As I told Jacquie, I would have left her there overnight if it had been a secure

facility. But since we live in a freaking fairy land (No offense to real

faeries; I am referring to Fairy Tale land, of course <S>), we had to go get

her. If she had stolen a few more things or had committed at least two other

crimes then they could have taken her to the real juvenile detention hall.

She claims that there will never be a next time. We told her some of the

stories of what happens on the streets (not just what happens to pretty girls;

the way people in homes treat people who live on the streets and smell bad; the

way street people treat street people; the fact that as a minor the only places

she could go for help would turn her in to the police.... etc). We told her

that most runaways are hardened by a life of real abuse. We pointed out that

most street people will not be asking her nicely to please beg for money on a

different corner as they had been working that corner first and that 7-11 clerks

are not going to welcome them into their bathrooms to wash and get some water to

drink.... and it is a long way between 7-11's out in the desert.

I don't know if she is planning to run again or if she would run again given the

opportunity; but I have to assume that she will.

Gotta go!

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

,

The first time my sister ran away, my mother picked her up right away. The

second time, she made her sit in the juvie over night. Let na know

what will happen the next time. She needs to be as scared as you have been

for the last day.

I am terribly sorry this had to happen. Was she threatening to do it or was

it a whim? My sister threatened for days, so it was not a huge surprise.

My thoughts are with you. Let me know if I can do anything.

Amy H

Kepler 4 ASD and Bethany 6 NT

" There is so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of

us, that it behooves all of us not to talk about the rest of us. " ~

Louis son

_________________________________________________________________

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You know, Ron, I do kind of agree with what you say here. She has never been

exposed to the kind of violence that most juvie kids take as a matter of course.

She has no idea what the real world is like. we tell her as much as we can, but

being told about being suddenly attacked by a gang of about 5 guys - three of

whom hold your boyfriend at bay and beat him up and the other two concentrating

on you - is just not the same as experiencing it. I have asked her why she

would want to put herself in a position to increase her chances of getting

punched?

grabbed her by the wrist to illustrate how easily she could be captured and

thrown around. He just held her wrist (and took care not to break or grind

anything) and let her try to get away. Then we pointed out that she couldn't

get away from an overweight out of shape middle aged man - how did she expect to

get away from a younger, stronger and meaner man?

There is a school for bad kids here. We haven't discussed it, but I am not keen

on the idea that the only way to keep her safe in a public school is to put her

in with criminal kids and runaways! Even if the authorities here don't think

their juvenile criminals are " all that bad " .

We want her to be aware of the dangers, but I still want to protect her from the

worst of it. I am afraid that protecting her from the knowledge of the seedier

elements of the world is going to cause her to go running into the street life

with no idea what she is getting into! But I still don't want to have to tell

her about the worst of what life on the streets is about.

So we are telling her some and leaving out the rest.

If the Utah juvie had been a lock-down, we would have left her there; but if we

were in Florida, I might have had to think about it a little harder before

planning to leave her there.

Why does this have to be so hard? I go to so much trouble to raise a kid I can

talk to and sing with and explain stuff to; and still I get a kid who is put

upon so badly that she must run away rather than endure her life at home.

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

Thank God....

I'd pick her up when they were done...

But I'd let them put a very big scare into her too...

A 14 year old doesn't need to be around the element at a juvy

Just my 2 cents

Ron

Link to comment
Share on other sites

BJ

If your parents had talked to you and made you admit what was wrong with your

plans, and if they had set it up so that you couldn't even go to the bathroom

without someone standing outside the door waiting for you.... etc, etc, would

you have quit running or grabbed your first opportunity?

Were you really in a harsh home? or did you just think you were?

I am very curious. I never ran away; but I didn't have to. I had gone to a

great deal of trouble to earn trust and my mom had too much to worry about to

fret over a kid who always came home and passed from one grade to the next with

little trouble.

Smiles!

37 year old wife to , 41

Mom to:

na-14-NT

Marilla-8-Autistic

Sherman-7-Autistic

Greilyn-2-NT (so far)

" It is never too late to start from where you are. The future is whatever you

want it to be. " Dr. , Port

Re: OMG - na?

I am so glad to hear she's been found, safe and sound.

I know this will sound harsh, but . . . take it from a former 14-year-old

runaway who lived on the streets until I turned 16 . . . the longer you let

her sit in processing . . . the stronger your message of " intolerance "

towards this type of behavior will be.

I ran away constantly as a teen. It wasn't until I had to spend the night

with the real ruffians in a kiddie jail that I straightened up.

BJ

Link to comment
Share on other sites

While I am terribly relieved, although I am sure much less than you,

that na has been returned safe and sound to you, I perfectly

understand your desire for a short vacation elsewhere. Might I

suggest that you join Salli and I in Outer Mongolia in our yurt

while we drink tea and yak's milk? Under present circumstances we

plan on leaving immmediately as soon as we are able to secure

suitable replacements for ourselves.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Salli and I

Make that Salli and ME. Yeesh! Salli and me. Not I. Me. I yi yi.

It is definitely time to go to bed.

who is very tired physically and emotionally after day four

in Chris's current manic phase.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

> as soon as we are able to secure suitable replacements for ourselves. <

sorry monique, can't be done. you two are one of a kind ;)

love gina, who's feeling a bit like yogi berra

" Isn't it wonderful how each of us on this earth was created just a little bit

different? " - Linus

" I gave up trying to understand people long ago. Now I just let them try to

understand me. " - Snoopy

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...