Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Thanks for the support, however my implants where removed without the capsules and I have still been sick. My husband of 27YEARS not only does not understand , he is down right mean!! I truely can't accept this attitude any longer. The struggle of dealing with the illness alone and trying to keep up a good apprearance is just too much. The everyday struggle of just staying out of the big black hole has been very difficult. I am losing the battle to keep my head high and would like to sail away in the sunset to never return. How much stronger does a person have to be? I have cancelled all future doctor appointments for this whole mess is a losing battle. I hope other woman won't experience the pain of insensitive pork faces, as if being really ill was not enough. Margie From: Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...>Reply- To: Subject: RE: MargieDate: Tue, 9 May 2006 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Margie, Many times our loved ones remain clueless as to what we are dealing with. I remember how my husband really didn't understand the seriousness of my sickness, and didnt' want me to be too impulsive in removing the implants. I was actually surprised at this turn because he didn't push me to get implants at all, but he really didn't want me to be without them either! I looked healthy enough, but I was feeling poisoned beyond belief. It was a very tough time for us. I ended up doing everything myself. He was not a computer whiz (still rebels against the idea of being so dependent upon them), and he did no reading, no talking to doctors, nothing. Funny that he had gone to my implanting doctor for consult though....he showed interest then. But when it came time to explant, it was really hard to work through all the emotions. He finally came around. Now he is right in step along side me regarding how stupid doctors can be. He doesn't trust any of them anymore. He has been a real blessing. I just wanted to say that men can sometimes be confused and not really know how to act when we get sick. I think alot of them just don't want to deal with it because they don't know how to fix it themselves, and they are too willing to let the doctors have all the say. And when doctors say it's not the implants, they go along with that. It takes a bit of effort to get our loved ones to begin to see things in the reality that we face....that until those implants come out, we are not going to get better. It's a pretty dismal situation. You can get better. Just keep plugging away at what you know to be right in your heart. Hugs, PattyMargie Horan <margiehoran@...> wrote: I did not notice any symptoms at the time the implant ruptured. The ps does not know I am sick.The diagnosing has been just in the last two months. When the implant ruptured he asked if i want new ones back in, i said no because a could not afford them and because they did not last the way i thought they would. There was no mention of the replacement policy too. This doctor was suppose to be good. I cant believe i knew nothing about the capsule removal part. As for stress, Its my middle name... and toxic relationships.. that would be my husband of 27 years. He has failed in the part that says " In sickness and in health". For he has not believed one word about me being sick! So glad to know helpfull woman like you! Margie Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:http://.shutterfly.com/action/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Patty, I think you are exactly right, men want to fix things, and if they cannot fix us, they sometimes act in ways that we truly do not understand, either anger, denial, ignoring the issue, or blaming us. I think they do not understand why they act the way they do. Fortunately your husband came around. Many do. I truly feel badly for the women whose husbands and/or families never come around to understanding the problems we have. Lynda At 11:45 AM 5/9/2006, you wrote: >Margie, >Many times our loved ones remain clueless as to >what we are dealing with. I remember how my >husband really didn't understand the seriousness >of my sickness, and didnt' want me to be too >impulsive in removing the implants. I was >actually surprised at this turn because he >didn't push me to get implants at all, but he >really didn't want me to be without them >either! I looked healthy enough, but I was >feeling poisoned beyond belief. It was a very tough time for us. > >I ended up doing everything myself. He was not >a computer whiz (still rebels against the idea >of being so dependent upon them), and he did no >reading, no talking to doctors, nothing. Funny >that he had gone to my implanting doctor for >consult though....he showed interest then. But >when it came time to explant, it was really hard >to work through all the emotions. > >He finally came around. Now he is right in step >along side me regarding how stupid doctors can >be. He doesn't trust any of them anymore. He has been a real blessing. > >I just wanted to say that men can sometimes be >confused and not really know how to act when we >get sick. I think alot of them just don't want >to deal with it because they don't know how to >fix it themselves, and they are too willing to >let the doctors have all the say. And when >doctors say it's not the implants, they go along >with that. It takes a bit of effort to get our >loved ones to begin to see things in the reality >that we face....that until those implants come >out, we are not going to get better. It's a pretty dismal situation. > >You can get better. Just keep plugging away at >what you know to be right in your heart. >Hugs, >Patty > >Margie Horan <margiehoran@...> wrote: >I did not notice any symptoms at the time the >implant ruptured. The ps does not know I am >sick.The diagnosing has been just in the last >two months. When the implant ruptured he asked >if i want new ones back in, i said no because a >could not afford them and because they did not >last the way i thought they would. There was no >mention of the replacement policy too. This >doctor was suppose to be good. I cant believe i >knew nothing about the capsule removal part. As >for stress, Its my middle name... and toxic >relationships.. that would be my husband of 27 >years. He has failed in the part that says " In >sickness and in health " . For he has not believed >one word about me being sick! So glad to know helpfull woman like you! Margie > > > Messenger with Voice. ><http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman1/*http://us.rd./evt=3\ 9663/*http://voice.>Make >PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the >place of advice given by licensed health care >professionals. Consult your physician or >licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or >the politicians mislead you. Find out what the >facts are, and make your own decisions about how >to live a happy life and how to work for a >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel >Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: ><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\ m/action/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Margie, We've all been through the doctor routine . . . I'm afraid almost all of us have lost the faith we once had in doctors! . . . But then, maybe that's good! . . .. Look what they've done to us by promoting breast implants and claiming they're safe! As for your hubby . . . Hang in there! . . . We've seen quite a few women whose husbands have been less than supportive . . . some, like you say are downright mean! . . . Most of them come around with huge regrets when they see the difference! Don't let him stop you. When he sees you getting better, he'll probably come around . . . If not, at least you'll be feeling well enough to take care of yourself! . . . Does that sound like a win-win proposition? . . . We've seen soooooooo many women come thorough the group! . . . I can't remember a single one who regretted having her implants removed, or was sicker afterwards. . . I know you've had your implants removed . . . but that was just half the job . . You need to have the capsules removed so you can get your life back . . . It's well worth the effort! . . . Life can be good again! . . Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Ohhh don't get me started on doctors! If I ever get through this settlement, I never want to see another doctor as long as I live, except my internist and my friend V. I told V tonight that I thought 95% of the doctors down here are jacka**es!! As usual, my tact was showing. ;-) > > Margie, > > We've all been through the doctor routine . . . I'm > afraid almost all of us have lost the faith we once > had in doctors! . . . But then, maybe that's good! . . > . Look what they've done to us by promoting breast > implants and claiming they're safe! > > As for your hubby . . . Hang in there! . . . We've > seen quite a few women whose husbands have been less > than supportive . . . some, like you say are downright > mean! . . . Most of them come around with huge regrets > when they see the difference! > > Don't let him stop you. When he sees you getting > better, he'll probably come around . . . If not, at > least you'll be feeling well enough to take care of > yourself! . . . Does that sound like a win-win > proposition? . . . > > We've seen soooooooo many women come thorough the > group! . . . I can't remember a single one who > regretted having her implants removed, or was sicker > afterwards. . . I know you've had your implants > removed . . . but that was just half the job . . You > need to have the capsules removed so you can get your > life back . . . > > It's well worth the effort! . . . Life can be good > again! . . > > Hugs and prayers, > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Rogene, I am not in a postion to have any surgeries, now and in the furture. I am a very bad bleeder since acquiring the blood disease and financely drained from all the testing. I am not even sure if the symptoms would charge due to the mgus. So, I feel very confused on all this. The look in my husbands eyes is the hardest to deal with. I know what he is thinking, she's crazy, that really hurts. I just try to deal with all of this everyday the best i can. Thanks Margie >From: Rogene S <saxony01@...> >Reply- > >Subject: RE: Margie >Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 18:48:44 -0700 (PDT) > > > > >Margie, > > > >We've all been through the doctor routine . . . I'm > >afraid almost all of us have lost the faith we once > >had in doctors! . . . But then, maybe that's good! . . > >. Look what they've done to us by promoting breast > >implants and claiming they're safe! > > > >As for your hubby . . . Hang in there! . . . We've > >seen quite a few women whose husbands have been less > >than supportive . . . some, like you say are downright > >mean! . . . Most of them come around with huge regrets > >when they see the difference! > > > >Don't let him stop you. When he sees you getting > >better, he'll probably come around . . . If not, at > >least you'll be feeling well enough to take care of > >yourself! . . . Does that sound like a win-win > >proposition? . . . > > > >We've seen soooooooo many women come thorough the > >group! . . . I can't remember a single one who > >regretted having her implants removed, or was sicker > >afterwards. . . I know you've had your implants > >removed . . . but that was just half the job . . You > >need to have the capsules removed so you can get your > >life back . . . > > > >It's well worth the effort! . . . Life can be good > >again! . . > > > >Hugs and prayers, > > > >Rogene > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time >Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > >http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Margie, I'm so sorry . . . you're really over the barrel! There are some things you can do for yourself, without a doctor. . . Eating right is key . . . The Maker's Diet not only outlines a diet that can help you immensely, it explains why diet is so important. . . Also . . . eating fresh, raw, crushed garlic can do wonders! . . . It costs almost nothing! . . . It's a natural antibiotic, antifungal and antioxident. . . I can tell a difference within 24 hours. . . Of course there's the smell. But if you'll serve garlic laced foods to those around you, they won't notice so much. Eating an apple afterwards helps clear the taste. Also, Oil of Oregano is in the same category. It's not very expensive. . . Whatever you do, I'd suggest starting slowly so you don't experience a big herx! . . . There are other things you can do to get the toxins out of your body . . . check our archives for Links and Files. Lots of good info there. . . Ask if you have any questions . . . The ladies here have tried many of the programs and can tell you how well they worked for them. Hugs and prayers, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 So sorry to hear you do not have support at home. Please don't give up on your health. Try some alternative methods, if you haven't already and keep connected to this site. Everyone here is more than caring and helpful. Love 'n Peace, Sunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2006 Report Share Posted May 12, 2006 THANK YOU SO MUCH, ALL YOU WOMAN HAVE BEEN VERY NICE! MARGIE >From: " Sunny " <wellnessnow@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Margie >Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 23:42:35 -0000 > > > > >So sorry to hear you do not have support at home. Please don't give up > >on your health. Try some alternative methods, if you haven't already > >and keep connected to this site. Everyone here is more than caring and > >helpful. > > > >Love 'n Peace, > > > >Sunny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time >Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace) > > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link: > >http://.shutterfly.com/action/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Dear Margie, My heart just aches for you in your situation. It sounds like you are near rock bottom, and I know you are probably emotionally as low as you can get, but I want to encourage you! You can rise above all of this, I promise! God has an answer for you in your situation and He cares. I can guarantee you this because of what He has said to us in His word, and what I have personally experienced myself. And there are millions of people before us who have also experienced this breathtaking renewal that can be yours. It just takes a step of faith. I know you can do that much Margie. I am not sure of your religious background, but I pray that you won't find my words preachy....that is not my intent. My heart, my concern, my willingness to share is out of personal experience. I know what it feels like to feel lost, alone, out of control, forgotten, insignificant, worthless, ashamed, and utterly forlorn. I know those feelings well. But my redemption came when I looked to God. God's Word has always been true, but sometimes we have to hit rock bottom to find it. Margie, please don't use your husband as a mirror to look into to find your worth. In fact, don't use anyone else at all. There is no person on this earth who should be able to eat your soul away or take away your sense of dignity ever. You can't let them....you are in control of this. Sometimes we don't feel in control of it, but the truth is that our purpose in life is not to fulfill other people's goals or be someone they want us to be. Our purpose in life is to honor our God who created us. When we find our worth in God, everything falls into place. When you see yourself through God's eyes, then you will know your true worth. And you are priceless! Fill your mind with this truth, not lies. Everyone has a God shaped hole in their heart that can only be filled by God. There are lost people all over this earth who are seeking to fill that hole with all kinds of different things. Some people seek to fill it with a relationship with their husband. Lots of people seek to fill it with sex. Millions of other seek to fill that emptiness with drugs, alcohol, money, riches, whatever, only to ultimately be left empty. Margie, am I making any sense to you? I hope so, because the lies we believe need to be replaced with God's truth. Replace that lie you believe about your husband, your sister, or any of us being able to fill that empty place in your soul....replace that lie with the truth...that God loves you so very much that He gave all He had to redeem you to Himself. Oh, how I wish you could sense the depth of that love! I don't know if we can ever understand it! But Margie, you can feel it. You can know it. You can experience it. When you accept Christ to cover you in redemption, you will be covered in His love, and it is a love that never fails. I used to lack joy in my life, but when I turned my life over to Christ and became a born again believer in His redemption, joy flooded my soul like I had never known before. When I replaced the lies I believed with the truth, I was set free. You can be set free from this emptiness and this pain you feel Margie. God is there for you every single time you need Him. He promises that He will never leave us, never forsake us. When I got married, my husband was my everything. I loved him to pieces and I felt so blessed. But over time, our relationship went through the ups and downs that all marriages and relationships do. He really wasn't the one who brought my ultimate joy at all. For a time I had let him take the place in my heart of "master" of my universe. I lived for him, sought to please him in every way, made his goals my goals, and basically lost myself in him. But that was wrong. Once I realized the truth that God was the only One who could consume that place in my soul, my life became totally and completely blessed. Of course, I love my husband....I just realize that he cannot be my everything. Only God can be my everything. God's Word is filled with promises. I can try to share some of them with you, but it won't be enough! If you are already a Christian, then go deeper. Christ is a person, He is someone you can have a relationship with. You can talk to Him in prayer, and you can expect Him to answer...through His word, or through your heart. He will. And you will have peace in your soul like you have never had before. Other women have given good advice...such as getting a job, or taking up a hobby or doing things with other people and those are all good suggestions. The goal is to remove yourself physically from your husband's dominion. I agree with those suggestions. But I want to go one step further. You can remove yourself from his dominion in your heart as well, Margie, and let God take away all that pain, by submitting to God's truth and allowing God's truth to fill your soul and take up residence there. He will set you free. Here's what you can believe: "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you: not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." 14:27 "For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." 2 1:7 "For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; nor has he hidden his face from him; but when he cried to him, he heard." Psalm 22:24 "Cast your burden on the Lord, and He shall sustain you; He shall never permit the righteous to be moved." Psalm 55:22 "The Lord upholds all who fall, and raises up all those who are bowed down." Psalm 145:14 "Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Philippians 4: 6-7 "Be of good courage, and He shall strengthen your heart, all you who hope in the Lord." Psalm 31:24 "Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand." Isaiah 41: 10 "I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you." 14:18 "He heals the broken-hearted and binds up their wounds." Psalm 147: 3 " For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8: 38-39 God bless you Margie, Patty Margiehoran@...> wrote: , the situation at the home front only seems to be getting worse. The spouse of 27YEARS!! has gone from bad to worse. I now can't even talk about any issues, health, emotions, the support group etc. Any time of the day if I start to talk about my feelings, he now leaves the house and drives away. Then he won't come home again till I stop all communication, unless we talk about poker. This is completely eating up my soul, piece by piece he his taking what dignity I have let away. As far as friends, my best friend was my sister, but she moved away 2 years ago, but she was not a good listener anyway. Does this mean that i should be taking antidepressants just to put up with this crap? I consider myself a very tough cookie, but this cookie has crumbled. Margie Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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