Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 I have to agree w/Christene...you definately have a " gift " Sis...I've been silently reading your posts for quite a while! Hugs, Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Wow!! Thanks Cheryl!! Sis > > I have to agree w/Christene...you definately have a " gift " Sis...I've > been silently reading your posts for quite a while! > Hugs, > Cheryl > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary when you think like that when you never did before. Thank you for your support.auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: ,I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time, because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home. Sis> Dawn,> > Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must reading for every woman considering breast implants!> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 . . . It seems that the harder the sell (that implants are making you sick), the more convinced they are when you start getting better . . . Doctors are some of our biggest skeptics - but we're winning them over too - one by one! Stay strong and do what you know you need to do. . . Your instincts will show you the way. Hugs and prayers, Rogene . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 , What kind of doctor is your dad? That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation, (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad? He said, "It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick." Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron. (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !) It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that hurts so much. But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this group is here. We know we need each other. I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let us know how you are doing. Patty Platte <deniseplatte@...> wrote: I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary when you think like that when you never did before. Thank you for your support.auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: ,I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time, because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home. Sis> Dawn,> > Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must reading for every woman considering breast implants!> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Patty~` thanx so much.Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: , What kind of doctor is your dad? That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation, (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad? He said, "It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick." Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron. (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !) It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that hurts so much. But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this group is here. We know we need each other. I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let us know how you are doing. Patty Platte <deniseplatte@...> wrote: I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary when you think like that when you never did before. Thank you for your support.auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: ,I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time, because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home. Sis> > Did anyone ever feel they were not going to make it. Or, suicidal?> > Thanks,> > Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:> Dawn,> > Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must reading for every woman considering breast implants!> > Hugs,> > Rogene> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Hi Patty, Maybe our being women IS why we are sick, there are constant studies that show that women are more likely than men to react to different substances or have different diseases. How many times have you read that women are more likely than men to have auto-immune illnesses or depression? I think there has to be some sort of hormonal component. If this is true, it should be so easy for doctors to understand us because it isn't all in our heads, it's in our genetic makeup as women!! Kenda > , > What kind of doctor is your dad? > > That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning > toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told > him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation, > (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad? > He said, " It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick. " > > Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there > and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron. > > (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !) > > It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those > are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that > hurts so much. > > But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the > association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies > and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of > all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many > lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to > rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this > group is here. We know we need each other. > > I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let > us know how you are doing. > Patty > > > > Platte <deniseplatte@...> wrote: > I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my > explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so > close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is > doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important > me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just > die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary > when you think like that when you never did before. > > Thank you for your support. > > auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: > , > > I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some > suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me > about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to > just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I > felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it > because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and > within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from > doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing > it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time, > because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my > parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I > thought " what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then > I'd have to be there for eternity " . I decided I'd just leave it in > my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home. > > Sis > > >> Dawn, >> >> Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the > downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must > reading for every woman considering breast implants! >> >> Hugs, >> >> Rogene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > different. Just radically better. >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates > starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Kenda, That is true...women do suffer more, and hormones probably have alot to do with it. But rather than help us, alot of doctors want to just blame us! That is what is so frustrating. You can bet that if it were men who were suffering, they would have climbed mountains, swam the oceans, and gone to the moon to find a cure and fix it. But since it's just us women, well, we're crazy! We're hypochonriacs! We just have to suck it up and live with it. Right! What a world. PattyKenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Hi Patty,Maybe our being women IS why we are sick, there are constant studies thatshow that women are more likely than men to react to different substances orhave different diseases. How many times have you read that women are morelikely than men to have auto-immune illnesses or depression? I think therehas to be some sort of hormonal component. If this is true, it should be soeasy for doctors to understand us because it isn't all in our heads, it's inour genetic makeup as women!!Kenda> ,> What kind of doctor is your dad?> > That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning> toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told> him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation,> (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad?> He said, "It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick."> > Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there> and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron.> > (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !)> > It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those> are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that> hurts so much.> > But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the> association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies> and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of> all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many> lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to> rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this> group is here. We know we need each other.> > I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let> us know how you are doing.> Patty> > > > Platte <deniseplatte > wrote:> I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my> explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so> close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is> doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important> me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just> die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary> when you think like that when you never did before.> > Thank you for your support.> > auntsisnj <auntsisnjlycos> wrote:> ,> > I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some> suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me> about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to> just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I> felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it> because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and> within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from> doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing> it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time,> because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my> parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I> thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then> I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in> my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home.> > Sis> > >> Dawn,>> >> Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the> downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must> reading for every woman considering breast implants!>> >> Hugs,>> >> Rogene>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------->> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically> different. Just radically better.>> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates> starting at 1¢/min. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Are there any stories of TransGender men with breast implants having problems? I was just wondering if this doctor would have made the same statement in this case? Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Hi Patty,Maybe our being women IS why we are sick, there are constant studies thatshow that women are more likely than men to react to different substances orhave different diseases. How many times have you read that women are morelikely than men to have auto-immune illnesses or depression? I think therehas to be some sort of hormonal component. If this is true, it should be soeasy for doctors to understand us because it isn't all in our heads, it's inour genetic makeup as women!!Kenda> ,> What kind of doctor is your dad?> > That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning> toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told> him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation,> (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad?> He said, "It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick."> > Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there> and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron.> > (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !)> > It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those> are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that> hurts so much.> > But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the> association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies> and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of> all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many> lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to> rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this> group is here. We know we need each other.> > I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let> us know how you are doing.> Patty> > > > Platte <deniseplatte > wrote:> I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my> explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so> close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is> doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important> me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just> die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary> when you think like that when you never did before.> > Thank you for your support.> > auntsisnj <auntsisnjlycos> wrote:> ,> > I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some> suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me> about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to> just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I> felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it> because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and> within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from> doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing> it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time,> because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my> parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I> thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then> I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in> my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home.> > Sis> > >> Dawn,>> >> Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the> downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must> reading for every woman considering breast implants!>> >> Hugs,>> >> Rogene>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------->> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically> different. Just radically better.>> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates> starting at 1¢/min. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 I'm sure there are men having problems too . . . When we went to D.C. about ten years ago, there was a man there who told us he had all the same problems we did. He had a silicone testicle.I suspect that men are slower to make the connection - or reach out if they do. . . .Look how many years it took women to start discussing breast implants!Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 This is a good question. I believe there have been, but going to those websites that discuss them is always odd, not to mention offensive. I guess I just find the whole idea very distasteful. Anyway, I read about a man (woman? what do you call these people?) who got sick from implants, but didn't save the link. I wish I could remember the website so I could repost the link. But in any case, yes, these people can have the same problems as we do. I wonder if they would be taken seriously though, given their strangeness. Patty Lamse <wannabe_proverbs31@...> wrote: Are there any stories of TransGender men with breast implants having problems? I was just wondering if this doctor would have made the same statement in this case? Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Hi Patty,Maybe our being women IS why we are sick, there are constant studies thatshow that women are more likely than men to react to different substances orhave different diseases. How many times have you read that women are morelikely than men to have auto-immune illnesses or depression? I think therehas to be some sort of hormonal component. If this is true, it should be soeasy for doctors to understand us because it isn't all in our heads, it's inour genetic makeup as women!!Kenda> ,> What kind of doctor is your dad?> > That's so sad that he doesn't understand either. My father was leaning> toward that opinion too. One of his friends is a gynecologist. My dad told> him about my illness, trying to get a professional opinion about my situation,> (rather than just believing me) and do you know what this OB/GYN told my dad?> He said, "It's because she's a woman. That's why she's sick."> > Can you believe that??? I was ready to jump in my car to stomp over there> and just slap that guy silly. Sheesh. What a moron.> > (Watch out for those OB/GYN's girls! OopsI hope you dad isn't one !)> > It is very hurtful when people don't understand us, especially when those> are the people we've come to lean on and trust to be there for us. Oh, that> hurts so much.> > But , this whole illness is just not understood, it is neglected, the> association between implants and illness has been twisted into a web of lies> and deceit from the manufacturers, doctors, lawyers, medical professionals of> all kinds, and the media. It is a weapon of the devil used to destroy many> lives. Once we recognize that we are going to be misunderstood, we learn to> rely on ourselves, and use our smarts to find our way back. That's why this> group is here. We know we need each other.> > I hope you know that we will be here for you. I am concerned for you...let> us know how you are doing.> Patty> > > > Platte <deniseplatte > wrote:> I don't feel supported by finace and family getting my> explantation. This is really hard. It is hurtful to find out those people so> close to you put so much emphasis on the physical. Even my dad, who is> doctor, told me I am going to miss them. I said, Dad...what's more important> me or my boobs. Ugh. Sometimes I too feel that it would be easier to just> die (very well worded), but I don't want too. So there. It's rough and scary> when you think like that when you never did before.> > Thank you for your support.> > auntsisnj <auntsisnjlycos> wrote:> ,> > I felt like I wasn't going to make it, and definitely had some> suicidal thoughts, especially when my husband was fighting with me> about getting the implants removed. I figured it would be easier to> just die, because that would be one thing I'd have control over. I> felt like I had no control over my own body and what I did with it> because we just charged all this money for me to get implants, and> within a few months I wanted them out. The things that kept me from> doing anything to harm myself were the people I would hurt by doing> it (and I wasn't worried about hurting my husband at the time,> because he was really hurting me). I didn't want to hurt my> parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews and my friends. Plus I> thought "what if you kill yourself and end up in a bad place, then> I'd have to be there for eternity". I decided I'd just leave it in> my maker's hands, and when he wants me he can call me home.> > Sis> > >> Dawn,>> >> Thanks for such an insightful post! . . . You covered the> downside of implants extremely well! . . . I wish it was must> reading for every woman considering breast implants!>> >> Hugs,>> >> Rogene>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------->> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically> different. Just radically better.>> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates> starting at 1¢/min. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hi Cherie, Yeah, I don't know why that's happening with this e-mail address I've got. Messages were bouncing from this support site, too, and I finally fixed it. I'll try to send you another, too. I'll send you another e-mail address to try. Sis Hope all is well. > > Hi Sis > I wanted to let you know I have been trying to reply to you, but my e- > mail keeps bouncing back - I think I am going into your spam folder?? > I'll keep trying. > Cherie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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