Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 I'll give it a whirl . Mo Practise random kindness and acts of senseless beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Dear Mo, You said: <<I'll give it a whirl .>> ** Which category are we putting you in, Mo? Is is a feet/magnesium soak, or magnesium water internally, or coconut oil on feet and internally, or just coconut oil internally? Also, why do you think you belong in whatever category here you choose? Everybody, please let me know what category you think you belong in and why if you're volunteering. Thanks. Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hi I have placed some recent photographs of my feet in the photo/files section of the W & R group. As anyone can see they are still quite a mess so I am keen to try things that might improve this situation. I am happy to provide followup photographs to the list. Happy to try soaking feet and or taking Coconut oil, kind of someone to donate Coconut oil, their interests in your work are much appreciated by list members. I do take magnesium and have done so for quite some time, additionally I take ALA,GLA, Horsechestnut & Ginkgo ...........there has been a noticable reduction in pain, especially on my left side (leg & foot)...............also I have noticed that low temperaturs, chills cold water is not such a problem either. Sensation has shown some signs of returning, tingling & burning has stopped on left side,(leg foot & hand) whilst numbness remains and there is a worsenning of the white blotching on my right palm, writing, typing and dropping things remains a problem.(Skin on palms not peeling) I certainly can walk a lot further now since taking the AAL etc The skin peeling (soles) is self evident, have tried topical steroid cream but not overly happy with using such things. I'll send you my home address in an e-mail Regards J > Some of you have foot problems with opeeling feet or rashes on your feet. > Would any of you want to try soaking your feet twice a day in magnesium > water? I am also looking for a few people to drink magnesium water who have > not been taking magnesium for more than 6 weeks. I'll send what is > necessary to you. Please let me know if you're interested. I will send > you what you need to do it. All you need to do is cover the shipping and > keep me informed on how it is going. > > > I am also waiting on a donation of coconut oil. This can be put on your > feet at night and taken orally. I'm open to having two categories of people > here. One category would be people who have the foot problems while the > other would be people still experiencing significant withdrawal effects and > willing to use a couple of teaspoons a day of this oil. Same deal. You pay > shipping and keep me informed. > > > > First come, first serve on these. I have/will be getting a limited > amount. > > > > For those unfamiliar with coconut oil... > > > > > > > > Home > > Research by > Dr. Enig > > Research on > Coconut Oil > > Research on > Cholesterol > > Research on > Saturated Fats > > Research on > Polyunsaturated Fats > > Research on Soy > > Peer-Reviewed > Research > > Contact Us > > > > > > > > > The Coconut Diet Forum is the largest coconut health discussion group on the > Internet! Hundreds of testimonies in the archives! Join in The Coconut Diet > Forums! > > Coconut Oil: Why it is Good For You > by Lee > 12/14/2001 > > In this article, fats and oils are used interchangeably but in a strict > sense, oil usually means liquid at room temperature and fat usually means > solid at room temperature. However, coconut oil is solid at temperatures > under 76 degrees F. So if you live at temperatures of 76 degrees F or more, > coconut oil is liquid; if less than 76 degrees F, coconut oil is a fat. > > Saturated fat - one that has a small degree of unsaturation or double bonds > and tends to be more solid at room temperatures lower than 76 degrees F. > Example: butter, coconut oil. > > Monounsaturated oil - Contains some saturated fat but is largely oleic acid, > a mono-unsaturated oil, which contains only one double bond. Example: Olive > oil. > > Polyunsaturated oils - poly means many, so this means that the fat has more > than one double bond. Example: linoleic (omega-6) acid has two double bonds; > alpha-linolenic (omega-3) acid has three double bonds; arachidonic acid has > four double bonds. > > The following information comes from the research of Ray Peat, Ph.D. and > G. Enig, Ph.D. References are given where applicable. > > I recommend only three types of fats to my clients: extra virgin olive oil, > organic or, preferably raw butter, and organic coconut oil. Most people > understand the first two but cringe at the thought of eating coconut oil. > Here's why I recommend coconut oil to everyone. > > Coconut oil has been used as cooking oil for thousands of years. Popular > cookbooks advertised it at the end of the 19th century. Then came the > anti-saturated fat campaign and the promotion of polyunsaturated fats, such > as flaxseed, canola, soybean, safflower, corn, and other seed and nut oils > plus their partially hydrogenated counterparts (margarine, " I can't believe > it's not butter " , etc.) as the way to go. Indeed, saturated fats have been > supposedly causally linked to high cholesterol and heart disease, multiple > sclerosis and other bad health conditions. I don't know how anyone came to > this conclusion, since it would be hard to find a person in America who has > a high saturated fat diet. Why? Because nearly all commercial foods, > including bread, crackers, chips, dips, many candies, zero cholesterol > coffee creamers, all mayonnaise and all salad dressings, many pastries and > ice creams, most dietetic (for weight loss or diabetes) " foods " , many > cereals, and nearly all crunchy snacks contain either polyunsaturated or > partially hydrogenated fats (which contain some margarine and some of the > unsaturated fat mixed together). These foods are often advertised as healthy > " all vegetarian, " " no-cholesterol " foods. Even the so-called saturated fat > in commercial meat is partly unsaturated because most cows are fed corn and > soybeans, both of which contain unsaturated oils. > > Are there any people who live on saturated fats who are healthy? Yes! People > who live in tropical climates and who have a diet high in coconut oil are > healthier, have less heart disease, cancer, colon problems and so on, than > unsaturated fat eaters. Two such groups of people include those from > Melanesia and the Yucatan. These people are slightly hyperthyroid because of > the thyroid stimulating effects of coconut oil plus a diet which includes > protein (fish) and adequate fruit (stimulates thyroid function). > > Can you eat unsaturated fats and get away with it? It all depends. The > Eskimos ate cold-water fish, high in unsaturated oils BUT they also ate the > whole animal, including the animal head, brain, thyroid glands, etc. and got > the hormones from these glandulars. This caused them to become hyperthyroid, > 25% higher than Americans, and they were classified as " pathologically > hyperthyroid " by standard medical definition. > > However, this so-called pathological condition allowed them to burn the > unsaturated fats in the foods they ate. If you are not an Eskimo and eat > mainly an unsaturated fat diet, you may be in trouble. > > Now you know why I wonder how anyone can associate high cholesterol or > saturated fats with heart disease, multiple sclerosis or any disease. Over > the past 40 years, Americans have increased their consumption of unsaturated > fats and partially hydrogenated fats and have decreased their consumption of > saturated fatty acids and butter. Lauric acid, the major fatty acid in > coconut oil and breast milk, is rarely present in the American diet. Yet > saturated fats are still being called the health culprits while grocery > stores abound with many kinds of seed and nut oils. Many have been told that > if the unsaturated oil is unprocessed, it is safe. This is untrue. The > harmful effects of unsaturated oil lie in their unsaturation, or the > presence of many double bonds, which are very labile and easily peroxidized > (become rancid inside the body). Details of this are given in the report on > unsaturated oils. > > Here is a summary of the health benefits of coconut oil. In general, coconut > oil stimulates thyroid function and has wonderful antiseptic properties. > > The Stability of Coconut Oil > Unsaturated oils in cooked foods become rancid in just a few hours, even in > the refrigerator, one reason for the " stale " taste of leftovers. However, > according to Peat, eating fresh unsaturated fats is even worse, because once > inside the body, they will oxidize (turn rancid) very rapidly due to being > heated and mixed with oxygen. Not so with coconut oil. Even after one year > at room temperature, coconut oil shows no evidence of rancidity even though > it contains 9% linoleic (omega - 6) polyunsaturated acid. Peat theorizes > that coconut oil may have antioxidant properties, since the oil doesn't turn > rancid and since it reduces our need for vitamin E, whereas unsaturated oils > deplete vitamin E. > > Thyroid-Stimulating, Anti-Aging Effects of Coconut Oil > Many researchers have reported that coconut oil lowers cholesterol > (Blackburn et al 1988, Ahrens and colleagues, 1957). In 1981, Prior et al. > showed that islanders with a diet high in coconut oil showed no harmful > health effects. When these groups migrated to New Zealand and lowered their > daily coconut oil intake, their total cholesterol and especially their LDL > cholesterol - the so-called evil one - increased. The cholesterol- lowering > properties of coconut oil are a direct result of its ability to stimulate > thyroid function. In the presence of adequate thyroid hormone, cholesterol > (specifically LDL-cholesterol) is converted by enzymatic processes to the > vitally necessary anti-aging steroids, pregnenolone, progesterone and DHEA. > These substances are required to help prevent heart disease, senility, > obesity, cancer and other diseases associated with aging and chronic > degenerative diseases. > > Weight Loss Stimulating Properties of Coconut Oil - a Direct Result of > Thyroid Stimulation > In the 1940's farmers tried coconut oil to fatten their animals but > discovered that it made them lean and active and increased their appetite. > Whoops! Then they tried an anti-thyroid drug. It made the livestock fat with > less food but was found to be a carcinogen (cancer causing drug). In the > late 1940's, it was found that the same anti-thyroid effect could be > achieved by simply feeding animals soybeans and corn. > > Anti-Cancer Effects of Coconut Oil > In 1987 Lim-Sylianco published a 50-year literature review showing the > anti-cancer effects of coconut oil. In chemically induced cancers of the > colon and breast, coconut oil was by far more protective than unsaturated > oils. For example 32% of corn oil eaters got colon cancer whereas only 3% of > coconut oil eaters got the cancer. Animals fed unsaturated oils had more > tumors. This shows the thyroid-suppressive and hence, immuno- suppressive > effect of unsaturated oils. (Cohen et al. 1986). > > When Albert Schweitzer operated his clinic in tropical Africa, he said that > it was many years before he saw a single case of cancer. He believed that > the appearance of cancer was caused by introduction of the European diet to > the Africans. Many studies since the 1920's have shown an association > between consumption of unsaturated oils and the incidence of cancer. > > Antimicrobial (Antiseptic) Effects of Coconut Oil > Coconut oil contains medium chain fatty acids such as lauric (C- 12), > caprylic (C-10) and myristic (C-14) acids. Of these three, coconut oil > contains 40% lauric acid, which has the greater anti-viral activity of these > three fatty acids. Lauric acid is so disease fighting that it is present in > breast milk. The body converts lauric acid to a fatty acid derivative > (monolaurin), which is the substance that protects infants from viral, > bacterial or protozoal infections. This was recognized and reported in 1966 > (Jon Kabara). Work by Hierholzer and Kabara (1982) showed that monolaurin > has virucidal effects on RNA and DNA viruses, which are surrounded by a > lipid membrane. In addition to these RNA and DNA viruses, in 1978, Kabara > and others reported that certain medium chain fatty acids, such as lauric > acid have adverse effects on other pathogenic microorganisms, including > bacteria, yeast and fungi. These fatty acids and their derivatives actually > disrupt the lipid membranes of the organisms and thus inactivate them > (Isaacs and Thormar 1991; Isaacs et al. 1992). This deactivation process > also occurs in human and bovine milk when fatty acids are added to them > (Isaacs et al. 1991). > > Here are two of my coconut oil salad dressing recipes: > > 's Ranch Salad Dressing > One egg > 4 tbsp cider vinegar (try 2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar plus 2 tbsp balsamic > vinegar or 4 tbsp of rice vinegar) > 1/2-tsp salt > 1/2-tsp dry mustard > Spike or other seasoning to taste > > Add the above ingredients to your blender. Then very slowly dribble into > blender one cup of oil consisting of about 3/4-cup coconut oil (melted and > cooled) plus 1/4-cup extra virgin olive oil to the blender and blend till > smooth. (The more coconut oil, the thicker the dressing). (If oil added too > fast, or oil is too hot, mixture will curdle). > > Then add the following ingredients to the mayonnaise you just made to make a > thick and creamy Ranch dressing that can be uses as a substitute for > mayonnaise: > > 1-1/4 cup buttermilk > 4-6 tbsp or so sour cream, cream cheese or honey yogurt > Onion flakes to taste > Garlic powder to taste > Salt > Juice of one lemon > Spike to taste or other seasoning > Black pepper > Parsley flakes > > Blend until smooth. Refrigerate. This dressing will thicken as it cools. You > can use it instead of mayonnaise and can dilute it with more buttermilk if > you want a thinner Ranch dressing. If this tastes too tart, add a little > honey. > > Other suggestions for using coconut oil in your diet: > > 1) When you make pastries, substitute 50% coconut oil for whatever fat is > recommended, hopefully butter. > > 2) When you fry or sauté eggs, fish, veggies or whatever, toss in some > coconut oil. Add butter or olive oil you wish, for flavor. > > To come: coconut oil ice cream! > > These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug > Administration. Not intended to diagnose, prescribe for, treat or claim to > prevent, mitigate or cure any human disease. The third party information > referred to herein is neither adopted nor endorsed by this web site but is > provided for general informational purposes. > > References: > > Peat, , Ph.D., From PMS to Menopause: Female Hormones in Context, > Chapter 29, page 175. Copyright 1997 by Peat, P.O. Box 5764, Eugene, > OR 97405. Price including S & H is $14. > > Reprinted with the permission of the author. ©2001 > > Regards, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 What caught my attention was something you said about the coconut being useful for those having difficulties with withdrawal.I suppose everyone has difficulties with withdrawal bt I am finding that with my last two reductions I had to go back up again after several weeks of torture! Would it help me in this respect do you think? Mo Practise random kindness and acts of senseless beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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