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it's reasonable. I was looking into MedGem before it closed. I've briefly talked

with them. My proposal was shot down because the CFO said medicare doesn't cover

it. MedGem said yes. I'm thinking medgem was in $2,000 range. One of the

proprosal would of gross 50k.

Judy Simon wrote: What is the cost? it is

not indicated on his website.

Judy Simon

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I have

extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you want

to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to help

you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to hearing

from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect calorimeter

by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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We have a medgem at our clinic. I have never had a complaint about

reimbursement. itis half the cost of this other brand, but I think the medgem

mouth pieces cost more. Another company bought medgem.

Judy Simon

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you

want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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Would you please tell me who bought Medgem. I have one and have been very

pleased with its use. thank you,

Mazarin, MS, RD, CNS

_____

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of

Judy Simon

Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:24 PM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: weight management

We have a medgem at our clinic. I have never had a complaint about

reimbursement. itis half the cost of this other brand, but I think the

medgem mouth pieces cost more. Another company bought medgem.

Judy Simon

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you

for taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if

you want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code

94690. Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private

healthcare insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined

to provide " best practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight

management then you must have a product that accurately produces a true

measured value rather than just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham <klinkrbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:klinkrb%40sbcglobal.net> net>

wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart <stuartwallachism (DOT) <mailto:stuart%40wallachism.com> com>

wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you

know it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right

and centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually

works, you are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested

at all.

Hollie Majewski <jewski79hotmail (DOT) <mailto:jewski79%40hotmail.com> com>

wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone

have any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance?

Grants? Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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Carefull !!

Medgem was ONLY reimbursable by medicare if it was done under a doctor's direct

supervision. Private practice dietitians would not be reimbursed. I know from

personal experience.

Hill, MS,RD,LD/N

Stuart, Florida

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you

want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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We use it at UW in our outpatient department. Our billing department requests

that we have an MD order for it (they all say yes and frequently refer to us for

the service). We tell patients the charge and code and have them check with

their insurance carrier. No one has complained about reimbursement as of yet.

Judy Simon

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you

for taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if

you want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code

94690. Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private

healthcare insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined

to provide " best practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight

management then you must have a product that accurately produces a true

measured value rather than just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham <klinkrbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:klinkrb%40sbcglobal.net> net>

wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart <stuartwallachism (DOT) <mailto:stuart%40wallachism.com> com>

wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you

know it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right

and centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually

works, you are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested

at all.

Hollie Majewski <jewski79hotmail (DOT) <mailto:jewski79%40hotmail.com> com>

wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone

have any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance?

Grants? Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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what kind of facility is that? is that a clinic? long term care? Acute?

If this is acute care - you want to show them the length of stay and obesity

and co-morbidities and length of stay associated with obesity. Hospitals are

paid according to length of stay. The shorter the better.

for each Dx there is a max length of stay which beyond the carrier won't pay and

hospital loses money. To begin with, generally speaking, hospitals are

struggling these days.

Show them the money.

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you

want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham > wrote:

Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart > wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski > wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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Just to confirm the statement: Hospitals are struggling these days..

In my hospital, 7 management positions were elliminated in the past week in

order to meet budget cuts.

Jillian , RD, LD/N

Merav Levi- wrote:

what kind of facility is that? is that a clinic? long term care? Acute?

If this is acute care - you want to show them the length of stay and obesity

and co-morbidities and length of stay associated with obesity. Hospitals are

paid according to length of stay. The shorter the better.

for each Dx there is a max length of stay which beyond the carrier won't pay

and hospital loses money. To begin with, generally speaking, hospitals are

struggling these days.

Show them the money.

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you

want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham > wrote: Rest

Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart > wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski > wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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thanks for the clarification. They failed to mentioned that. Do you know about

this one. is the same? Same type of test.

Hill Nutrition wrote: Carefull !!

Medgem was ONLY reimbursable by medicare if it was done under a doctor's direct

supervision. Private practice dietitians would not be reimbursed. I know from

personal experience.

Hill, MS,RD,LD/N

Stuart, Florida

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you for

taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I have

extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if you want

to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjones@... or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code 94690.

Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private healthcare

insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined to provide " best

practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight management then you

must have a product that accurately produces a true measured value rather than

just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to help

you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to hearing

from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect calorimeter

by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjones@...

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you know

it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right and

centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually works, you

are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested at all.

Hollie Majewski wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone have

any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance? Grants?

Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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for those being reimbursed by Medicare. What is the structure of your

department? Is it considered a " Physican's Office " ?

Judy Simon wrote: We use it at UW in our

outpatient department. Our billing department requests that we have an MD order

for it (they all say yes and frequently refer to us for the service). We tell

patients the charge and code and have them check with their insurance carrier.

No one has complained about reimbursement as of yet.

Judy Simon

Re: weight management

It was a pleasure to meet you at the ADA / FNCE show in Hawaii; thank you

for taking the time to visit with me.

Because of the high interest and demand for the KORR indirect calorimeter I

have extended the show special for the next two weeks. Please let me know if

you want to participate in this special offer by contacting me by email at

bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com or 800 895-4048 ext 117.

The ReeVue is an FDA approved product and is reimbursable with CPT code

94690. Medicare is paying a national average of $73.05 per test and private

healthcare insurance also reimburses at a high rate. If you are determined

to provide " best practices " for your clinic and patients regarding weight

management then you must have a product that accurately produces a true

measured value rather than just a predicted equation.

If you need help with financing this purchase, I have a variety of plans to

help you obtain this instrument with no finance charges. I look forward to

hearing from you and again thanks for your interest in the ReeVue indirect

calorimeter by KORR Medical Technologies, the Recognized Leader in Metabolic

Testing.

Best regards,

Brent

Director of Sales

KORR Medical Technologies

2463 South 3850 West #200

Salt Lake City, Utah 84120

Phone 801 483-3080 ext 117

Toll Free 800 895-4048 ext 117

Email: bjoneskorr (DOT) <mailto:bjones%40korr.com> com

Website www.korr.com

Kathy Bingham <klinkrbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:klinkrb%40sbcglobal.net> net>

wrote: Rest Metabolism Rate!

Every one wants to know the metabolism, this will give it to you. Great

marketing for you, $$$ for the facility.

Do it with a % body fat and you'll have a complete picture

Stuart <stuartwallachism (DOT) <mailto:stuart%40wallachism.com> com>

wrote:

All you have to do is offer something new which promise quick, simple and

effortless results, (preferably which places an emphasis on the patient not

being respoinsible or at fault for their own predicament) and before you

know it, the patients themselves will be throwing money at you left, right

and centre. If however you had ideas of proposing something that actually

works, you are going to find it very difficult for anyone to be interested

at all.

Hollie Majewski <jewski79hotmail (DOT) <mailto:jewski79%40hotmail.com> com>

wrote:

Hello All,

I have a question about initiating a weight loss/maintenance program at my

facility in a hospital outpatient setting. I am planning on getting my

certification in weight management and wanted to start a program, but the

facility isn't on board unless they see some financial benefit. Does anyone

have any resources or references for this? Can it be covered by insurance?

Grants? Out of pocket?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Hollie

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