Guest guest Posted August 31, 2011 Report Share Posted August 31, 2011 Hi Deb, I always energy test my dosages, but when I am having bad Ammonia issues I usually take two capsules along with the LOrnithine, LAspartate about a gram of the powder in water. > > > > Hi Suzy, > > > > I am curious if you have tried BH4 by Ecological Formulas? I have the Dr. Cowden Laser Detox Therapy DVDs and a doctor who was presenting on the Amy Yasko protocol, said that she was so toxic when she went to Dr. Cowden for Laser Detox, that he said she was too sick and toxic to Detox. She started taking pharmaceutical BH4 to help with Ammonia problems and she is completely better. It really turned her problems around. Unfortunately, the only place to get Pharmaceutical BH4 is from Germany and you must have a prescription for it. However, there is a homeopathic version made by Ecological Formulas that you might try. I would also take a lot of Ammonia support products, NH4 Redox by Ecological Formulas and L Ornithine, L Aspartate work best for me and I have tried them all because the coil machine really causes a lot of Ammonia problems due to die off. Anyway if I take enough of these two products I am able to sleep and the Neurological pain in my legs that tends to keep me awake at night when I am herxing gets much better allowing me to sleep. I also really love a product called Slumberease that comes in a little dropper bottle. I put about 1/3 of a dropper full under my tongue and it really helps. I would also recommend having a NAET treatment on Ammonia, Sulphur and Quinolinic Acid. The Neuro pain goes away when I clear Ammonia even though it is only temporary. It might give you a much needed reprieve from pain. Just some thoughts on things that have helped me. Another thing that has helped me sleep is a small magnetic pulsing device called the Biomedici. I place it under my pillow at night and it stimulates the bodies production of Melatonin. It is relatively inexpensive $150.00 and you can find it at www.magnetictherapycure.com > > > > Take care and hang in there, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Jim, boy am I behind in emails....quite a fall flareup happening for me,,,,feeling really yukk. I like your idea of soaking ones feet in magnesium. I'm going to try that tonight, while i'm sitting and eating dindin. Otherwise, I just don't seem to be able to get enough on me, what with me wearing lots of clothes most of the time. Hey,,,,it's actually warming up here, first time all summer. Guess I oughta be slattering myself with mag, but think I'll wait till closer to bed time! warmly, Suzy Hey Suzy! Now I don't stay up all night anymore! I have no problems getting to sleep, just sometimes 3 - 5 hours later I awaken and may not get back to sleep so quickly... Binaural beats seem to work, but if they don't, I am up for a few hours :-(((( I think that computer program that eliminates blue light as darkness falls is going to be a real winner for us insomniacs... Blue light is what dumps the melatonin in the brain, thus we don't want to sleep... As I am typing now, no blue lights, thus the melatonin in my brain is still there!! Also, get yourself a pair of blue blocker sunglasses and wear them in the house after the sun goes down, any kind of light causes the brain to dump melatonin.. Before we had electricity, humans awoke at sunrise, fell asleep at sunset, so they didn't have the issues we have today... An I know Lyme only makes this worse.. Well it is warm here in Jax, actually this year we had 44 days in a row over 90 degrees, most were over 95! Last time the records showed this much heat was in 1871! And that was the last time Jax had a direct hit hurricane! You don't want to put clothing over the mag oil, unless you like washing clothes! It won't hurt the mag oil, but it could be messy... But you can apply it as many times as you like daily, just allow it to stay on for 20 - 30 minutes, then wipe off with a wet cloth, towel dry. Then you can apply again.. Building mag levels using mag oil is the best way as mag oil is highly absorbed by the body, and since it is also mag chloride, we get plenty of chloride which is necessary for good health... Another thing you can do is use a foot bath, place 1 - 2 ounces of mag oil in a few inches of warm water, allow a 30 minute soak... You can also do this as many times as you like daily... I would suggest you apply your last dose of mag oil close to bedtime as this does help with sleep.... I then shower it off and it really does help bring sleep for me. I also use L-Tryptophan and melatonin supps... And if that does not put me to sleep, then I use the Binarual beat music, it works about 90% of the time.. I leave it on for 1 hour but I am usually asleep in 5 - 10 minutes.. Now don't start telling me about that nice cool weather you are having! Right about now I am ready for a cool-down! It's been so hot for so long! I never complain about the heat, well I am this year :-) So looney tune, I hope something I've suggested gets you some zzzz's!! Jim! Extreme Insomnia - neurotoxicity - Suggestions? Message List Reply | Delete Message #27470 of 27486 < Prev | Next > Re: Re: OT: Extreme Insomnia - neurotoxicity - Suggestions? hiya dear Jim, back then, during our digeridoo days, we had a pretty fine game of insomnia badmitten going on, hitting that birdy over the net and....it's YOUR turn to stay up all night humming songs with the moon. leave it to Jim to come up with some brand new insomnia miraclescures!!! i've never heard of blue light blockers, so i got to work right away, and downloaded that program for my puter here. now it's glowing sorta pinky yellowy like a very very faint nearlyetheric peach! i like it. and maybe even, i'll sleep sound till morning now. thanks pal! one thing i wonder about, is how one really slathers that much magnesium oil all over a body that is covered with so many layers and layers of clothing. now maybe in florida, you don't need so many layers, but around here, in chilly coastal california, we're having the coolest summer i ever remember! i've hardly taken off my winter coat, and keep wishing we hadn't run out of dry wood for our stove. so covering my body with sticky magnesium oil, and then putting on all those layers of clothes on top... well, it's goshdarn STICKY!!! do you have any suggestions? i end up mostly rolling up my shirtsleeves and using my arms as receptacles, but right now as i type....i'm getting pools of magnesium oil all over my keyboard. hopefully my computer is getting VERY RELAXED!!! OK, time to get turn this computer off and get quiet,,,,ask that SAndman to come find me with an extra big bucket of his most slumberrich sweet zzzzzs. i'm turning into quite a loony tune.... being ON buzzbuzzjust about all the timeall the time!!!!!! eeeeeeeeeeeek!!!! may many sweethealing dreams find us all tonight, Suzy Hey Suzy, I think I caught insomnia from you... :-) Way back then I was dealing with "some" insomnia, then one day it just got to its worst... I just posted about this to Barbara, just a few posts before this one... Suggestions I made to her I am actually using every night to combat insomnia... Wear blue blocker sunglasses in the house when the sun goes down... Using the "flux" blue light blocker software, seems to work on all computers.. Sleep with a sleeping mask, this way no light can destroy the serotonin/melatonin my brain has produced that day.. Even a tiny dot of light can eliminate the melatonin.. Taking L-Tryptophan and magnesium oil every night. And use Binaural Beat music as needed... I used to use it all of the time.. I even take some melatonin, not sure if it is helping or not, but I know it is not hurting.. I still don't sleep 100% but I am far better than when I was at my worst.. If the magnesium is wearing off, you may still be magnesium deficient. On a typical day, I use 160 sprays of 100% mag oil... Gotta remember, the Lyme bacteria consumes some of it daily from us. You can use multiple applications daily if you wish.. If you do have sleep apnea, you may need to see a doctor and get a C-Pap machine, these help you breath while you are sleeping. My neighbor had a terrible time sleeping until he got his C-Pap.... Well your digeridoo is not alone! Mine has its own corner... :-) Wasn't this helping you sleep at one time? If so, may be worth dusting the ole gal off and playing it again.. As I recall, you were going to be the band leader... :-) Good the Qi Gong is helping... I try to find things that help a symptom of two and then stick with it if it works.. Lyme isn't about getting better all at once, it is about ridding one symptom at a time.... Then hopefully one day there are no symptoms left! I would imagine not breathing well and then breathing well again is a good feeling... Since this symptom is much better and you are feeling better, time to pick another symptom and go after it.. Are you getting out into the sunshine every day? No sunscreens, no sunglasses, as much skin showing as possible, 15 - 30 minutes between Noon and 2:00PM... This is so healthy, everyone with a chronic illness should do this... One day and one symptom at a time Suzy...... Really nice hearing from you! Jim Extreme Insomnia - neurotoxicity - Suggestions? Message List Reply | Delete Message #27363 of 27397 < Prev | Next > Re: Re: Extreme Insomnia - neurotoxicity - Suggestions? hiya Jim! so nice to hear from you too, and as always, thanks for your kind helping suggestions and big heart! I've been so down, so sick and stuck, I guess I've just needed to be with myself quiet for a time. I got to this place where i felt backed up against a wall with no new ideas, and a lot of hopelessness. the insomnia has flattened me, disabled everything about me. the magnesium is about the best thing I've found, but no matter how much I swallow, and slather all over me, it still seems to wear off after about 3 hours, and I'm back to lying around staring at the ceiling, near paralyzed with muscle spasms inside and out. i can barely breathe from the tightness in my gut, back, diaphragm, ribcage etc, and guess i'm suffering from daytime/nighttime waking/sleep apnea! my poor ole digeridoo has been languishing in a corner ever since we brought home our puppy (who's hair stood on end whenever I honked on it:) 4 years ago! The binural beat music,,,yes I have some, at your recommendation, on my mp3 player. and yes, sometimes it helps,,,but so often, i'm just so spazed out, toxic, spotlightbrained, bugs creeppycrawly outmy chinfacearmslegs bellylikeahardROCK, painall up and down spineneckeverywhere....You know the story!!!! We all do here!!!! I don't detox well at all, and am so toxic. eeek! any time I touch something that kills bugs the insomnia flattens me so big I have to stop... I'm currently again trying MMS. i inch my way up to 2 drops, and always have to stop just to get back to sleeping 2 or 3 hours a night. Qi Gong. that is currently feeling really good. It's about the best thing I've found to help me breathe, and breathing helps all of me feel better! what a godsend it is! and all of you too! what a wondrous group you all are! thankyou for being, and sharing the way you do. I'm listening with appreciation, to your collective wisdom and kind hearts. warmly, Suzy On 8/26/2011 6:50 PM, jimjax2 wrote: Hi Suzy! It is so good to hear from you... :-) Have you tried using Binarual Beat music, Delta wave? I find that using L-Tryptophan and magnesium oil are very helpful at getting me to sleep, but once I awaken 4-5 hours later, falling back asleep can be a challenge... Then I turn on my MP3 player and set the timer for 1 hour and listen to my Delta wave music, I am usually sleeping in 5 - 10 minutes, sometimes even quicker.. I also take 3 mg of time released Melatonin before going to bed and take another 3 mg of Melatonin fast release once I awaken... These few things seem to really help. If you would like more info on Binaural Beat music, just let me know and I will post it for you... Delta wave music is proven to enduce sleep.. Stop being such a stranger... :-) Jim > > > > I am looking for some help for my wife. She has been battling severe > > insomnia caused by neurotoixicity from Lyme for almost two years. She > > has tried every OTC option, Rxs, chinese herbs, acupuncture...you name > > it. And nothing has touched it what-so-ever. She recently had a brain > > map done and it showed signs of extreme toxicity in her brain. The > > doctor's suggestion was detox, detox, detox. > > > > For the past couple of months she has been doing daily coffee enemas > > (2 per day for the past 2 weeks), taking multiple detox drops (burbur, > > parsley, pinella, sparga), cholestyramine, daily detox baths (either > > epsom salts, hydrogen peroxide or apple cider vinegar) and has done 2 > > separate liver flushes (in the past 3 weeks)...and none of this has > > helped her sleep. > > > > On an "average" night she will get 1-3 broken hours of sleep - and > > that only happens about 3 nights a week. On the other 4 nights she > > will get 0-2 broken hours of sleep. She has far too many nights with > > not a single second of sleep. This has been going on for nearly two years. > > > > Has anyone else experienced this severe of insomnia? How have you > > found relief? Has anyone dealt with trying to lower known > > neurotoxicity? Know of any other detox techniques? > > > > Any and all help would be much appreciated. The extreme lack of sleep > > is really taking it's toll on her physically and mentally, and we are > > in desperate need of some help. Thank you. > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3877 - Release Date: 09/04/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi again , I'm pretty slow researching and ordering stuff, what with so much constant insomnia fuzz brain,, but I'm definitely ready to try something new to help with the constant headbody spotlight brain! Do you have a favorite place for ordering BH4, Nh4, and Slumberease,,,,I'd like to give them a try! No problem if you don't have a specific place you like, I'll wait for a clearer brain day, and do some more sleuthing. thanks again for your help, Suzy Hi Suzy, I am curious if you have tried BH4 by Ecological Formulas? I have the Dr. Cowden Laser Detox Therapy DVDs and a doctor who was presenting on the Amy Yasko protocol, said that she was so toxic when she went to Dr. Cowden for Laser Detox, that he said she was too sick and toxic to Detox. She started taking pharmaceutical BH4 to help with Ammonia problems and she is completely better. It really turned her problems around. Unfortunately, the only place to get Pharmaceutical BH4 is from Germany and you must have a prescription for it. However, there is a homeopathic version made by Ecological Formulas that you might try. I would also take a lot of Ammonia support products, NH4 Redox by Ecological Formulas and L Ornithine, L Aspartate work best for me and I have tried them all because the coil machine really causes a lot of Ammonia problems due to die off. Anyway if I take enough of these two products I am able to sleep and the Neurological pain in my legs that tends to keep me awake at night when I am herxing gets much better allowing me to sleep. I also really love a product called Slumberease that comes in a little dropper bottle. I put about 1/3 of a dropper full under my tongue and it really helps. I would also recommend having a NAET treatment on Ammonia, Sulphur and Quinolinic Acid. The Neuro pain goes away when I clear Ammonia even though it is only temporary. It might give you a much needed reprieve from pain. Just some thoughts on things that have helped me. Another thing that has helped me sleep is a small magnetic pulsing device called the Biomedici. I place it under my pillow at night and it stimulates the bodies production of Melatonin. It is relatively inexpensive $150.00 and you can find it at www.magnetictherapycure.com Take care and hang in there, > >> > > >> > I am looking for some help for my wife. She has been battling severe > >> > insomnia caused by neurotoixicity from Lyme for almost two years. She > >> > has tried every OTC option, Rxs, chinese herbs, acupuncture...you name > >> > it. And nothing has touched it what-so-ever. She recently had a brain > >> > map done and it showed signs of extreme toxicity in her brain. The > >> > doctor's suggestion was detox, detox, detox. > >> > > >> > For the past couple of months she has been doing daily coffee enemas > >> > (2 per day for the past 2 weeks), taking multiple detox drops (burbur, > >> > parsley, pinella, sparga), cholestyramine, daily detox baths (either > >> > epsom salts, hydrogen peroxide or apple cider vinegar) and has done 2 > >> > separate liver flushes (in the past 3 weeks)...and none of this has > >> > helped her sleep. > >> > > >> > On an "average" night she will get 1-3 broken hours of sleep - and > >> > that only happens about 3 nights a week. On the other 4 nights she > >> > will get 0-2 broken hours of sleep. She has far too many nights with > >> > not a single second of sleep. This has been going on for nearly two years. > >> > > >> > Has anyone else experienced this severe of insomnia? How have you > >> > found relief? Has anyone dealt with trying to lower known > >> > neurotoxicity? Know of any other detox techniques? > >> > > >> > Any and all help would be much appreciated. The extreme lack of sleep > >> > is really taking it's toll on her physically and mentally, and we are > >> > in desperate need of some help. Thank you. > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > No virus found in this message. > >> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > >> > Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3853 - Release Date: 08/23/11 > >> > > >> > > > > > >No virus found in this message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3859 - Release Date: 08/26/11 > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3867 - Release Date: 08/30/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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