Re: Re: Bartonella - frequencies

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Hi, I have had Fibro for 30 yrs. Dx with EBV, Myco. pn. Chlamydia pn, and candida on lab tests in '05, along with CFS and CFID. Dx with Lyme, Bart., Babs., all clinical diagnosis in '07.  I experience a good herx with each on my D. coil.  Also, I herx with XMRV, Myco. Ferm., and something else I can't remember-if they had a freq. for memory loss I know I would really herx for that also.  

I went through, with a LLMD, 18 months abx cocktail and other meds to make those meds work better and others to treat Babs and Bart.  Nothing worked.  I started coiling for the Bart first and then Babs because they were giving me severe symptoms.  I have coiled for Bart until there were no herxes, complete body 2x day using 832.  While i continued with this, with no herxes, i added the Babs, 570, complete body 1x day.  I was 'married to my machine'.  After 2 yrs of coiling, and no herxing, my symptoms, though slightly less, still remain.  

This last April I had to stop coiling for several months due to a bad withdrawal from Klonipin, nearly died. After this time i could feel these symptoms increasing.  When i resumed coiling for Bart. to see if it was still there, the herxes came back as if I had never coiled for it.  Haven't tried the Babs. yet as I want to get the Bart under control again.  I talked to and he said just keep coiling, i'm doing it right. 

I have posted my symptoms before a long time ago, but will restate them.  Since early 2000's I started having a set of symptoms every 30 minutes, 24/7, just like 'Old Faithful.  They started with anxiety, air hunger, nausea, irregular heart beats, feelings of having to lie down or I would die, severe sweating to the point of my glasses fogging up and my skin wet.  Then between these, i would break out in chills with goose bumps and shivers. Eating was a challenge. This is true, no exaggeration.  The only thing that would ease these symptoms was marijuana--i'm legal in med. mj state.  The Klonipin I had been prescribed in '07 helped with sleep so i slept through them but they returned in a.m.  I also have most of the other traditional lyme symptoms, fatigue, brain fog, confusion, etc.

When I got to the point of no herxing while coiling, i had the majority of the heart palps and air hunger down to minimum, if i did nothing physical.  My plans, before having to break for the Klonipin withdrawal, was to, while not herxing with bart and babs, was to add the lyme freq. to get started on that long trek. Then slowly add the the m. ferm. freq.  At this point I would still like to do this because I would consider that these symptoms can also come from another of the other infections, because many of the symptoms  match, but I still herx from bart. ( and probably babs when i restart coiling for that too).

Even if other infections are causing some of these symptoms, the symptoms must still be coming from  bart, (maybe babs)--because i'm still herxing from bart.  am i thinking rightly in this?  If you are herxing the infection must remain, right?  so what do i do?

All this explanation for the ? of, is 832 not working?  do I have a different strain?  would the DNA freq. help?  I feel like i am spinning my wheels here.  I have begun detoxing with juicing, home colonix, coffee enemas.  My gut does not move by itself so have used 6,000mg. vit c, oxy plus for magnesium plus extra mag., eat as well as possible. 

Again, am i missing a strain of bart that herxes with 832, but misses to kill the other strain?  Do I need to move on and also treat for other things while still coiling for 832?  Will the DNA freq. catch another strain?  

Open to suggestion and need help.  confused. Do i need to add another protocol.  Have considered mms, not sure about it yet.  also am looking at s/c, but not certain.  i get so confused, not only with lyme but having to deal with the tapering from the klonipin crossover to valium and now tapering off that, hard to make decisions.  But i do wonder about the coiling on 832 missing a strain. 

thx  barbara

 

I have Bartonella and been having good effects using 2 DNA frequencies. I live in Canda and there are several people here whom all have been using the DNA frequencies which is where I heard about them. I will be changing to the DNA frequencies for mycoplasma and Babesia soon.

DNA Pathogen Frequencies

Human Pathogens

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/store/index.pl?type=human

DNA Pathogen Frequencies Explanation

How these frequencies kill at the DNA level

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/about.shtml

blessings

Shan

>

> Hi group,

>

> Looking to start working on bartonella. I know the most used or spoken of frequency for bart is 832. But on the CAFL it isn't listed. What has worked for most people? Would like to begin working on that as no reaction to lyme anymore, but huge bart symptoms now.

>

> With the coil, do I try one frequency for like 15 seconds and wait a few days (what is the herx time avg for bart?) and if nothing then up it a bit, etc. until after 3 tries on the frequency and no hits, switch? Just thinking it could take forever to figure that out...

>

> Thanks,

> Jodie

>

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I would try the MOPA addition of the GB4000 and do the sweeps in addition to getting the new DNA freqs, and using H202 enemas, and drinking AFTER you read: Dr Donsbach's Hydrogen Peroxide book and Ed McCabe's book " Flood Your body with Oxygen. The H202 has really helped me and am still experimenting with the freqs. I also take an aloe derivitive, manapol, moducare, Klaire Interfase to bust biofilms, artemisinin, Mr. Oxygen's Oxysulfer (from the oxygen book above), magnesium flakes with himalyan sea salt, chlorella and find a way to get Dr. Klinghardt's Lyme cocktail protocals from www.biopureus.com

Kind of intense and expensive, but it is a real solid program. Blessings.

 

Hi, I have had Fibro for 30 yrs. Dx with EBV, Myco. pn. Chlamydia pn, and candida on lab tests in '05, along with CFS and CFID. Dx with Lyme, Bart., Babs., all clinical diagnosis in '07.  I experience a good herx with each on my D. coil.  Also, I herx with XMRV, Myco. Ferm., and something else I can't remember-if they had a freq. for memory loss I know I would really herx for that also.  

I went through, with a LLMD, 18 months abx cocktail and other meds to make those meds work better and others to treat Babs and Bart.  Nothing worked.  I started coiling for the Bart first and then Babs because they were giving me severe symptoms.  I have coiled for Bart until there were no herxes, complete body 2x day using 832.  While i continued with this, with no herxes, i added the Babs, 570, complete body 1x day.  I was 'married to my machine'.  After 2 yrs of coiling, and no herxing, my symptoms, though slightly less, still remain.  

This last April I had to stop coiling for several months due to a bad withdrawal from Klonipin, nearly died. After this time i could feel these symptoms increasing.  When i resumed coiling for Bart. to see if it was still there, the herxes came back as if I had never coiled for it.  Haven't tried the Babs. yet as I want to get the Bart under control again.  I talked to and he said just keep coiling, i'm doing it right. 

I have posted my symptoms before a long time ago, but will restate them.  Since early 2000's I started having a set of symptoms every 30 minutes, 24/7, just like 'Old Faithful.  They started with anxiety, air hunger, nausea, irregular heart beats, feelings of having to lie down or I would die, severe sweating to the point of my glasses fogging up and my skin wet.  Then between these, i would break out in chills with goose bumps and shivers. Eating was a challenge. This is true, no exaggeration.  The only thing that would ease these symptoms was marijuana--i'm legal in med. mj state.  The Klonipin I had been prescribed in '07 helped with sleep so i slept through them but they returned in a.m.  I also have most of the other traditional lyme symptoms, fatigue, brain fog, confusion, etc.

When I got to the point of no herxing while coiling, i had the majority of the heart palps and air hunger down to minimum, if i did nothing physical.  My plans, before having to break for the Klonipin withdrawal, was to, while not herxing with bart and babs, was to add the lyme freq. to get started on that long trek. Then slowly add the the m. ferm. freq.  At this point I would still like to do this because I would consider that these symptoms can also come from another of the other infections, because many of the symptoms  match, but I still herx from bart. ( and probably babs when i restart coiling for that too).

Even if other infections are causing some of these symptoms, the symptoms must still be coming from  bart, (maybe babs)--because i'm still herxing from bart.  am i thinking rightly in this?  If you are herxing the infection must remain, right?  so what do i do?

All this explanation for the ? of, is 832 not working?  do I have a different strain?  would the DNA freq. help?  I feel like i am spinning my wheels here.  I have begun detoxing with juicing, home colonix, coffee enemas.  My gut does not move by itself so have used 6,000mg. vit c, oxy plus for magnesium plus extra mag., eat as well as possible. 

Again, am i missing a strain of bart that herxes with 832, but misses to kill the other strain?  Do I need to move on and also treat for other things while still coiling for 832?  Will the DNA freq. catch another strain?  

Open to suggestion and need help.  confused. Do i need to add another protocol.  Have considered mms, not sure about it yet.  also am looking at s/c, but not certain.  i get so confused, not only with lyme but having to deal with the tapering from the klonipin crossover to valium and now tapering off that, hard to make decisions.  But i do wonder about the coiling on 832 missing a strain. 

thx  barbara

 

I have Bartonella and been having good effects using 2 DNA frequencies. I live in Canda and there are several people here whom all have been using the DNA frequencies which is where I heard about them. I will be changing to the DNA frequencies for mycoplasma and Babesia soon.

DNA Pathogen Frequencies

Human Pathogens

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/store/index.pl?type=human

DNA Pathogen Frequencies Explanation

How these frequencies kill at the DNA level

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/about.shtml

blessings

Shan

>

> Hi group,

>

> Looking to start working on bartonella. I know the most used or spoken of frequency for bart is 832. But on the CAFL it isn't listed. What has worked for most people? Would like to begin working on that as no reaction to lyme anymore, but huge bart symptoms now.

>

> With the coil, do I try one frequency for like 15 seconds and wait a few days (what is the herx time avg for bart?) and if nothing then up it a bit, etc. until after 3 tries on the frequency and no hits, switch? Just thinking it could take forever to figure that out...

>

> Thanks,

> Jodie

>