Re: Bionics 880 Correction to my previous post

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I said that the Photon light therapy is definitely at a lower level of

Herxheimer reaction then the coil and after thinking about this, this is not

accurate. It can be very intense if you photon too long on any given

acupuncture point. I do not photon any longer then 6 seconds on any given point

and even this amount of time could send others over the edge. Once again it is

all about knowing what your body can tolerate. People in the Bionic group have

gotten into excessive herxing trouble photoning too long.

This is a very powerful tool and should also be treated with great respect as is

the coil. I do ART testing on the settings and the length of time that I should

photon. If you don't know how to energetically test, then it is a good idea to

either learn or find someone who can do this for you. There are folks in the

group that don't test, but Dr. Woitzel really recommends it. The folks that

don't test just experiment with the different settings and the amount of time

running the unit. I hope this helps and good luck

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> > I am trying to find anyone who knows more about Dr. W and the Bionic 880.

We have used a coil for our 14 year old son for Bart and the Herx was so bad

that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880 is easier on

the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success with this

approach? Thanks

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,Is the photon light a bright light?

 

I said that the Photon light therapy is definitely at a lower level of Herxheimer reaction then the coil and after thinking about this, this is not accurate. It can be very intense if you photon too long on any given acupuncture point. I do not photon any longer then 6 seconds on any given point and even this amount of time could send others over the edge. Once again it is all about knowing what your body can tolerate. People in the Bionic group have gotten into excessive herxing trouble photoning too long.

This is a very powerful tool and should also be treated with great respect as is the coil. I do ART testing on the settings and the length of time that I should photon. If you don't know how to energetically test, then it is a good idea to either learn or find someone who can do this for you. There are folks in the group that don't test, but Dr. Woitzel really recommends it. The folks that don't test just experiment with the different settings and the amount of time running the unit. I hope this helps and good luck

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Not really.

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> > > > I am trying to find anyone who knows more about Dr. W and the Bionic

> > 880. We have used a coil for our 14 year old son for Bart and the Herx was

> > so bad that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880 is

> > easier on the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success with

> > this approach? Thanks

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Thanks. I've been trying to find an intensely bright light to do some experimenting with. I've been reading a bit about how subjecting cells to bright light can bring healing.  I haven't really had the time to do the research though. And I'm doing OK on my protocol.

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Not really.

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> > > > I am trying to find anyone who knows more about Dr. W and the Bionic

> > 880. We have used a coil for our 14 year old son for Bart and the Herx was

> > so bad that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880 is

> > easier on the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success with

> > this approach? Thanks

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One other comment about excessive herxing is that even people on Antibiotic

therapies get into terrible herxing. I would recommend that you watch the movie

Under Our Skin and watch how the young married couple go through treating Lyme

with Abx. The young wife herxes so bad that she is in a fetal position on the

couch, but eventually comes out the other side. You must pace any treatment so

that you herx, but not to the point of being disabled by them. I know not

everyone agrees with me on this but I believe " No pain, No gain "

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> > > I am trying to find anyone who knows more about Dr. W and the Bionic 880.

We have used a coil for our 14 year old son for Bart and the Herx was so bad

that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880 is easier on

the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success with this

approach? Thanks

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Hi ,

If you go over to the Electroherbalism Yahoo group. Many in that group have

experimented with using a green laser light with Nosodes to detox. If you

google Laser Detox therapy, there is a video on Youtube by a doctor in Florida

that does it and it is fascinating. He claims that it signals the body to detox

within 24 hours. This therapy is based on the one that Cowden uses. You can

buy a 532 NM green laser pen on Ebay for cheap. Dr Klinghardt believes that

photons are more forgiving then green laser and recommends patients use a photon

device rather then a laser which he believes should be reserved for

practitioners. I think it is okay to experiment with as long as you know that

there is a greater potential to have a massive herxheimer reaction if you aren't

careful then there is with the photons. Also you really need to have a second

person shine the laser through the vial at you. It is impossible to do this

therapy on your own. The electroherbalism group made a laser pen holder out of

a copper plumbing T. They would put the vial into the top of the T and put the

laser in the bottom of the T allowing the laser light to penetrate the vial and

then the laser is shined at various points around the body. If you watch the

video, you will get the idea.

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> > > > so bad that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880

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> > > > easier on the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success

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which photon light is best for lyme or cancer

 

I said that the Photon light therapy is definitely at a lower level of Herxheimer reaction then the coil and after thinking about this, this is not accurate. It can be very intense if you photon too long on any given acupuncture point. I do not photon any longer then 6 seconds on any given point and even this amount of time could send others over the edge. Once again it is all about knowing what your body can tolerate. People in the Bionic group have gotten into excessive herxing trouble photoning too long.

This is a very powerful tool and should also be treated with great respect as is the coil. I do ART testing on the settings and the length of time that I should photon. If you don't know how to energetically test, then it is a good idea to either learn or find someone who can do this for you. There are folks in the group that don't test, but Dr. Woitzel really recommends it. The folks that don't test just experiment with the different settings and the amount of time running the unit. I hope this helps and good luck

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It depends on what you want to do with it. If you want it to use with Nosodes,

then I would buy the PE 1. If you are strictly looking at a light to help your

lymphatic drainage, then perhaps the photon genie. I prefer the PE 1 because it

is more diverse in what it can do and is much cheaper and the customer support

is great. The customer support for photon genie is not so great unless you

catch them in a good mood.

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> > > > I am trying to find anyone who knows more about Dr. W and the Bionic

> > 880. We have used a coil for our 14 year old son for Bart and the Herx was

> > so bad that he is reluctant to do it again. Any idea of the Bionic 880 is

> > easier on the body? Faster? Anyone know anyone who achieved any success with

> > this approach? Thanks

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