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In a message dated 8/11/99 2:38:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, elva@...

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<< This is a live and learn experience, and now I will stick to ice water for

sure, and have a salad if I am out someplace and starving...

>>

OR you can go ahead and order a double cheeseburger and throw away the bread

or make that a couple of double cheeseburgers! = )

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> I almost fainted at that huge number. I am so upset I wasn't even gonna post

> this but got thinking that maybe my

> experience will save someone else from having a McWrap....>>>

Elva,

Jeez, what a story.. I'm glad you posted the story...but what exactly is a

McWrap.?? Since it starts with " Mc " I know it's MC's but guess I've missed

the commercial for it.

Hope your numbers have returned to normal.

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The Mcwrap probably has a mayonnaise baised dressing, which is additional

carbs. Grilled fish or grilled chicken (or sandwich with them) would have

been better.

oh man, what a disaster...

>

>

>Hi Gang,

>Well today I was out with my son and it got to be mid-afternoon and I was

>really hungry as brekkie was at 7:30. What to have???? Damn I hate

>restaurants, it's so hard to choose when you dont really have a clue how

>things are prepared. As it was over an hour til we'd get home, we went to

>Mcs. Bad move...I had a garden salad McWrap and a diet Coke. I

>hate diet Coke but the other choice was ice water. I wanted something with

>flavour. I said - I know this sounds odd, but I am serious, is there any

>chance the diet Coke dispenser is hooked up to the regular Coke line?

>Absolutely not they said! Ok, gimme a diet Coke. 2 hrs later at home I

>check my blood and its at 14.0! I almost fainted at that huge number. I

>am so upset I wasn't even gonna post this but got thinking that maybe my

>experience will save someone else from having a McWrap. I really thought

>that a McWrap would be better than a burger but apparently not...looks like

>salad for dinner tonite, and maybe some sugar free jello. I havent seen a

>number that high since back when first diagnosed.

>

>Please dont give me any speeches about the wraps being full of carbs, I

>have figured that out! I knew they would be fairly high, like 2 pcs of

>bread, I figured, but I was shocked...and maybe the pop was the regular

kind.

>

>This is a live and learn experience, and now I will stick to ice water for

>sure, and have a salad if I am out someplace and starving...

>

>Elva in Ontario

>

>Visit the British Saloon Car Club of Canada at:

>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7967

>

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Elva - how high was it? 140 or 1400? I am sure that i read this wrong --

nancy

At 05:30 PM 8/11/99 +0000, you wrote:

>

>

>Hi Gang,

>Well today I was out with my son and it got to be mid-afternoon and I was

>really hungry as brekkie was at 7:30. What to have???? Damn I hate

>restaurants, it's so hard to choose when you dont really have a clue how

>things are prepared. As it was over an hour til we'd get home, we went to

>Mcs. Bad move...I had a garden salad McWrap and a diet Coke. I

>hate diet Coke but the other choice was ice water. I wanted something with

>flavour. I said - I know this sounds odd, but I am serious, is there any

>chance the diet Coke dispenser is hooked up to the regular Coke line?

>Absolutely not they said! Ok, gimme a diet Coke. 2 hrs later at home I

>check my blood and its at 14.0! I almost fainted at that huge number. I

>am so upset I wasn't even gonna post this but got thinking that maybe my

>experience will save someone else from having a McWrap. I really thought

>that a McWrap would be better than a burger but apparently not...looks like

>salad for dinner tonite, and maybe some sugar free jello. I havent seen a

>number that high since back when first diagnosed.

>

>Please dont give me any speeches about the wraps being full of carbs, I

>have figured that out! I knew they would be fairly high, like 2 pcs of

>bread, I figured, but I was shocked...and maybe the pop was the regular kind.

>

>This is a live and learn experience, and now I will stick to ice water for

>sure, and have a salad if I am out someplace and starving...

>

>Elva in Ontario

>

>Visit the British Saloon Car Club of Canada at:

>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7967

>

>---------------------------

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Salad Dressing has carbs but Mayo, real mayo, does not! Toni

Bill Eastman wrote:

>

>

> The Mcwrap probably has a mayonnaise baised dressing, which is additional

> carbs. Grilled fish or grilled chicken (or sandwich with them) would have

> been better.

> oh man, what a disaster...

>

> >

> >

> >Hi Gang,

> >Well today I was out with my son and it got to be mid-afternoon and I was

> >really hungry as brekkie was at 7:30. What to have???? Damn I hate

> >restaurants, it's so hard to choose when you dont really have a clue how

> >things are prepared. As it was over an hour til we'd get home, we went to

> >Mcs. Bad move...I had a garden salad McWrap and a diet Coke. I

> >hate diet Coke but the other choice was ice water. I wanted something with

> >flavour. I said - I know this sounds odd, but I am serious, is there any

> >chance the diet Coke dispenser is hooked up to the regular Coke line?

> >Absolutely not they said! Ok, gimme a diet Coke. 2 hrs later at home I

> >check my blood and its at 14.0! I almost fainted at that huge number. I

> >am so upset I wasn't even gonna post this but got thinking that maybe my

> >experience will save someone else from having a McWrap. I really thought

> >that a McWrap would be better than a burger but apparently not...looks like

> >salad for dinner tonite, and maybe some sugar free jello. I havent seen a

> >number that high since back when first diagnosed.

> >

> >Please dont give me any speeches about the wraps being full of carbs, I

> >have figured that out! I knew they would be fairly high, like 2 pcs of

> >bread, I figured, but I was shocked...and maybe the pop was the regular

> kind.

> >

> >This is a live and learn experience, and now I will stick to ice water for

> >sure, and have a salad if I am out someplace and starving...

> >

> >Elva in Ontario

> >

> >Visit the British Saloon Car Club of Canada at:

> >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7967

> >

> >---------------------------

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You know Elva, I have had that experience in a fast food place when buying a

diet coke. The last few times I have not tasted it before I left the window

and would get down the road before tasting it just to find out it did not

taste like a diet but a reg coke. I now taste before I drive off and I am

not bashful anymore. I just tell them I am diabetic and It has to be diet

for sure and this does not taste diet therefore please get me another and

then I watch to make sure. Its not right to order something and not get what

you order but worse when it affects your health and that person behind the

counter just isn't paying attention. I am sorry you had a bad experience!

:o( It is hard to eat out with this stupid disease. Hugs Shelia :)

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Shelia wrote:

<< You know Elva, I have had that experience in a fast food place when

buying a

diet coke. >>

Here in the South, we have a concoction called " sweet tea. " You add the

sugar when the tea is still warm for maximum octane rating, then ice it

down. Yankees would not believe how sweet it is. (When you live in the

South, everyone else is a Yankee ... when you live up North, only New

Englanders are Yankees ... when you live in New England, only folks from

Maine are Yankees ... and when you live in Maine ... lololol.) About

one-third of the time when I clearly request UN-sweetened tea at a

drive-through, I get sweet tea. I suspect that it what happened to Elva as

well.

We always face some jeopardy when eating out ... misinformed waitstaff,

mystery ingredients, the temptation to eat bigger portions and forbidden

foods, etc.

I have become glad that AS (artificial sweeteners) have that somewhat

astringent taste, to help us identify the Good Guys. I have learned to

appreciate that taste. Regular sugar is cloying. In fact, I have thrown out

many low-fat food products because manufacturers insist on loading them up

with carbohydrates - often extra sweeteners. I have had mayonnaise, salad

dressing, spaghetti sauce, etc., that tastes so sweet it ruins the flavor of

the recipe.

I had an eye-opening experience ... I had a chance to try a bowl of

's Tomato Soup ... hadn't had it since I was a kid. Well, it tasted

just like candy-flavored tomato paste. Sure enough, it was loaded with

sweeteners. I often phone the 800-numbers they list on the labels to

complain to the manufacturers about the excessive sweetening of commercial

food items, and the answer is always the same: our studies indicate this is

what consumers prefer. We have, over the past 30-40 years, saturated

American consumers with sugar and other sweeteners, as well as

(cheap-to-produce) carbohydrates in general. And I imagine it is pretty much

the same in other countries. Combine that with a sedentary lifestyle and

larger and larger restaurant portions, and it is no wonder we are in

trouble.

Those of us prone to type 2 diabetes are the canaries in the coalmine,

demonstrating that this is a dangerously unhealthy situation. And we are

finding our way out of the coalmine and back to good health - like a canary

that spies a light at the end of the tunnel.

Susie

Susie

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> Here in the South, we have a concoction called " sweet tea. " You add the

> sugar when the tea is still warm for maximum octane rating, then ice it

> down. Yankees would not believe how sweet it is. (When you live in the

> South, everyone else is a Yankee ... when you live up North, only New

> Englanders are Yankees ... when you live in New England, only folks from

> Maine are Yankees ... and when you live in Maine ... lololol.)

When you live in Canada, all Americans are Yankees. :)

> I have become glad that AS (artificial sweeteners) have that somewhat

> astringent taste, to help us identify the Good Guys. I have learned to

> appreciate that taste. Regular sugar is cloying. In fact, I have thrown

out

> many low-fat food products because manufacturers insist on loading them

up

> with carbohydrates - often extra sweeteners. I have had mayonnaise, salad

> dressing, spaghetti sauce, etc., that tastes so sweet it ruins the flavor

of

> the recipe.

I've found that as well. I used to take 2 spoons of sugar in my coffee.

The odd time now that I use actual sugar instead of AS, 2 spoons is way too

sweet. And regular Coke is the same.

Once you're away from it for a while, your tastes really change.

Annette

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