[BULK] Re: Re: Again with the portfolio.

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Has anyone had their activities denied? As long as you have it listed in your

goals (which you can change anytime, is very easy, have done it 3times) it

shouldn't be an issue. Why worry about something that might not happen?

[bULK] Re: Re: Again with the portfolio.

Importance: Low

I am a new RD too. less then 2 yrs since exam.

However practicing nutrition much longer (yes, some institutes don't require RD,

still do).

Here is the big deal and this is why I am " afraid " if the PDP will stay as a

tool for re-certification:

Aside from the extra paper work that we are required (no other clinicians are,

and I have enough during business hours)- why do we need to have CDR

" permission " to attend any nutrition seminar we want. Yes, we can update the PDP

any time of the day 7 days a week - but is that how you want to spend your time

) I completed already more then 1/2 CEUs. Submitted my PDP 3 months after exam (

and wrote the first version of the petition a month later). I follow the rules,

as long as they exist. I don't want to lose my credentials just because someone

in CDR decides a class I took is not " sufficient " for the PDP, even though I

took 75 nutrition CEUs. Here - read for attachment, since I have been to this

discussion many time, too many. This attachment list that all - make your

decision. Do you need " mommy and daddy in CDR approve every interest you have or

nor?

PS. I know of RDs who just submitted their PDP a year earlier, just because they

were afraid that CDR won't approve some credits so they will have time to

complete more CEUs. This is unfair because instead of having a 5 yr cycle - they

have 4, and re-certification starts earlier. IT creates a lot of stress and

boredom on RDs. This is not necessary, not for re-certification.

I know other RDs who took more then 75 credits " just in case " CDR won't approve

all. Why do we have to be reduced to this level? Why do we need to spend more

money (for CEUs) then we should (is that because our salaries are so high?????

LOL)

Please - read the attachment - let me know if you have more questions.

Re: Again with the portfolio.

Ok, it's good to see the enthusiasm of the 'new' RDs. I don't want to

stir up the discussion but I finished my portfolio a year in advance,

logged to the website, got the activities approved in about six weeks.

I suggest that you keep those portfolios in a safe, accessible place.

Massachusetts has licensure (which I strongly support).

And lucky me, I have been chosen for a random audit and have to submit

proof of activities (30 hours) in the two year period 3/04 to 3/06

which doesn't coincide with my registration. It is a learning

experience about bureaucracy that I could have done without.

I'm an 'old' (longtime) dietitian. Now if winning the lottery were a

better shot!! Sigh. Raphaela Rozanski, MS, RD, LDN

> OK then.

> First step - unsubscribe to community list.

> Then - if they fail to listen and react to members fall-out, we

un-renew our memberships. How is that for a plan. Again, a group

action is always a strongest impact then individuals. We can circulate

an e-mail hear and on RD Forum see how many wants to unsubscribe and

if it is 100 or more- we pick up a date (2-3 days window) to all these

100 to actually unsubscribe. IN hopes of 95% cooperation - I thing we

can send our message.

> How did you unsubscribe? Through the list? was it posted? (I wish,

right?)

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[Guest guest]

Actually, we won't really, absolutely know until a practitioner is

randomly audited. The whole process is yet to be completed.

We dietitians like 100% in all our processes. ;-)

Raphaela

> > OK then.

> > First step - unsubscribe to community list.

> > Then - if they fail to listen and react to members fall-out, we

> un-renew our memberships. How is that for a plan. Again, a group

> action is always a strongest impact then individuals. We can

circulate

> an e-mail hear and on RD Forum see how many wants to unsubscribe and

> if it is 100 or more- we pick up a date (2-3 days window) to all

these

> 100 to actually unsubscribe. IN hopes of 95% cooperation - I thing

we

> can send our message.

> > How did you unsubscribe? Through the list? was it posted? (I wish,

> right?)

> >

> > .

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Great

> rates starting at 1¢/min.

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> >

[Guest guest]

, Raphaela,

This just enhance what I am saying: Why do we need the hassle of getting extra

CEUs " just in case? "

and it is a big deal, because no other clinical profession required for that.

Monitoring CEUs is one thing, making it an hassle - is another. This is an

hassle. Why do we need to attend more then we need. yes, this is good for us,

and we are doing good for ourselves, but it cost time and money that we don't

always have. And I really don't want to take 120 CEus just b/c I am afraid that

CDR won't approve some of those that I submit) this is not a professional

approach (created by CDR) again - I can understand why RDs/ DTRs are doing

that, but they wouldn't feel the need to do so if it wasn't so uncertain, scary

and again, a babying process. I don't think this is how professionals should be

treated, especially not by their own organization.

[bULK] Re: Re: Again with the portfolio.

I turned mine in one year in advance. My license does not coincide

with my registration. My license CEUs are being audited between 2004

and 2006. The letter states that CEUs must be approved by recognized

entities including ADA and CDR. If any are questioned, I will send my

ADA approved log. If I had not sent it in advance, I would be unable

to meet the state's Oct 20 deadline. Stcking with pre-approved

programs or recognized CDR providers is probably the best bet for

ease of reporting.

Raphaela

>

> Hi,

>

> I turned in my hours last year and got a note back that one of

the providers I had listed wasn't pre-approved. I also had turned in

hours for a CEU program that I had presented to other RDs (hadn't

read the info carefully enough as it states you can't count those

hours).

>

> There wasn't any big deal to all this, other than going in and

putting in another few CEU hours that I had completed in the meantime

(not planning to need to log them for ADA CDR).

>

> I got my notification letter that all my requirements for cycle

ending 5/31/08 were met on Jan 24, 2006. Even when I was a " stay at

home mom " , I had my hours completed in advance and extra ones.

>

> When it comes to staying up on what is going on, I don't think 75

comes nearly close enough to what we need. ADA membership provides

something like 4 hours of CEU every month with the Journal free of

charge. There are several other " free " hours out there if you keep

your eyes open.

>

> MEH

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> Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN

> ISeeSpots Farm

> Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool

> www.iseespots.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is great, and I could agree that we could use more the 75 CEUs, but that's

not the point. Imagin - that if the PDP stays, (And I can see that happens) we

will be required for 100 CEUs and PDP. the next year it will be increased to

120 and 150.......... do you still want to do learning plan for that many

credits?

Yes, I would love to attend a seminar of 5 days in Arizona, and I couldn't

afford (time and money issue ) the ASPEN conference in Dallas, and I can't get

to the Renfrew seminar in Philadelphia, but I have other obligations in my life

(and so is everyone else here) - The point I am trying to make - I want to

attend more, but I can't, for different reasons. But with the PDP, I have to

take that into consideration as well. Why?

The point is, in my eyes, is - do we really need to have approval of CEUs or

just submit them so we can take whatever interest us, without any additional

paperwork. All I want is to keep things simple:

Go to seminars

Learn something new (hopefully)

submit a proof of attendance

done. re-certified.

If I don't complete 75 CEUs in 5 years - then, deny re-certification. That's

it. Black and white. Simple.

Why do I need any more steps and paperwork/time online.

Re: [bULK] Re: Re: Again with the portfolio.

> Hi,

>

> I turned in my hours last year and got a note back that one of the

> providers I had listed wasn't pre-approved. I also had turned in hours

> for a CEU program that I had presented to other RDs (hadn't read the info

> carefully enough as it states you can't count those hours).

>

> There wasn't any big deal to all this, other than going in and putting in

> another few CEU hours that I had completed in the meantime (not planning

> to need to log them for ADA CDR).

>

> I got my notification letter that all my requirements for cycle ending

> 5/31/08 were met on Jan 24, 2006. Even when I was a " stay at home mom " , I

> had my hours completed in advance and extra ones.

>

> When it comes to staying up on what is going on, I don't think 75 comes

> nearly close enough to what we need. ADA membership provides something

> like 4 hours of CEU every month with the Journal free of charge. There

> are several other " free " hours out there if you keep your eyes open.

>

> MEH

>

>

>

>

>

> Ellen Hansson, MEd, RD, LDN

> ISeeSpots Farm

> Sheep: Lambs, adults, wool

> www.iseespots.com

>

>