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How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that make

billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life saving

treatments?

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the

unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix

the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in

education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that

entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a

practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so

we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe

that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what

is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are

doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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I really think this is our professional niche - prevention! This is where a

national campaign would be very beneficial for RDs. We are the front line of

defense for 3 of the leading causes of death. And yes, we don't get reimbursed,

but that hasn't really stopped us from trying to improve our pts' quality of

life. There will always be people that are unhappy with the system, choose not

to work, choose not to be compliant. We need to work with the people that want

to improve their quality of life - focus our energies on them. I think the

speaker at FCNE really hit it on the head from a societal perspective. We need

to be working from a therapeutic aspect and embracing technology as it comes to

pass. We need to be in the public eye discussing the difference between media

nutrition and therapeutic nutrition. There's a difference. And only we can

provide the therapeutic nutrition. If we're in the public eye as the experts, we

are in the forefront of utilizing the technology the

speaker was talking about. Unfortunately, my observation of the audience, most

of the people didn't get what he was saying.

From a return on investment of monies, pouring money into dying people is not

cost effective. However, we have the mentality - good or bad. Every life is

important. so until we change societal thinking, it's going to continue. I think

it's would be easier to promote utilization of us, than change every life is

important concept.

jen zingaro wrote:

How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that

make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life

saving treatments?

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the

unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix

the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in

education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that

entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a

practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so

we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe

that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what

is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are

doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at this

point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol companies that

gouge us with their high prices and sit back making indecent profits, or, on a

narrower scope, my own utilities companies that have doubled and promised to

triple my electric bill in the next 6 months .... I'm willing to listen to

anyone that has solutions, and still remain faithful to my own beliefs.

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups.msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are

doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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It's easy to blame the drug companies of being " greedy " for charging a

high profit for medications without taking into account the ENORMOUS

amount of money they spend on research to get that drug approved and

make sure it does what we want it to do. You can add up the cost of

ingredients, packaging, etc. and come to the conclusion that they are

making " billions of profits " , but research is not listed in the

ingredients. That has to be paid for. Sure, we could let " the

government " pay for it, but then our taxes would go up, because, again,

the government doesn't have any money of its own. They simply take it

from those who elected them (as well as those who didn't elect them). If

we want good drugs, we have to be willing to pay for the research, too.

It stands to reason that those who need the services and drugs should

foot the majority of the bill for it. That's where insurance comes in to

help. Socialized healthcare is just a small dose of socialism. See quote

below.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care

LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics

Quote Worthy: " We can't expect the American People to jump from

Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in

giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find

that they have Communism. " --Nikita Khrushchev

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From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of jen zingaro

Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:07 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that

make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment

for life saving treatments?

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure

the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we

need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life

treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This

is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations

have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive

discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to

opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free

care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum

<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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Again, petroleum companies have to pay for exploration, not just the gas

and oil. HUGE expense. The oil companies actually make about 8-10 cents

on a gallon of gas. I don't see that as indecent profits.

Quote Worthy: " Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the

government. " -- Madison

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care

LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics

_____

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Digna Cassens

Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:08 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at

this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol

companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making

indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies

that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6

months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and

still remain faithful to my own beliefs.

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum>

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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There you go! Now, that's good thinking!

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care

LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics

" If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it

costs when it's free. " --P.J. O'Rourke

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From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of Kathy Bingham

Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:53 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

I really think this is our professional niche - prevention! This is

where a national campaign would be very beneficial for RDs. We are the

front line of defense for 3 of the leading causes of death. And yes, we

don't get reimbursed, but that hasn't really stopped us from trying to

improve our pts' quality of life. There will always be people that are

unhappy with the system, choose not to work, choose not to be compliant.

We need to work with the people that want to improve their quality of

life - focus our energies on them. I think the speaker at FCNE really

hit it on the head from a societal perspective. We need to be working

from a therapeutic aspect and embracing technology as it comes to pass.

We need to be in the public eye discussing the difference between media

nutrition and therapeutic nutrition. There's a difference. And only we

can provide the therapeutic nutrition. If we're in the public eye as the

experts, we are in the forefront of utilizing the technology the

speaker was talking about. Unfortunately, my observation of the

audience, most of the people didn't get what he was saying.

From a return on investment of monies, pouring money into dying people

is not cost effective. However, we have the mentality - good or bad.

Every life is important. so until we change societal thinking, it's

going to continue. I think it's would be easier to promote utilization

of us, than change every life is important concept.

jen zingaro <jzingaro@... <mailto:jzingaro%40cnydc.com> > wrote:

How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that

make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment

for life saving treatments?

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure

the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we

need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life

treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This

is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations

have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive

discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to

opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free

care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum

<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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The drug companies are another story all together. I am speaking of insurance

companies. If someone has cancer, that runs in the family, they should be

penalized for being sick as opposed to someone without cancer?

As for the drug companies, I was under the impression that some of the profits

and donations from companies were supposed to go to research. That may be why

pharmaceutical companies charge such an outrageous amount of money for

medications. ie. Vit D for renal pts that cost upwards of $400.00 a month.

I expect to pay taxes to help pay for schools, roads, policeman, fireman, etc..

That stuff doesn't come for free. Heck, I don't even mind paying taxes to fund

some of the programs that help people down on their luck or are laid off from

their jobs. I certainly wouldn't mind paying a little extra for some good

health insurance to make our country healthier. I mean, I have to pay

outrageous premiums anyway.

Oh, and our gov't has plenty of money to send us to war, oh but that's not our

money, we borrow from other countries.

My opinions of course.

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure

the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we

need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life

treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This

is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations

have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive

discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to

opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free

care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum

< http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum> >

msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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Well, the CEO's no doubt are pocketing a pretty big percentage of those profits.

We've made such big progress in oil alternatives to date.

Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at

this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol

companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making

indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies

that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6

months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and

still remain faithful to my own beliefs.

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum < http://groups.

<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum>

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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Insurance business remains an enigma for me. Maybe they're the problem

that needs to be corrected by consumer demand?

As for the government using our money (any borrowed money is paid back

with our money) for defense versus healthcare consider the following

from the founding fathers of our country, " Charity is no part of the

legislative duty of the government. " -- Madison; " We have the

right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we

please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to

appropriate a dollar of the public money. " -Davy Crockett; " I cannot

undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which

granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the

money of their constituents.... " -- Madison

Defense is the primary purpose of the Federal government. Most

everything else was to be left to the individual states, " The powers

delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few

and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are

numerous and indefinite. " -- Madison, Federalist No. 45

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care

LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics

_____

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of jen zingaro

Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:57 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

The drug companies are another story all together. I am speaking of

insurance companies. If someone has cancer, that runs in the family,

they should be penalized for being sick as opposed to someone without

cancer?

As for the drug companies, I was under the impression that some of the

profits and donations from companies were supposed to go to research.

That may be why pharmaceutical companies charge such an outrageous

amount of money for medications. ie. Vit D for renal pts that cost

upwards of $400.00 a month.

I expect to pay taxes to help pay for schools, roads, policeman,

fireman, etc.. That stuff doesn't come for free. Heck, I don't even mind

paying taxes to fund some of the programs that help people down on their

luck or are laid off from their jobs. I certainly wouldn't mind paying a

little extra for some good health insurance to make our country

healthier. I mean, I have to pay outrageous premiums anyway.

Oh, and our gov't has plenty of money to send us to war, oh but that's

not our money, we borrow from other countries.

My opinions of course.

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure

the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we

need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life

treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This

is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations

have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive

discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to

opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free

care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum

<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum

< http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum

<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum

Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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Agreed. Some (CEOs of big companies), thankfully, are in prison now. We

made some progress there.

W. Rowell, RD, LN

Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT

Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care

LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics

_____

From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf

Of jen zingaro

Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:58 AM

To: rd-usa

Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Well, the CEO's no doubt are pocketing a pretty big percentage of those

profits.

We've made such big progress in oil alternatives to date.

Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at

this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol

companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making

indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies

that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6

months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and

still remain faithful to my own beliefs.

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

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<http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> >

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Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

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> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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I agree... we need to spend money of defense. I just don't see the value of

going into Iraq and spending billions of dollars there, when the threat of them

is still questionable. :)

[bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care

Importance: Low

I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure

the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we

need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life

treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This

is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations

have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive

discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to

opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free

care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is!

Digna Cassens, MHA, RD

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msn.com/RDForum

< http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum>

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Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you

are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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Let's not forget the individual - if a person refuses to follow a diet or

exercise, spends money smoking and drinking to excess, refuses to brush and

floss their teeth, spends money on quackery (out of pocket), etc. etc. and then

c/o when they have to pay excess money for their meds, Dr.'s visits, etc. -

where is the personal responsibility?

Check Nutrition at my site:

Nutrition.teach-nology.com

Ortiz, RD

nrord@...

" The belly rules the mind. "

[bULK] Thin

> > > Importance: Low

> > >

> > > Did any one watch it tonight?

> > >

> > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made.

> > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what

> coursing

> > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls

> " substitute "

> > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all

> to be

> > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are

> not

> > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple.

> > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals)

> > > Still - the program was excellent.

> > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and

> most

> > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have

> > > eating disorder.

> > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I

> was

> > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance

> > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their

> team.

> > >

> > >

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