Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life saving treatments? [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I really think this is our professional niche - prevention! This is where a national campaign would be very beneficial for RDs. We are the front line of defense for 3 of the leading causes of death. And yes, we don't get reimbursed, but that hasn't really stopped us from trying to improve our pts' quality of life. There will always be people that are unhappy with the system, choose not to work, choose not to be compliant. We need to work with the people that want to improve their quality of life - focus our energies on them. I think the speaker at FCNE really hit it on the head from a societal perspective. We need to be working from a therapeutic aspect and embracing technology as it comes to pass. We need to be in the public eye discussing the difference between media nutrition and therapeutic nutrition. There's a difference. And only we can provide the therapeutic nutrition. If we're in the public eye as the experts, we are in the forefront of utilizing the technology the speaker was talking about. Unfortunately, my observation of the audience, most of the people didn't get what he was saying. From a return on investment of monies, pouring money into dying people is not cost effective. However, we have the mentality - good or bad. Every life is important. so until we change societal thinking, it's going to continue. I think it's would be easier to promote utilization of us, than change every life is important concept. jen zingaro wrote: How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life saving treatments? [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6 months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and still remain faithful to my own beliefs. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups.msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 It's easy to blame the drug companies of being " greedy " for charging a high profit for medications without taking into account the ENORMOUS amount of money they spend on research to get that drug approved and make sure it does what we want it to do. You can add up the cost of ingredients, packaging, etc. and come to the conclusion that they are making " billions of profits " , but research is not listed in the ingredients. That has to be paid for. Sure, we could let " the government " pay for it, but then our taxes would go up, because, again, the government doesn't have any money of its own. They simply take it from those who elected them (as well as those who didn't elect them). If we want good drugs, we have to be willing to pay for the research, too. It stands to reason that those who need the services and drugs should foot the majority of the bill for it. That's where insurance comes in to help. Socialized healthcare is just a small dose of socialism. See quote below. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics Quote Worthy: " We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism. " --Nikita Khrushchev _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of jen zingaro Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:07 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life saving treatments? [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Again, petroleum companies have to pay for exploration, not just the gas and oil. HUGE expense. The oil companies actually make about 8-10 cents on a gallon of gas. I don't see that as indecent profits. Quote Worthy: " Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. " -- Madison W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Digna Cassens Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:08 AM To: rd-usa Subject: Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6 months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and still remain faithful to my own beliefs. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 There you go! Now, that's good thinking! W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics " If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free. " --P.J. O'Rourke _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of Kathy Bingham Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:53 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care I really think this is our professional niche - prevention! This is where a national campaign would be very beneficial for RDs. We are the front line of defense for 3 of the leading causes of death. And yes, we don't get reimbursed, but that hasn't really stopped us from trying to improve our pts' quality of life. There will always be people that are unhappy with the system, choose not to work, choose not to be compliant. We need to work with the people that want to improve their quality of life - focus our energies on them. I think the speaker at FCNE really hit it on the head from a societal perspective. We need to be working from a therapeutic aspect and embracing technology as it comes to pass. We need to be in the public eye discussing the difference between media nutrition and therapeutic nutrition. There's a difference. And only we can provide the therapeutic nutrition. If we're in the public eye as the experts, we are in the forefront of utilizing the technology the speaker was talking about. Unfortunately, my observation of the audience, most of the people didn't get what he was saying. From a return on investment of monies, pouring money into dying people is not cost effective. However, we have the mentality - good or bad. Every life is important. so until we change societal thinking, it's going to continue. I think it's would be easier to promote utilization of us, than change every life is important concept. jen zingaro <jzingaro@... <mailto:jzingaro%40cnydc.com> > wrote: How do we solve the problem of the greed of insurance companies that make billions of profits and or reserves but will deny people payment for life saving treatments? [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 The drug companies are another story all together. I am speaking of insurance companies. If someone has cancer, that runs in the family, they should be penalized for being sick as opposed to someone without cancer? As for the drug companies, I was under the impression that some of the profits and donations from companies were supposed to go to research. That may be why pharmaceutical companies charge such an outrageous amount of money for medications. ie. Vit D for renal pts that cost upwards of $400.00 a month. I expect to pay taxes to help pay for schools, roads, policeman, fireman, etc.. That stuff doesn't come for free. Heck, I don't even mind paying taxes to fund some of the programs that help people down on their luck or are laid off from their jobs. I certainly wouldn't mind paying a little extra for some good health insurance to make our country healthier. I mean, I have to pay outrageous premiums anyway. Oh, and our gov't has plenty of money to send us to war, oh but that's not our money, we borrow from other countries. My opinions of course. [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Well, the CEO's no doubt are pocketing a pretty big percentage of those profits. We've made such big progress in oil alternatives to date. Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6 months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and still remain faithful to my own beliefs. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum> Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Insurance business remains an enigma for me. Maybe they're the problem that needs to be corrected by consumer demand? As for the government using our money (any borrowed money is paid back with our money) for defense versus healthcare consider the following from the founding fathers of our country, " Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government. " -- Madison; " We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. " -Davy Crockett; " I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.... " -- Madison Defense is the primary purpose of the Federal government. Most everything else was to be left to the individual states, " The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. " -- Madison, Federalist No. 45 W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of jen zingaro Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:57 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care The drug companies are another story all together. I am speaking of insurance companies. If someone has cancer, that runs in the family, they should be penalized for being sick as opposed to someone without cancer? As for the drug companies, I was under the impression that some of the profits and donations from companies were supposed to go to research. That may be why pharmaceutical companies charge such an outrageous amount of money for medications. ie. Vit D for renal pts that cost upwards of $400.00 a month. I expect to pay taxes to help pay for schools, roads, policeman, fireman, etc.. That stuff doesn't come for free. Heck, I don't even mind paying taxes to fund some of the programs that help people down on their luck or are laid off from their jobs. I certainly wouldn't mind paying a little extra for some good health insurance to make our country healthier. I mean, I have to pay outrageous premiums anyway. Oh, and our gov't has plenty of money to send us to war, oh but that's not our money, we borrow from other countries. My opinions of course. [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Agreed. Some (CEOs of big companies), thankfully, are in prison now. We made some progress there. W. Rowell, RD, LN Montana State Hospital, Warm Spring, MT Corporate Dietitian, Evergreen Health Care LEAP Consultant Dietitian, Signet Diagnostics _____ From: rd-usa [mailto:rd-usa ] On Behalf Of jen zingaro Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 10:58 AM To: rd-usa Subject: RE: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Well, the CEO's no doubt are pocketing a pretty big percentage of those profits. We've made such big progress in oil alternatives to date. Re: [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care I also don't have a solution for that. I don't know if anyone does at this point. Neither do we have a solution for the problem of petrol companies that gouge us with their high prices and sit back making indecent profits, or, on a narrower scope, my own utilities companies that have doubled and promised to triple my electric bill in the next 6 months .... I'm willing to listen to anyone that has solutions, and still remain faithful to my own beliefs. Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum> Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I agree... we need to spend money of defense. I just don't see the value of going into Iraq and spending billions of dollars there, when the threat of them is still questionable. [bULK] Re: Canadian free medical care Importance: Low I think we all pay enough taxes if we're employed, First we must cure the unemployment whether by chance and bad luck, or by choice. Then we need to fix the system that invests more in irreversible end-of-life treatments than in education, prevention, and proactive treatment. This is such a big issue that entire task forces led by past administrations have been unable to find a practical, viable solution. Positive discussions in this forum are helpful, so we can't close our minds to opinions as we all express them. I don't believe that providing free care is the only solution. I also admit I don't know what is! Digna Cassens, MHA, RD http://groups. < http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum < http://groups. <http://groups.msn.com/RDForum> msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum> > msn.com/RDForum Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. St. Francis Assis [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Let's not forget the individual - if a person refuses to follow a diet or exercise, spends money smoking and drinking to excess, refuses to brush and floss their teeth, spends money on quackery (out of pocket), etc. etc. and then c/o when they have to pay excess money for their meds, Dr.'s visits, etc. - where is the personal responsibility? Check Nutrition at my site: Nutrition.teach-nology.com Ortiz, RD nrord@... " The belly rules the mind. " [bULK] Thin > > > Importance: Low > > > > > > Did any one watch it tonight? > > > > > > I thought it was one of the most important documentary ever made. > > > However, I think the public needs more insight as for what > coursing > > > it, it is not only about wanting to be thin. These girls > " substitute " > > > with eating disorders for many things in their lives (not all > to be > > > reviled on TV, obviously) but we need the public to know they are > not > > > " jus crazy " or have wrong body image. Its not that simple. > > > (Dahhhhhh... . we all know that. I am not inventing any wheals) > > > Still - the program was excellent. > > > I thought the psychologist didn't dig in enough (hopefully, and > most > > > likely, only in front of the camera) as for the reasons they have > > > eating disorder. > > > and since insurance won't cover - it's another major problem. I > was > > > thinking that I would like to volunteer, to cut down the insurance > > > costs, but I believe I need special training to be part of their > team. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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