Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on symbiotics and fiber

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose.  My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes.  Has

this been an issue for anyone?

________________________________

From: abijann <no_reply >

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

I have been on Kristolose for over a year and cannot control my diebeties......

Thanks be to God for he creates our tomorrows Love, Lyncia

 

 

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 11:45 AM

 

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose.  My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes.  Has

this been an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

Certain probiotics could be useful in achieving lower ammonia and other toxin

levels, but I would only venture into this if your loved one is not being

treated by a regular doctor. Lactulose is not really sugar in the sense that we

can digest it. If it were digestable, the body would break it down long before

it reached the colon. This is why it is called technically a " non digestable "

" disaccharide " . It is a disaccharide (double-sugar) formed from one molecule

each of the simple sugars (monosaccharides) fructose and galactose.

It is porly absorbed. If you had only lactulose to try to live on, you would

starve. It cannot usually have any significant affect on blood sugar.

My personal belief is that a competant doctor should administer this, as it is a

drug, and can have a really big impact, both good and bad. I myself have seen

forst hand the consequences when my gut flora (intestinal bacteria) is disturbed

by antibiotics or fluconizole last summer, and it is not good. I thought I was

dying. I had more gas pain than I thought I could take. Is Phil taking

lactulose? Have the doctors added a non absorbable antibiotic called Rifaximin,

or Xifaxin? This drug is also not digested but arrives intact in the intestines

where it killes bad bacteria, like E-Coli. and Staph. Both of these " bad "

bacteria create ammonia. Lactulose causes the good bacteria, Lactobacillus to

over grow, and keep them down. So it really does a few different jobs, and is

quite amazing.

I would talk this over with the pharmicist and doctor.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:45:52 AM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose. My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes. Has

this been an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

very good Abijann i have been frequenting Janis. we have been going thru

increased bouts of HE. it was the worse he has had last week. This Monday he

cleared up and my son embraced me and said i am so happy Pop looks and sounds

better:) My nerves was to tore up i felt as i would throw up. But he is good

today and that i am so grateful. and we got the Xifaxin and lactulose will start

this on Saturday  sandra

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 6:36 PM

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

Pre and pro-biotic don't have to be in a food form. And i too had a pro-biotic

yogurt once and the GAS was awfully painful

I purchased in a pill form called Pearls was not so bad. the Health food store

sells theses too. Some forms are to be refrigerated. Anyways the pharmacists at

work tell me that a pro-biotic does its best job in 3 days after that the effect

is little to none in normal cases. we limit the therapy in the hospital to 3

days.  

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 9:45 AM

 

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose.  My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes.  Has

this been an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

HMM........ THAT IS INTERESTING

Thx for the info

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 3:34:15 PM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

Pre and pro-biotic don't have to be in a food form. And i too had a pro-biotic

yogurt once and the GAS was awfully painful

I purchased in a pill form called Pearls was not so bad. the Health food store

sells theses too. Some forms are to be refrigerated. Anyways the pharmacists at

work tell me that a pro-biotic does its best job in 3 days after that the effect

is little to none in normal cases. we limit the therapy in the hospital to 3

days.  

From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 9:45 AM

 

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose.  My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes.  Has

this been an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

Phil just started Lactulose alone(no other drug)  this week and he has had

problems since, (gloating,constipation-unable to eat)  I called the Oncologist

office and they ordered a new set of labwork to see what is going on.  Thats why

I was thinkling about an alternative , and you are right, I had planned to

discuss with the Dr.  I was just looking for the groups input on their

experiences and feedback.  Perhaps, something else is going on...lets keep our

fingers crossed.

He does feel better today and had a normal appetite. And a BM....... Yea!  

...Thx for the info Bobby, you're the best

Phyllis 

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:34:41 PM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

Certain probiotics could be useful in achieving lower ammonia and other toxin

levels, but I would only venture into this if your loved one is not being

treated by a regular doctor. Lactulose is not really sugar in the sense that we

can digest it. If it were digestable, the body would break it down long before

it reached the colon. This is why it is called technically a " non digestable "

" disaccharide " . It is a disaccharide (double-sugar) formed from one molecule

each of the simple sugars (monosaccharides) fructose and galactose.

It is porly absorbed. If you had only lactulose to try to live on, you would

starve. It cannot usually have any significant affect on blood sugar.

My personal belief is that a competant doctor should administer this, as it is a

drug, and can have a really big impact, both good and bad. I myself have seen

forst hand the consequences when my gut flora (intestinal bacteria) is disturbed

by antibiotics or fluconizole last summer, and it is not good. I thought I was

dying. I had more gas pain than I thought I could take. Is Phil taking

lactulose? Have the doctors added a non absorbable antibiotic called Rifaximin,

or Xifaxin? This drug is also not digested but arrives intact in the intestines

where it killes bad bacteria, like E-Coli. and Staph. Both of these " bad "

bacteria create ammonia. Lactulose causes the good bacteria, Lactobacillus to

over grow, and keep them down. So it really does a few different jobs, and is

quite amazing.

I would talk this over with the pharmicist and doctor.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:45:52 AM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose. My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not sure

that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes. Has this been

an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

oops-meant bloating-not gloating...ahhaha

________________________________

To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:46:08 PM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose...article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

Phil just started Lactulose alone(no other drug)  this week and he has had

problems since, (gloating,constipat ion-unable to eat)  I called the Oncologist

office and they ordered a new set of labwork to see what is going on.  Thats why

I was thinkling about an alternative , and you are right, I had planned to

discuss with the Dr.  I was just looking for the groups input on their

experiences and feedback.  Perhaps, something else is going on...lets keep our

fingers crossed.

He does feel better today and had a normal appetite. And a BM....... Yea!  

...Thx for the info Bobby, you're the best

Phyllis 

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Bob Aragon <robwalkingeagle@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:34:41 PM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

Certain probiotics could be useful in achieving lower ammonia and other toxin

levels, but I would only venture into this if your loved one is not being

treated by a regular doctor. Lactulose is not really sugar in the sense that we

can digest it. If it were digestable, the body would break it down long before

it reached the colon. This is why it is called technically a " non digestable "

" disaccharide " . It is a disaccharide (double-sugar) formed from one molecule

each of the simple sugars (monosaccharides) fructose and galactose.

It is porly absorbed. If you had only lactulose to try to live on, you would

starve. It cannot usually have any significant affect on blood sugar.

My personal belief is that a competant doctor should administer this, as it is a

drug, and can have a really big impact, both good and bad. I myself have seen

forst hand the consequences when my gut flora (intestinal bacteria) is disturbed

by antibiotics or fluconizole last summer, and it is not good. I thought I was

dying. I had more gas pain than I thought I could take. Is Phil taking

lactulose? Have the doctors added a non absorbable antibiotic called Rifaximin,

or Xifaxin? This drug is also not digested but arrives intact in the intestines

where it killes bad bacteria, like E-Coli. and Staph. Both of these " bad "

bacteria create ammonia. Lactulose causes the good bacteria, Lactobacillus to

over grow, and keep them down. So it really does a few different jobs, and is

quite amazing.

I would talk this over with the pharmicist and doctor.

Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:45:52 AM

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose. My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not sure

that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes. Has this been

an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm

[Guest guest]

BUT there are always exceptions....

From: Phyllis Delgado <pdelgado354@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 9:45 AM

 

Thank you for this info-I read it and it appears that a pro biotic is a good

alternative to lactulose.  My husband was just put on lactulose and I am not

sure that a sugar solution wouldn't then create another issue-diabetes.  Has

this been an issue for anyone?

____________ _________ _________ __

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:36:42 PM

Subject: Alternative to Lactulose... article on

symbiotics and fiber

 

http://janis7hepc. com/cirrhosis13. htm