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I don't really know as much as I should about sex hormones, and without

ranges, those numbers are absolutely without meaning. TSH doesn't

matter at all, so we can just ignore it. Your fT4 is low and fT3 just

above range. This suggests that you're converting as fast as you can

just to survive, you have low cortisol corralling your T3 in the blood

and not letting into your cells, or both. Your ferritin is WAY low, and

random cortisol is meaningless.

Knowing the ranges for the lab that gave the results is important

because sometimes the procedure varies, resulting in different

anticipated outcomes.

K? :-)

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lynda_vandenelzen wrote:

> Hi again - Since nobody responded, I thought I would post this

> again. My questions are in my original post. If you have any

> answers, that would be really great.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

> >

> > Sorry Val!!

> >

> > Here are the numbers again, with the ranges (But why are ranges

> from

> > this specific lab useful to interpret my results?)

> >

> > On Day 22 of my cycle (5 days before I bled)

> > Estradol - 236 PMOL/L (range not listed)

> > Testosterone - 2.8 nmol/L (range <4.0 for adults after puberty)

> > Progesterone - 32.7 nmol/L (range 5.3 - 86.0 during luteal phase)

> > DHEAS - 10.7 umol/L (range 1.8-7.7)

> >

> > sTSH - <0.01 mU/L (0.35 - 5 - I know - ACK!!)

> > T4 Free 12.0 pmol/L (10 - 20)

> > T3 Free 5.8 pmol/L (2.6 - 5.7)

> >

> > From the end of March:

> > Ferritin 16 UG/L (range 13 - 145)

> > Cortisol Random-Ser 161 (range 30-958) (was taken at 11am fasting)

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> sTSH - <0.01 mU/L (0.35 - 5 - I know - ACK!!)

> T4 Free 12.0 pmol/L (10 - 20)

> T3 Free 5.8 pmol/L (2.6 - 5.7)

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> From the end of March:

> Ferritin 16 UG/L (range 13 - 145)

> Cortisol Random-Ser 161 (range 30-958) (was taken at 11am fasting)

OK I would not worry about the TSH if you are on thyroid hormones this

is fine. If you are not taking thyroid, it shows pituitary dysfunction.

I would say your Cortisol is low but this is a really bad test to

determine from as the range is way too big to tell much.Your Ferritin is

in the dirt! You need to bring it up to between 70-90 for good thyroid

function. I would say take any form of iron that agrees with you at 200

MG a day. It will still take a couple months to bring it up with that

much. Your thyroid levels look fairly good, but I bet you still feel bad

from the low Ferritin. The over range T3 MAY be from low Cortisol. You

could try doing a temperature graph following directions from www.drrind.com

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, I think your eyes moved too fast. fT4 is 12 on a scale of

10-20. LOW.

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> > sTSH - <0.01 mU/L (0.35 - 5 - I know - ACK!!)

> > T4 Free 12.0 pmol/L (10 - 20)

> > T3 Free 5.8 pmol/L (2.6 - 5.7)

> >

> Your thyroid levels look fairly good,

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>>, I think your eyes moved too fast. fT4 is 12 on a scale of

10-20. LOW.<<

You're right.. I am at work so rushing through between dogs. It is low,

and not only thta but looks like a Total T4 instead of Free.

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>>The over

range T3 MAY be from low Cortisol

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Would you explain why that may be so?

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Because your body needs cortiosl for T3 to get into the receptors in

the cells to work. As in adrenal fatigue you have been low cortisol for

a while, the T3 has most likely built up in your blood which shows up

as high T3 with a normal to low T4.

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My boyfriend was put on Armour, testosterone and DHEA. I think he should be on cortisol but he does not listen to me.

Can thyroid work even with his cortisol being pretty low?

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Sometimes if the adrenals are not totally shot if he raises Armour VERY

slowly, he may heal without adrenal support, but most likely if he has

weak adrenals he will not get the Armour optimized as he will get hyper

symptoms before that happens from the build up in his blood.

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>>The over range T3 MAY be from low Cortisol

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Would you explain why that may be so? <<

Because your body needs cortiosl for T3 to get into the receptors in the cells to work. As in adrenal fatigue you have been low cortisol for a while, the T3 has most likely built up in your blood which shows up as high T3 with a normal to low T4.

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O.K. Thanks. Just a little confused momentarily. I really did know that!

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>>I do wonder if I have a pituitary problem, since at my sickest, my

TSH was 5.13 and my skin was peeling off (so I wonder if I have

something on my pituitary hampering it's function because you'd

think with the list of symptoms I had that my TSH would have been

higher) Any thoughts on that?<<

For some people 5.13 IS a very high TSH. Mine never went that high! And

I almost died of low thyroid so it is relative. It is a higher TSH than

you would have with pituitary failure. About the Floradix.. we need

about 200MG a day of elemental iron to bring Ferritin levels up, so I

would say you would need 10 of these a day. The normal dosages do not

apply when you have seriously low Ferritin.

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