Re: Rifing for Mycoplasma Fermentans

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690, I believe.herxes, yes, not as bad as lyme thoughmakes me happier, makes my voice clearer. gets rid of achy hip muscle pains I used to get. makes me able to breathe better. seems like you have to rife every day for 3+ weeks, then symptoms go away, but it comes back a few weeks later, so you keep doing this.

My biggest improvement is reduction in depression and improvement in being able to make small talk.-

 

Hello,Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans.  What frequency(s)? 

How long a session?  What type of herxes?Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie. Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?Many thanks,-n

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Hi n,I used 690 for Myco.  and I herxed.  I can't remember how long I used for my first session, probably 30 seconds.  I decided not to treat at the time (was doing other infections), but I did confirm I had it from the herxes.

I can't remember how often to coil for it. I hope someone here will post this info.My herxes are all pretty much the same.  They say we go backwards in symptoms from our disease onset. I think this is true, especially the first year or so of coiling/treating. Now that I've been treating for two years, it's much milder.

Best,

 

Hello,Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans.  What frequency(s)? 

How long a session?  What type of herxes?Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie. Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?Many thanks,-n

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I've only had my Coil machine for a couple of months. I have had stronger

reactions to Myco at 690 than any of the common Lyme frx. Perhaps this is due to

the Lyme being " out of season " ? I've been working my way up to 15 minutes (every

2-3 days) in an attempt to get rid of eye floaters and swollen knuckles....which

are decreasing slowly. My reaction has been primarily ear ringing, muscle

soreness, and strong odors in the bathroom. I haven't increased the rifing to

every day - yet - due to a concern about my body's ability to detox.

I am curious as to how one can really tell how much Lyme one has vs how much

Myco, since the symptoms are so similar. Any insight is appreciated.

Thanks,

Cliff

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> Hello,

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> Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans. 

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> What frequency(s)? 

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> How long a session? 

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> What type of herxes?

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> Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie. Improvement

in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> Many thanks,

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Cliff,

I ran 690 a week ago and got major reaction 2-3 days later.

Knees, hips, butt were beyond sore!

The herx was so similar to a Lyme herx (with 432) in regards to the joint pain.

690 was a " Doug Frequency " too.

So keep running that bad boy.

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> > Hello,

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> > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans. 

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> > What frequency(s)? 

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> > How long a session? 

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> > What type of herxes?

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> > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > Many thanks,

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Hi Cliff,

In my own experience of killing Lyme on a weekly basis until I felt 100% better,

I soon learned that my reprieve was short lived as Mycoplasma quickly took over

and picked up where Lyme left off. Unfortunately, I am finding Mycoplasma to be

much harder to eradicate. This is mainly due to the fact that it grows very

rapidly and it must be hit on a daily basis in order to get ahead of it.

I too have a very difficult time detoxing and must work as well so must remain

functional. Mycoplasma also has dormant stages much like Lyme. You might feel

great for awhile with no arthritic symptoms and then suddenly, the symptoms are

back. As far as distinguishing Lyme symptoms from Mycoplasma, that is a good

question. I am still trying to figure out the difference in symptoms, they both

cause arthritis and neurological pain as well as brain fog neuro toxic die off.

The main way that I determined what symptoms were related to Mycoplasma was the

herx. If I herxed on 690 but not 432, then I attributed the symptoms to

Mycoplasma. I no longer herx on 432, but do on 690. I also have been muscle

tested by several doctors and am not testing much for Lyme anymore, but a big

Mycoplasma load of several different strains some of which I can't find any

frequencies for.

Most people that I know that are close to the end of eradicating Lyme say that

Lyme can tend to manifest as Mycoplasma when you are close to the end of

treating Lyme. If I were you, I would definitely try to coil Lyme once a week

and continue to hit Mycoplasma as you have been if your body will tolerate it.

I wish that I had been more aggressive with Mycoplasma when killing Lyme as I

don't think it would have taken over as aggressively. If you can back down on

the amount of time you run on 690, but hit it every day, I think that would be

better then every other day, just because you may keep it stable, but never get

ahead of it. I find Mycoplasma so much harder to eradicate then Lyme, so good

luck.

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> > Hello,

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> > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans. 

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> > What frequency(s)? 

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> > How long a session? 

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> > What type of herxes?

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> > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > Many thanks,

> > -n

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I'm curious about the comment you made of doing a little amount every day of

rife for Mycoplasma versus a longer time 1-2 x a week.

Would this be a sound principle for other infections like bart?

Sherry

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> > > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma fermentans. 

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> > > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > > Many thanks,

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Bart is the fastest growing of any of the organisms and Mycoplasma runs a close

second. I coiled the Bart frequency 832 twice a day for a very short amount of

time around 1-2 minutes to start. I also took Houtuynia Cordata which Dr.

Schaller says in his book Bartonella will kill it in the blood, but not the rest

of the body. Since the herb only gets it in the blood, I continued to coil it

for about 3 months until I no longer herxed. I know that you need to rife Bart

daily or you will never get ahead of it.

The problem is that many of us have poor phase 2 Methylation which means we

don't detox the neuro toxins from the die off. I learned about my Methylation

problems the hard way which were later confirmed by the Yasko Methylation Panel

that I had a lot of genetic mutations. When I first started treating with Rife.

I was rifing daily and my symptoms instead of getting better and better got

worse and worse. I took Cholestyramine for a couple of months and felt almost

100% better. It really tore up my gut though, so I could not continue taking

it.

I then started using daily doses of , Chlorella, French Green Clay and Charcoal

followed by a pretty big dose of ground flax in water because Chlorella and Clay

can be constipating. I would then do a coffee enema about 30-60 minutes later

and I found that it really kept me functional much like the Cholestyramine did.

I am also now using the PE 1 photon device with energetic vials of Ammonia and

Quinolinic Acid which are both neurotoxins of killing pathogens. I also photon

vials of Mercury, Lead and Ammonia at a 12X dilution and this really helps

entrain my body to detox, much like the laser detox therapy used by Dr Lee

Cowden MD.

The other thing that has really helped my toxin issue is using Redi-sorb liquid

glutathione in my coffee enemas to move out the toxins I also might open an

EDTA capsule into the organic coffee which binds with lead. I have found this

to be as effective as infusions of Glutathione or EDTA. I also try to do liver

and gallbladder flushes at least once a month until I no longer pass stones as

having gallstones can really impede detoxification.

If you can handle saunas that can also help with detox, but I had to take the

sauna slow at first because I was so sensitive to the Infrared radiation and the

metals that were coming from my sweat. I had to do NAET treatmenst on both IR

and my own sweat in order to continue using a sauna. I am now able to tolerate

the sauna more since I had all of my Amalgams removed, but I am still pretty

careful.

That is why I say when you coil daily, you must keep the amount of time pretty

low so that you aren't killing more then your body can detox. As the pathogenic

load gets reduced, you can start bumping up your time on the coil machine.

Killing these organisms with rife takes a lot of patience. Rifing daily means

you really need to bump up your detoxification.

I am fortunate, because I know how to energy test the length of time that I

should do on the coil machine and what frequencies are in my best interest, so I

have never experienced a herx that flattened me. In my own experience of

treating Lyme with Rife for the last 10 years, detox is almost more important

then the killing of the pathogens. Since rife for Lyme was very experimental

when I began, I wasted quite a few years spinning my wheels until I finally

figured out how to make progress. Hindsight is 20/20.

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> > > > Hello,

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> > > > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma

fermentans. 

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> > > > What frequency(s)? 

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> > > > How long a session? 

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> > > > What type of herxes?

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> > > > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > > > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > > > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > > > Many thanks,

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Hi ,

Make a custom program of the Mycoplasma frequencies and run it every day. I

would program the machine to run a group of 8 frequencies simultaneously. I

would start with the usual 5 minutes that comes preprogrammed in your machine.

If you don't feel much in the way of a herx after a few days, then gradually add

in more time daily in increments of 1 minute until you feel a herx and then stay

on that amount of time until you quit herxing again and then bump it up. With

Mycoplasma it is important to run it daily. See my longer post on some adjunct

detox treatments that helped me to tolerate daily rife sessions. You might

eventually need to buy the MOPA if you don't totally get past the Mycoplasma as

the GB 4000 though helpful is pretty weak.

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> > > Hello,

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> > > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma

fermentans. 

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> > > What frequency(s)? 

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> > > How long a session? 

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> > > What type of herxes?

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> > > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > > Many thanks,

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[Guest guest]

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Besides 690, what other frequencies do you suggest?

deb

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> > > > Hello,

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> > > > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma

fermentans. 

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> > > > What frequency(s)? 

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> > > > How long a session? 

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> > > > What type of herxes?

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> > > > Did you treat early in your overall treatment program or only later on?

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> > > > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > > > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > > > Many thanks,

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Hi Deb,

It depends on the strain of Mycoplasma. Nina Sylver's lists Mycoplasma

Fermentan Incognitus frequencies as: 254, 484. 610. 644. 660. 690 727/5 706.7.

790. 864. 878.2 880.2 986, 2900 and to sweep 5044 to 5061; 5355 to 5458.

There are many other strains of Mycoplasma and she lists eleven different

strains, for example Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Some of the above frequencies will

also get Pneumoniae, I have Mycoplasma Hominis and Nina says to hit Chlamydia

Pneumoniae frequencies as well. I got a Deserret Homeopathics Chlamydia

Pneumoniae kit that I will start soon to see if that helps. It will also help

with the Arthritis issues. If you need other frequencies, email me privately as

there a quite a few to list.

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> > > > > Hello,

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> > > > > Can anyone share their experiences with rifing for mycoplasma

fermentans. 

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> > > > > What frequency(s)? 

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> > > > > How long a session? 

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> > > > > Did you notice any specific differences after rifing for it?  Ie.

Improvement in symptoms?  If so what symptoms?

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> > > > > How often should one rife for myco?...once, twice a day, etc?

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> > > > > Many thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Thanks to all for your replies. I am coiling for Myco daily now and making more

progress. I will keep reading this board to see when the Lyme seasonal flares

start, and then begin bouncing back and forth between 432 and 690 and see what

happens..

Much appreciated.

Cliff

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Hi Cliff,Would you mind elaborating on your, "......coiling for Myco daily now and making more progress...."What have your experiences been with it and what progress have yous seen?thanks,-nSubject: Re: Rifing for Mycoplasma FermentansTo: Lyme_and_Rife Received: Wednesday, 10 August, 2011, 12:47 AM

Thanks to all for your replies. I am coiling for Myco daily now and making more progress. I will keep reading this board to see when the Lyme seasonal flares start, and then begin bouncing back and forth between 432 and 690 and see what happens..

Much appreciated.

Cliff

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n --

I have been coiling at 690 primarily to reduce a swollen primary index knuckle

that has prevented me from closing my hand/making a fist. I've had that issue

for 10+ years, and it is looking close to normal again. I also have seen

progress in peripheral neuropathy in my feet. However, I have yet to make the

big step and get more blood tests done to see if my IgA and IgM immune markers

are back in the normal range. They have been borderline for years, and abx have

not been successful.

Cliff

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Hi,When people talk of mycoplasma, are they referring to m. fermentens  or pn.?Thanks,   Barbara

 

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I have been coiling at 690 primarily to reduce a swollen primary index knuckle that has prevented me from closing my hand/making a fist. I've had that issue for 10+ years, and it is looking close to normal again. I also have seen progress in peripheral neuropathy in my feet. However, I have yet to make the big step and get more blood tests done to see if my IgA and IgM immune markers are back in the normal range. They have been borderline for years, and abx have not been successful.

Cliff

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