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I only watched a few shows back in the spring around my surgery date

time. Parents cancelled their sat. tv service... so the channel

pickings there on the home front were slim to say the least. I was

ready to move my DISH service there so I could continue my HBO

addiction. I have always hated what pageants represent. I am more for

corporate brains and just plain common sense issues. I am happy that

the girls on the show get transformed. Still, how many of us still have

same issues even when we lose weight? Being beautiful doesn't mean

life's problems blow away in the wind. I think it sends a bad message

to America's youth. But doesn't most tv do that?

Alisa B wrote:

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> Evening girlie girls (and Alfie!)

>

> Ok, I confess...that's my guilty pleasure. I've never really been one

> to watch reality shows much less beauty pageants...but something about

> that show struck a nerve deep inside of me. I think it's the fact

> that I am finally, FINALLY really transforming myself and am more

> comfortable with this than ever before. I've been watching faithfully

> and my money was on this beautiful woman named De.

>

> De is in the Army Reserves as an officer, and her husband had

> their divorce papers served while she was in The Swan. She was rather

> " manly " --in the sense that, as she admitted, she had let herself

> become more military and less feminine. Her transformation inside and

> out was incredible. Something tells me her ex is gonna be PISSED!!

>

> Tonight's show was the pageant and she was clearly the frontrunner

> from the time she first stepped out. But when she came out in her

> swim suit--WOW! All I could say was I wanna look like that! LOL.

> I've got a few years on her but it did remind me to keep my eyes on

> the prize. So tomorrow's workouts at work and at the gym are gonna be

> that tougher!

>

> Now fess up girls...would you become a " Swan " (once you were at goal

> or close to goal)? I know I would--there's no doubt in my mind that I

> would do it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To visit your group on the web, go to:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

>

>

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Darn it - I didn't know it was The Pageant last night. I watched all the

first series but this series was in conflict with something my hubby

likes to watch, so I only saw it a couple of times.

I always wonder how they cover all the scars so well in The Pageant.

Some of those girls get so much PS at the same time and they couldn't

possibly be all healed up in 3 months.

My new reality addiction is Project Runway. I managed to order one of

the winning dresses from the last show. They only made 200 of them.

Goodness knows if it will look even half decent on me, but if not I

might be able to make a couple of cents on Ebay, as it is such a limited

edition.

Carol

Anyone watch " The Swan " ?

Evening girlie girls (and Alfie!)

Ok, I confess...that's my guilty pleasure. I've never really been one

to watch reality shows much less beauty pageants...but something about

that show struck a nerve deep inside of me. I think it's the fact

that I am finally, FINALLY really transforming myself and am more

comfortable with this than ever before. I've been watching faithfully

and my money was on this beautiful woman named De.

De is in the Army Reserves as an officer, and her husband had

their divorce papers served while she was in The Swan. She was rather

" manly " --in the sense that, as she admitted, she had let herself

become more military and less feminine. Her transformation inside and

out was incredible. Something tells me her ex is gonna be PISSED!!

Tonight's show was the pageant and she was clearly the frontrunner

from the time she first stepped out. But when she came out in her

swim suit--WOW! All I could say was I wanna look like that! LOL.

I've got a few years on her but it did remind me to keep my eyes on

the prize. So tomorrow's workouts at work and at the gym are gonna be

that tougher!

Now fess up girls...would you become a " Swan " (once you were at goal

or close to goal)? I know I would--there's no doubt in my mind that I

would do it!

To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

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sorta like winning the lotery woudl do to most who win it... they

still are the same just have money for a time...

> >

> > Evening girlie girls (and Alfie!)

> >

> > Ok, I confess...that's my guilty pleasure. I've never really

been one

> > to watch reality shows much less beauty pageants...but something

about

> > that show struck a nerve deep inside of me. I think it's the

fact

> > that I am finally, FINALLY really transforming myself and am more

> > comfortable with this than ever before. I've been watching

faithfully

> > and my money was on this beautiful woman named De.

> >

> > De is in the Army Reserves as an officer, and her husband had

> > their divorce papers served while she was in The Swan. She was

rather

> > " manly " --in the sense that, as she admitted, she had let herself

> > become more military and less feminine. Her transformation

inside and

> > out was incredible. Something tells me her ex is gonna be

PISSED!!

> >

> > Tonight's show was the pageant and she was clearly the

frontrunner

> > from the time she first stepped out. But when she came out in

her

> > swim suit--WOW! All I could say was I wanna look like that! LOL.

> > I've got a few years on her but it did remind me to keep my eyes

on

> > the prize. So tomorrow's workouts at work and at the gym are

gonna be

> > that tougher!

> >

> > Now fess up girls...would you become a " Swan " (once you were at

goal

> > or close to goal)? I know I would--there's no doubt in my mind

that I

> > would do it!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To visit your group on the web, go to:

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

> >

> >

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I watched the show several times and I cry like a blubbering slob

everytime. It strickes a nerve with me also. Myself and my daughter

were glued to the TV. Amazing! That could be us too. I am amazed by

their bodies the most. Makes me want my tummy tuck after all. Trust

me..I have plenty of loose skin and saggy girls they could work on.

But as with these girls, the transformation has already started from

within on me. Im so glad De won. She deserved it...hard road and

she took us all along with her through it as her life changed for

us..both emotionally and physically! Amazing!

Kat

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That's why this show is a guilty pleasure. I was telling my RT group

Sat and the leader said she was surprised that I would watch it (she's

known me for almost 3 yrs!).

I think what attracts me to the show is the transformation. I can

relate to some of the things that some of these women go through. The

facial hair agony, the feelings of low self-worth...sure, these women

are beautiful outside only, but some of them have managed to look

inside and start the work there. There are a LOT of WLSers who even

refuse to consider that they have self esteem issues, or that they,

now that they're at their goal weights, are no longer fat/obese/etc.

What's worse is that we've seen some women who've taken this to the

far extreme...they've gone from one eating disorder to another and are

hospitalized because of what they've done to themselves.

The show to me isn't geared to children by any means. But there are

shows on MTV (which I don't watch) that are...now those scare me--16

yr olds who want to " look " like a star?

> I only watched a few shows back in the spring around my surgery date

> time. Parents cancelled their sat. tv service... so the channel

> pickings there on the home front were slim to say the least. I was

> ready to move my DISH service there so I could continue my HBO

> addiction. I have always hated what pageants represent. I am more

for corporate brains and just plain common sense issues. I am happy

that the girls on the show get transformed. Still, how many of us

still have same issues even when we lose weight? Being beautiful

doesn't mean life's problems blow away in the wind. I think it sends

a bad message to America's youth. But doesn't most tv do that?

>

>

>

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Kat

I know...there are a few that have made me tear up. I think one of

the women I ID'ed with was the young girl who had to shave!

Ugh...don't let me ever fall into a lot of money or something because

I am sooooo gonna get lasered!!!!!

>

> I watched the show several times and I cry like a blubbering slob

> everytime. It strickes a nerve with me also. Myself and my daughter

> were glued to the TV. Amazing! That could be us too. I am amazed by

> their bodies the most. Makes me want my tummy tuck after all. Trust

> me..I have plenty of loose skin and saggy girls they could work on.

> But as with these girls, the transformation has already started from

> within on me. Im so glad De won. She deserved it...hard road and

> she took us all along with her through it as her life changed for

> us..both emotionally and physically! Amazing!

>

> Kat

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AMEN! She has to be the biggest shocker to me yet. I actually

screamed when she had her first reveal! My daughter came running

into the room and we have been stuck on the show since..that is when

Im home on Monday evenings. I have to wax my top lip...swear I have

a mustache I didn't have in my 20s if I dont. :-| Oh well..I could

have hair growing out of my forehead but I don't.

When I get money..Im buying new BOOBS! UGH I would kill for new ones

before Nov 6th 2005. I put on my last wedding dress, and the skin

folded over the top. Granted it was 2 sizes too small but still..Im

going to have to stuff to even look remotely normal lol

For me, the swan is partially about the physical change and

partially about the life journeys of these people who had become

adults and had no self esteem. All of them carry baggage on their

shoulders in life for one reason or another. I was so glad when

De WON! I was even happier when she got her DIVORCE papers

BEFORE the reveal. Serves that bastage right! Now the hearing

impaired girl who has been emotionally abused by her spouse

also..she should up and leave his sorry ass too..but I did see him

there smiling and supporting her last night. I hope he sees his

sorry ass ways.

Kat

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Please know this is my opinion and in no way am I disrespecting anyone's feeling

on this show. I just have very strong feelings - all negative - about The Swan

<g>. In truth, I loathe this show. I watched most of the first season - almost

until the pageant - and something(s) kept bothering me. I finally realized it's

how disingenuous everyone is. When they show the reaction shots of the staff -

the trainer, the dentist, the therapist, Neely, etc. right before the reveal, I

found it very staged and very fake. They smile, they pretend to have a tear in

their eye, they ow and ah and it's just not sincere, IMO. It is so cloying.

The woman who stands at the mirror with the women has a really strong accent in

the beginning and then it seems to vanish as the show goes on toward the end.

Watching these women in front of the covered mirror while she says, " Anytime you

are ready. Ready? " is not suspenseful to me, but annoying.

I don't think they do these women any favors with the DaVinci veneers, the hair

extensions, way too much plastic surgery, and the awful outfits they put them in

at the reveal. The women don't look real and it's really disturbing to me -

they don't look natural and they almost all look alike with big fake teeth and

too much plastic surgery. One reviewer said they look like men in bad drag

and I kind of agree - okay, I agree a lot <g>. I read a magazine article that

showed some of the women months later - they wanted to know how their lives were

and if they were keeping up their new look. One picture of one of the women was

almost scary - I almost thought it was a before picture and then I realized it

was an after shot.

I also don't think the message they send is a healthy message - change your

outside to some standard of beauty we've imposed on American women and life will

be great. Sure, they talk about changing your inside and gaining self-respect

and self- esteem, but I think they only do it because they know some want to

hear it. Neely (I think this is her name), the creator, says she has had

nothing done and then finally admitted to Botox. I think she has had a lot more

done - her face looks very plastic and not real.

I often like Extreme Makeover when they take people with often severe facial

problems and do enough to help them and give them a natural look. I love

Extreme Makeover Home Edition - very touching and heartwarming stories. I just

think The Swan goes way too far and sends the wrong message.

Okay, with all that said, please, I repeat, know this is only my feelings on The

Swan. I respect those of you that like it, I truly do. I own my feelings and

they are strong ones, but I would never dis anyone for liking it because I

don't. Individuality makes the world go 'round - thank goodness!

My dream is to do Survivor (if I could get medical clearance). To show this

once 325# Jewish American Princess (JAP for short) could rough it and keep up,

etc. When I reach goal, I am going to ask my surgeon what she thinks and if she

says she would clear me medically, I am going to audition for it. I hate to

fly, I hate snakes, and if there is no room service, I consider it roughing it

<g>. So, to fly hours on a plane to a foreign place, have to sleep outside

with snakes, etc., would do more for me as an individual than The Swan ever

could - it's what I need to prove to myself. Now you all know my innermost

fantasy - to be on Survivor (and not be the first one voted off)!

Hugs to all and please no tomato throwing <g>!!

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I already told my kids that I want to put in for next years Swan.

Bobbi

Anyone watch " The Swan " ?

>

>

> Evening girlie girls (and Alfie!)

>

> Ok, I confess...that's my guilty pleasure. I've never really been one

> to watch reality shows much less beauty pageants...but something about

> that show struck a nerve deep inside of me. I think it's the fact

> that I am finally, FINALLY really transforming myself and am more

> comfortable with this than ever before. I've been watching faithfully

> and my money was on this beautiful woman named De.

>

> De is in the Army Reserves as an officer, and her husband had

> their divorce papers served while she was in The Swan. She was rather

> " manly " --in the sense that, as she admitted, she had let herself

> become more military and less feminine. Her transformation inside and

> out was incredible. Something tells me her ex is gonna be PISSED!!

>

> Tonight's show was the pageant and she was clearly the frontrunner

> from the time she first stepped out. But when she came out in her

> swim suit--WOW! All I could say was I wanna look like that! LOL.

> I've got a few years on her but it did remind me to keep my eyes on

> the prize. So tomorrow's workouts at work and at the gym are gonna be

> that tougher!

>

> Now fess up girls...would you become a " Swan " (once you were at goal

> or close to goal)? I know I would--there's no doubt in my mind that I

> would do it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To visit your group on the web, go to:

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GastricBypass-LOSERS/

>

>

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just say what you think victoria:-) i albsolutely LOVE to see whan

someone just says what they mean no coy playing around to get to the

point... LOL

LOVE YA and HUGS

Peach

PS i never saw the show the comercials turned me off lol

> Please know this is my opinion and in no way am I disrespecting

anyone's feeling on this show. I just have very strong feelings -

all negative - about The Swan <g>. In truth, I loathe this show. I

watched most of the first season - almost until the pageant - and

something(s) kept bothering me. I finally realized it's how

disingenuous everyone is. When they show the reaction shots of the

staff - the trainer, the dentist, the therapist, Neely, etc. right

before the reveal, I found it very staged and very fake. They

smile, they pretend to have a tear in their eye, they ow and ah and

it's just not sincere, IMO. It is so cloying. The woman who stands

at the mirror with the women has a really strong accent in the

beginning and then it seems to vanish as the show goes on toward the

end. Watching these women in front of the covered mirror while she

says, " Anytime you are ready. Ready? " is not suspenseful to me,

but annoying.

>

> I don't think they do these women any favors with the DaVinci

veneers, the hair extensions, way too much plastic surgery, and the

awful outfits they put them in at the reveal. The women don't look

real and it's really disturbing to me - they don't look natural and

they almost all look alike with big fake teeth and too much plastic

surgery. One reviewer said they look like men in bad drag and I

kind of agree - okay, I agree a lot <g>. I read a magazine article

that showed some of the women months later - they wanted to know how

their lives were and if they were keeping up their new look. One

picture of one of the women was almost scary - I almost thought it

was a before picture and then I realized it was an after shot.

>

> I also don't think the message they send is a healthy message -

change your outside to some standard of beauty we've imposed on

American women and life will be great. Sure, they talk about

changing your inside and gaining self-respect and self- esteem, but

I think they only do it because they know some want to hear it.

Neely (I think this is her name), the creator, says she has had

nothing done and then finally admitted to Botox. I think she has

had a lot more done - her face looks very plastic and not real.

>

> I often like Extreme Makeover when they take people with often

severe facial problems and do enough to help them and give them a

natural look. I love Extreme Makeover Home Edition - very touching

and heartwarming stories. I just think The Swan goes way too far

and sends the wrong message.

>

> Okay, with all that said, please, I repeat, know this is only my

feelings on The Swan. I respect those of you that like it, I truly

do. I own my feelings and they are strong ones, but I would never

dis anyone for liking it because I don't. Individuality makes the

world go 'round - thank goodness!

>

> My dream is to do Survivor (if I could get medical clearance). To

show this once 325# Jewish American Princess (JAP for short) could

rough it and keep up, etc. When I reach goal, I am going to ask my

surgeon what she thinks and if she says she would clear me

medically, I am going to audition for it. I hate to fly, I hate

snakes, and if there is no room service, I consider it roughing it

<g>. So, to fly hours on a plane to a foreign place, have to sleep

outside with snakes, etc., would do more for me as an individual

than The Swan ever could - it's what I need to prove to myself. Now

you all know my innermost fantasy - to be on Survivor (and not be

the first one voted off)!

>

> Hugs to all and please no tomato throwing <g>!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

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<<just say what you think victoria:-)>>

Not a problem for me, believe me <g>.

<<albsolutely LOVE to see whan someone just says what they mean no coy playing

around to get to the point... LOL>>

LOL! That's me! I admit I can be very opinionated, but I always own my

feelings and thoughts as my own and I don't try and impose them on anyone. I

state my stuff as opionions and not as facts - there is such a huge difference.

I will always respect someone else's opinion - even if vastly different from

mine.

<<LOVE YA and HUGS>>

Back at ya'!

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