Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 The website has everything on it. Here is the sample prescription form. http://www.respen-a.com/images/formra.pdf To read the research just go to www.respena.com I am honestly not sure. My doc. faxed over the prescription to the pharmacy. If you contact Key pharmacy in Washington I'm sure they will tell you. They are so friendly and knowledgeable about it. Their number is on the respen-a website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Tami, has Respen-A already been in Zyto database? Just curious... Limin From: Tamiduncan@... Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 07:47 AM To: BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism Subject: Re: Re: Respen-A The website has everything on it. Here is the sample prescription form. http://www.respen-a.com/images/formra.pdf To read the research just go to www.respena.com I am honestly not sure. My doc. faxed over the prescription to the pharmacy. If you contact Key pharmacy in Washington I'm sure they will tell you. They are so friendly and knowledgeable about it. Their number is on the respen-a website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I asked Dr JM this question as well and he said it's normally no problem the kids don't need the calcium. But I am sure with my luck and my " tough nut " kiddo it will be a problem. Kristie > > > > > > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an > > > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of > that > > > information. > > > > > > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the > Respen-A > > > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin > > > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and > out > > > some of these. > > > > > > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it > can > > > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being > > > depleted if you see unusual irritability. > > > > > > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should > be > > > reduced. > > > > > > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off > at > > > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would > remove > > > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out > of the > > > pool. > > > > > > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then > they > > > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't > shown > > > anything yet. > > > > > > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement > while > > > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement > gradually > > > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't > show > > > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've > > > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin > to talk > > > have a VERY dramatic improvement. > > > > > > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration > (per > > > QEEG scans before and after), language. > > > > > > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this > brings. > > > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on > all > > > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me > about any > > > treatment before. > > > > > > Tami > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Krista I asked Dr JM this question as well and he said it's normally no problem the kids don't need the calcium. But I am sure with my luck and my "tough nut" kiddo it will be a problem. Kristie > > > > > > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an > > > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of > that > > > information. > > > > > > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the > Respen-A > > > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin > > > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and > out > > > some of these. > > > > > > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it > can > > > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being > > > depleted if you see unusual irritability. > > > > > > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should > be > > > reduced. > > > > > > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off > at > > > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would > remove > > > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out > of the > > > pool. > > > > > > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then > they > > > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't > shown > > > anything yet. > > > > > > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement > while > > > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement > gradually > > > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't > show > > > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've > > > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin > to talk > > > have a VERY dramatic improvement. > > > > > > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration > (per > > > QEEG scans before and after), language. > > > > > > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this > brings. > > > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on > all > > > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me > about any > > > treatment before. > > > > > > Tami > > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (15) Recent Activity: New Members 4 New Files 1 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Do More for Dogs Group. Connect with other dog owners who do more. Welcome to Mom Connection! Share stories, news and more with moms like you. Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 , We are waiting to see my son's doctor on 29th April as we couldn't get an earlier appointment for her to give us the prescription, so we will be hoping that by them we will know from other parents if giving calcium is essential or not. My son does take calcium but in small amounts 200mg daily and he doesn't have any problem with it. He also takes AFA, bone broth, green drinks(blended vegetables)morning and afternoon, nuts and other calcium sources. At the moment he is on Cerebretik and Polithik by Soluna and for the first time he has been able to take his shoes and socks off and walk on the grass without any concern/sensitivity and he has been also eating all the greens from his plate( lettuce, cucumber, peas and green beans) it looks to me that this product is helping him to get rid of some sensitivities he has, he has been taking it for 3 days only and I have noticed the chages from day one, will continue giving it to him and see if he has any any further improvements, before I start Respen. Olga - In BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism , " extraordinaryboyilove " wrote: > > > I asked Dr JM this question as well and he said it's normally no problem the kids don't need the calcium. But I am sure with my luck and my " tough nut " kiddo it will be a problem. > > Kristie > > > > > > > > > > > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an > > > > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of > > that > > > > information. > > > > > > > > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the > > Respen-A > > > > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin > > > > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and > > out > > > > some of these. > > > > > > > > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it > > can > > > > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being > > > > depleted if you see unusual irritability. > > > > > > > > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should > > be > > > > reduced. > > > > > > > > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off > > at > > > > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would > > remove > > > > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out > > of the > > > > pool. > > > > > > > > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then > > they > > > > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't > > shown > > > > anything yet. > > > > > > > > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement > > while > > > > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement > > gradually > > > > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't > > show > > > > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've > > > > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin > > to talk > > > > have a VERY dramatic improvement. > > > > > > > > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration > > (per > > > > QEEG scans before and after), language. > > > > > > > > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this > > brings. > > > > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on > > all > > > > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me > > about any > > > > treatment before. > > > > > > > > Tami > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Hi and all, The active ingredient in Respen-A is Reserpine. Research has shown that reserpine increases monoamine oxidase-A (MAO-A) activity by 2-fold. Since my son does not have mutation on MAO-A, I think that he might not be a good candidate for Respen-A, but I am with high interests in learning parents' feedback on Respen-A. In addition to MAO-A mutation, things that can inhibit MAO-A enzyme activity include metal toxins (mercury, aluminum, cadmium), stress, high estrogen, lipid peroxidation, etc. If going by this list of inhibitors, it seems that it is just about every ASD kid who can be benefited by Respen-A at some levels. Reserpine's activation of MAO-A results in creased H2 receptor stimulation, which results in increased production of calcitonin by the thyroid gland. Calcitonin pushes calcium from the blood into the bones, H2 receptor stimulation also causes calcium from the blood to be excreted in the urine. , if you consider the increased production of calcitonin from the perspective of Vitamin K protocol, this isn't a bad thing at all, as you do want calcium to be escorted to teeth and bones. Ionized calcium floating freely in the blood increases the risk of binding to oxalic acids to form calcium oxalate crystals. Increased excretion of calcium in the urine has not been a concern in either Yasko's or vitamin K protocol. The question resides in how to supplement calcium safely. The pharmacy that makes Respen-A does not recommend taking vitamin D and K. I find this recommendation quite uneasy. They do recommend taking magnesium with calcium at a ratio of 1:4, very different from Yasko's or most of researchers' recommended ration of 2:1. Depending on the individuals, I also think that while on Respen-A and calcium, it might be helpful to also supplement theanine and/or lithium, which can down-regulate NMDA receptor sensitivity to glutamate, to reduce the possibility of calcium influx into neuron cells. Ainsworths, a homeopathic pharmacy in UK, carries reserpine in these potencies, 6C, 9C, 12C, 15C, 30C, LM 1, LM 2, LM 3. They can customize reserpine in drops or tablet form. Respen-A contains reserpine at 4X. Does anyone know what the equivalent of 4X is? I wonder if I can have Ainsworths to make some vials to be used together with photon therapy. It seems to me that delivering the remedy via LED or laser might work better at the cellular levels than a skin patch does. Look forwarding to hearing parents' feedback, reports on Respen-A. Limin -- http://www.healthbylimin.com/ Young Living Distributor # 1111136 " Follow those who seek the truth, but flee from those who have found it. " -- Unknown origin -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 05:23 AM To: <BorreliaMultipleInfectionsAndAutism > Subject: Re: Respen-A > Hi Tami, and Olga, > > Are you guys at all worried about giving the 2000mg of calcium to > counteract calcium depletion when using Respen-A? After doing Dr. AY for > 2.5 years and now the Vitamin K protocol I feel like giving calcium > supplements is a big NO NO. But maybe it is okay because it is just > keeping it balanced? Would love to know more since calcium channels are > so important with ASD. We need Limin on this one! : ) > > Thanks, > > > >> > >> > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an >> > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of >> > that >> > information. >> > >> > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the >> > Respen-A >> > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin >> > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and >> > out >> > some of these. >> > >> > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it >> > can >> > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being >> > depleted if you see unusual irritability. >> > >> > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should >> > be >> > reduced. >> > >> > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off >> > at >> > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would >> > remove >> > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out of >> > the >> > pool. >> > >> > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then they >> > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't >> > shown >> > anything yet. >> > >> > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement while >> > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement >> > gradually >> > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't >> > show >> > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've >> > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin >> > to talk >> > have a VERY dramatic improvement. >> > >> > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration >> > (per >> > QEEG scans before and after), language. >> > >> > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this brings. >> > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on >> > all >> > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me about >> > any >> > treatment before. >> > >> > Tami >> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Limin, You do continue to amaze me! Very helpful explanation of the mechanism of reserpine. is MAO-A ++ so I guess this might be something to try. As far as the NMDA receptor and glutamate inhibiting, has been on Lamictal since January and it has been very good for him. I wonder if this would be another step in the same direction. I'll let the group know if we proceed. Thanks again for helping me understand! > >> > > >> > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an > >> > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of > >> > that > >> > information. > >> > > >> > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the > >> > Respen-A > >> > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin > >> > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and > >> > out > >> > some of these. > >> > > >> > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it > >> > can > >> > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being > >> > depleted if you see unusual irritability. > >> > > >> > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should > >> > be > >> > reduced. > >> > > >> > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off > >> > at > >> > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would > >> > remove > >> > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out of > >> > the > >> > pool. > >> > > >> > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then they > >> > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't > >> > shown > >> > anything yet. > >> > > >> > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement while > >> > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement > >> > gradually > >> > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't > >> > show > >> > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've > >> > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin > >> > to talk > >> > have a VERY dramatic improvement. > >> > > >> > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration > >> > (per > >> > QEEG scans before and after), language. > >> > > >> > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this brings. > >> > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on > >> > all > >> > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me about > >> > any > >> > treatment before. > >> > > >> > Tami > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2010 Report Share Posted April 10, 2010 Wow Limin! Thanks, can MAO-A mutation be tested by yasko's panel? What test is a better deal for Vitamin-K? Thanks again, Sasmita > >> > > >> > While we haven't received our prescription yet I did have quite an > >> > extensive phone consult with the pharmacy. So I wanted to post some of > >> > that > >> > information. > >> > > >> > 1. There are some supplement interactions which may prevent the > >> > Respen-A > >> > from working. Those are curcumin, Fish/Flax oils and high dose vitamin > >> > D. I thought this was important to mention since my son rotates in and > >> > out > >> > some of these. > >> > > >> > 2. They recommend taking 2000 mg of calcium in the morning because it > >> > can > >> > deplete the calcium stores. You will know if the calcium is being > >> > depleted if you see unusual irritability. > >> > > >> > 3. If hyperness is seen then the dose could be too high and it should > >> > be > >> > reduced. > >> > > >> > 4. It is a patch that needs to be put on in the morning and taken off > >> > at > >> > night before bath/shower. If the child goes in the pool, you would > >> > remove > >> > the patch, put it in a baggie, then put it back on after he gets out of > >> > the > >> > pool. > >> > > >> > 5. Positive results should be seen in the first month. If not then they > >> > want to know about it so they can troubleshoot as to why it hasn't > >> > shown > >> > anything yet. > >> > > >> > 6. Children with no language may show a more dramatic improvement while > >> > the children who are less severe may show a more mild improvement > >> > gradually > >> > building. She mentioned that with ANYTHING the less severe kids don't > >> > show > >> > dramatic jumps because they don't have as much gains needed. (I've > >> > noticed this with ). Obviously kids with no language who begin > >> > to talk > >> > have a VERY dramatic improvement. > >> > > >> > 7. The typical gains are increased social skills, brain regeneration > >> > (per > >> > QEEG scans before and after), language. > >> > > >> > We should have ours by Wed. Looking forward to seeing what this brings. > >> > I was very impressed at how thorough the pharmacy was in educating on > >> > all > >> > of these details. It was more than most doctors have ever told me about > >> > any > >> > treatment before. > >> > > >> > Tami > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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